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Blood Boils posted:You can easily tell what's going on here, what do you think is obscured? To be honest, I thought that the Trek redesign is really pretty. The uniforms are sharp, the props are interesting, and the set designs are really sleek. However, the lens flare distracts from being able to see them.
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sigher posted:Joining the Rebels isn't Luke's dream, his only dream was to "Join the academy" which apparently is the Imperial army (and that isn't much of a dream); he just says gently caress it when his only family is killed and Obi-Wan tells him about Jedis and his father was one. As soon as 3P0 even mention the rebellion, before any of the bad stuff happens to him Luke is psyched as poo poo. "You know of the rebellion!? Tell me stories!" He's clearly enthusiastic about it.
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Jan 2, 2020 21:35
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I don’t have a problem with the JJ lens flares but Hideo Kojima was much better about using them in MGSV
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Jan 2, 2020 21:35
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John Wick of Dogs posted:As soon as 3P0 even mention the rebellion, before any of the bad stuff happens to him Luke is psyched as poo poo. "You know of the rebellion!? Tell me stories!" He's clearly enthusiastic about it. Luke was the prototype for the kid in Apt Pupil.
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Jan 2, 2020 21:37
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JJ Abrams just watched a lot of fan service anime and thought the censor light bars were cool
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Jan 2, 2020 21:38
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John Wick of Dogs posted:JJ Abrams just watched a lot of fan service anime and thought the censor light bars were cool lmao
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Jan 2, 2020 21:39
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Halloween Jack posted:I can't help but be curious about when they're going to make media set post-Episode IX, because the way they hosed around with the setting really makes it anything-goes from there on out. Are there any more remnants of the Empire left? Is there a New New Republic? Is Rey gonna start another Jedi temple? Was R2-D2 just piloted by porgs the whole time? From a narrative standpoint it'll be incredibly easy to just ignore the entire sequel trilogy. The status quo post-ROTJ is restored without any meaningful changes, and I doubt anyone involved in the ST is really champing at the bit to get back in front of the screen.
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Jan 2, 2020 21:41
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feedmyleg posted:From a narrative standpoint it'll be incredibly easy to just ignore the entire sequel trilogy. The status quo post-ROTJ is restored without any meaningful changes, and I doubt anyone involved in the ST is really champing at the bit to get back in front of the screen. They were able to get Harrison Ford back twice, so I'm not buying anybody promising they won't be back if Disney decides they really want them. It's arguably even a good negotiating tactic to let everyone know how much you don't want to come back (though obviously if you really do want to come back and/or work with Disney again on other projects it's also dangerous to take it too far). Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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Jan 2, 2020 21:44
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Yeah, but Ford had a solid career and just wanted a new biplane or whatever. Ridley and Boyega are still trying to carve out careers, plus they have the benefit of hindsight looking at Mark and Carrie's careers for the 20 years post-ROTJ. Also, while I'm excited for SMG's thoughts on the movie, I'd imagine there's not going to be enough meat on those bones for any interesting analysis.
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Jan 2, 2020 21:49
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The only newbie anybody is going to have any mawkish nostalgia for to justify a return is actually adam driver, and he's already not ruled out coming back. He and babu frik will one day have the buddy story they deserve
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feedmyleg posted:Yeah, but Ford had a solid career and just wanted a new biplane or whatever. Ridley and Boyega are still trying to carve out careers, plus they have the benefit of hindsight looking at Mark and Carrie's careers for the 20 years post-ROTJ. I don't think it's something they'll have to worry about too much. Luke and Leia are beloved; do people actually care about Rey and Finn?
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feedmyleg posted:Yeah, but Ford had a solid career and just wanted a new biplane or whatever. Ridley and Boyega are still trying to carve out careers, plus they have the benefit of hindsight looking at Mark and Carrie's careers for the 20 years post-ROTJ. Wouldn't that be even more reason why they might be back? No Mods No Masters posted:The only newbie anybody is going to have any mawkish nostalgia for to justify a return is actually adam driver, and he's already not ruled out coming back. He and babu frik will one day have the buddy story they deserve If they don't come back, this seems like the biggest reason to me. They killed the only guy anyone gave a poo poo about. If they move the timeline forward it seems hard to leave Rey out though, even if it's just to pass the torch again.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if in 15 years they just copied this scene with Kylo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbJzr64yiuQ We've seen worse Star Wars ideas in action already, so why not? Sinteres posted:Wouldn't that be even more reason why they might be back? Only if they don't pick up a new franchise or become a beloved character actor within the next 5 years.
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sigher posted:Joining the Rebels isn't Luke's dream, his only dream was to "Join the academy" which apparently is the Imperial army (and that isn't much of a dream); he just says gently caress it when his only family is killed and Obi-Wan tells him about Jedis and his father was one. it literally has "war" in the title
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Jan 2, 2020 21:54
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Reboot and recast everyone and do the Thrawn trilogy.
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Jan 2, 2020 21:55
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Tom Tucker posted:Reboot and recast everyone and do the Thrawn trilogy. That's what they should have done from the start, with some of the dumber poo poo sanded down a bit (no Luuke).
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I don't think it's something they'll have to worry about too much. Luke and Leia are beloved; do people actually care about Rey and Finn? people definitely care about rey and finn, even if more of it comes from a 'jesus they deserved better movies' kind of angle than the OT's protagonists
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Jan 2, 2020 21:58
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Tom Tucker posted:Reboot and recast everyone and do the Thrawn trilogy. At least with Thrawn, people would finally get their Mary Sue
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Tom Tucker posted:Reboot and recast everyone and do the Thrawn trilogy. Edit: And Han and Leia had a son that fell to the Dark Side, right? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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Sinteres posted:That's what they should have done from the start, with some of the dumber poo poo sanded down a bit (no Luuke). Yeah there’s tons of fat you can trim, and the second film would probably need to get punched up a bit with more focus on Leia and the Noghri as the main character drivers and less on underwater casinos, but overall it would be solid. Should have done it this way for sure. I would also accept a Mara Jade / Kardde pre-novel show
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Sequel trilogy could have just been the young adult Jedi academy books and it would have been better.
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Brother Entropy posted:people definitely care about rey and finn, even if more of it comes from a 'jesus they deserved better movies' kind of angle than the OT's protagonists Do they deserve better, though? It's not like they're great characters constrained by weak films, they're just weak characters.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVBYhQ81js I was just thinking that there haven't been many memes and then this pops up in my feed
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do they deserve better, though? It's not like they're great characters constrained by weak films, they're just weak characters. well technically the characters don't deserve anything because they're not real, but the actors who gave good performances with the dire poo poo they were given deserved better
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Halloween Jack posted:I have only passing familiarity with the EU, but it seems like Disney Star Wars mined it for ideas. Thrawn, of course, but wasn't there also a comic series where the Emperor cloned himself and wants to possess Luke or something like that? Yup! There are so many good threads in the novels you don’t even remember until you read them though. Off the top of my head: Leia having actual agency while pregnant and being the key character using diplomacy with the Noghri. Luke separated from the force on Myrkry (sp?) but instead of being a whiny baby he is still a Jedi and acts like it. Game Bel Iblis and the separate rebellion factions (worked well for what little drama it added to rogue 1) Mara and Kardde rescuing Luke from the star destroyer and Thrawn almost outthinking their escape plan The attempt to kidnap the twins So much good stuff is in there.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do they deserve better, though? It's not like they're great characters constrained by weak films, they're just weak characters. I guess it depends on how you define a strong or weak character. I think Rey and Finn's characterization is fairly consistent through the three movies. I felt like I generally had a decent feeling for who they were and the choices they made were generally in line with who we knew them to be. It's not like they were cardboard cutouts, they just ultimately didn't go through much that truly challenged and changed them.
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Brother Entropy posted:people definitely care about rey and finn, even if more of it comes from a 'jesus they deserved better movies' kind of angle than the OT's protagonists This just means "people like the actors" and has nothing to do with the characters.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Sequel trilogy could have just been the young adult Jedi academy books and it would have been better. If you include the retconned part where Corran is there and then he goes off to become Space Batman in a spin-off movie from I, Jedi then 100% yes.
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General Dog posted:I guess it depends on how you define a strong or weak character. quote:they just ultimately didn't go through much that truly challenged and changed them. nailed it
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Went back to the old thread to huff my own farts and see what I posted about Force Awakens, and I think these two from the eve of its release have aged pretty well!General Dog posted:The prequels were all about telling the fans that they really need to grow up, get laid, and set childish things aside, so I imagine the new ones will be, "no, it's still okay to like Star Wars, you're not a man-child, this is all as cool as you remember" General Dog posted:12/15/15-12/22/15 - It's awesome
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Link that thread so we can all get high on our own takes.
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Tom Tucker posted:Yup! There are so many good threads in the novels you don’t even remember until you read them though. Off the top of my head: Jedi being severed from the force is such an excellent characterization hook its a crime they didn't use it. Knowing Disney if they take anything more from the EU its going to be the goddamn stupid Sun Killer. What we really need is that hot pink Star Destroyer.
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feedmyleg posted:Link that thread so we can all get high on our own takes. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3755790
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Someday this unjust status quo will end. The long star wars thread schism will be over, and there will again only be one thread instead of two threads that are effectively just one thread but in an annoying inefficient way
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Some posters have suggested that balance means both threads getting the same number of posts per day, but Lucas has stated multiple times that the mere existence of the non-spoiler thread is an imbalance.
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"I am 4000 years of posts!" "Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father."
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Oh no! gently caress! 
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After re-reading the alleged leak on Reddit, there is nothing about any of those omissions that would have made the plot much better. I mean, it's mostly the same movie, just a lot more of it. Oh, and they didn't let Finn and Poe be gay, and Rose had some recess in between her homework assignment. And assuming 100% of it is true, would any of that added anything to the movie? Not really. Some of the stuff that would have explained some things within the plot (Leia saving Ben, Finn just saying what he needed to tell Rey) that would have been nice, but wouldn't have really fixed the much bigger problems with the pacing or the endless hunt of mcguffins. I preordered the novelization today because I *hope* it makes some of the movie make sense.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Jedi being severed from the force is such an excellent characterization hook its a crime they didn't use it.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:I don’t have a problem with the JJ lens flares but Hideo Kojima was much better about using them in MGSV this! i like lens flares, and mgsv is just like a feast. jj's are ok, one of the least objectionable things about him tbh
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