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John Wick of Dogs posted:JJ Abrams just watched a lot of fan service anime and thought the censor light bars were cool
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:51 |
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Doronin posted:After re-reading the alleged leak on Reddit, there is nothing about any of those omissions that would have made the plot much better. I mean, it's mostly the same movie, just a lot more of it. Oh, and they didn't let Finn and Poe be gay, and Rose had some recess in between her homework assignment. The additional scenes might help the pacing and the extended cut itself, if released, might be better edited than the one we currently have, but no, they would not change the plot or characterization substantively.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:54 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm not sure what you mean by this, but it immediately strikes me as Dungeons & Dragons poo poo that should never even have been let into the EU, like Grey Jedi. Don't you fuckin attack my friend Jolee Bindo
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:57 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm not sure what you mean by this, but it immediately strikes me as Dungeons & Dragons poo poo that should never even have been let into the EU, like Grey Jedi. I meant how a Jedi can/should do their best to be moral ('act like a Jedi') without their magic, however temporarily they might be having that problem.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:57 |
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I'm really curious how Chewie's death fakeout was originally supposed to go, because that 15 second scene dropped in immediately after is too strange to have been the original plan.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:00 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Don't you fuckin attack my friend Jolee Bindo He did it all for the Wookiees! General Dog posted:I'm really curious how Chewie's death fakeout was originally supposed to go, because that 15 second scene dropped in immediately after is too strange to have been the original plan. I don't understand how Rey, Finn, Poe or Threepio all somehow missed a second identical transport taking off 30 feet from them at or around the same time as the lightning one. Especially Rey, who felt Chewie's presence later when she was on the ground and he was in orbit.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:07 |
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just everything about the way the movie organizes and deals with time is insane, not just the cutting but also the way scenes are played. i've never seen anything like it, so i guess that's something
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:08 |
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Keep diggin' that hole.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:10 |
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When I watched it the second time there is some plausibility when it comes to Rey and Finn- you do see two transports when Chewie boards, and then Finn is on the other side of the big rock thing when he hollers to Rey and points to the transport taking off. It means that Finn missed the first transport taking off when he was running down from the ship and around the rock, which seems weird but not impossible. Still colossally cheap in any event.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:11 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Oh no! gently caress! Is this your first movie of 2020?
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:18 |
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Pretty soon they are going to reveal that Palpy is actually Vitiate from SWTOR and there has just always been one immortal super evil Sith Emperor for all time. Also you can argue Grey Jedi have been a thing since the OT since Luke does a poo poo job of acting like any of the other Jedi shown, he wears black, he can be aggressive, he's in touch with his feelings and cares about his friends... Also he directly disobeys his Jedi masters twice and both times he's right!
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:20 |
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Doronin posted:After re-reading the alleged leak on Reddit, there is nothing about any of those omissions that would have made the plot much better. I mean, it's mostly the same movie, just a lot more of it. Oh, and they didn't let Finn and Poe be gay, and Rose had some recess in between her homework assignment. The point isn't that the JJ cut would have been better, the point is that the reason there is no JJ cut is that Disney decided that some ur-audience member didn't want it and tried to chop and change the film to appeal to this theoretical person, of whom they assume(erroneously, it turns out, now that the film is out) there are billions. If you don't like the movie you can't even say JJ Abrams hosed up, because who knows how much of JJ Abrams's work is even on screen!
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:20 |
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I want the original cut of TFA that SMG kept theorizing about a while back
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:22 |
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Somebody must be feeling hot under the collar for people to keep talking this way. I wonder if Kennedy is a little worried after all.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:29 |
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Must have to do with the presumed leak from reddit yesterday, which caused #ReleaseTheJJCut to trend overnight on Twitter. These articles on Wapo and Indiewire popped up this morning.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:32 |
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Eimi posted:Also you can argue Grey Jedi have been a thing since the OT since Luke does a poo poo job of acting like any of the other Jedi shown, Grey Jedi are based on an dumbass understanding of the Force that conforms to the alignment charts from AD&D. It's for nerds with broken brains.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:36 |
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Grey Jedi aren't just centrists? "It's okay to kill some younglings if they're not humanoid."
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:46 |
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Yeah, I don't see where it ever said Jedi were Paladins. They're very Buddhism 101 and the path to the dark-side is all emotions, not just "evil" ones. ESB is very clear on that, what fucks everything up for Luke is the idea that he can change destiny at all. E: I thought it was clear that the Force is like a fantasy version of karma, and once you're born you can't change karma. It's just your fate. So the dark side, in both the OT and PT, tempts people by making them believe that they can change destiny, specifically with visions. And attempts to fight against it are always futile. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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feedmyleg posted:Grey Jedi aren't just centrists? "It's okay to kill some younglings if they're not humanoid." Jedi are already centrists, Grey Jedi are more like "we could agree to use the One Ring just a little, where's the harm?"
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:49 |
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Jedi are ambivalent regarding slavery, so presumably grey jedi would be mildly to moderately in favor of it
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:50 |
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Among the several things I didn't get about the transport scene was the way they just cut to Chewie meekly trudging along with his hands cuffed, shoulders slumped. Like I'm supposed to buy that he just kind of put his hands up and resigned himself to captivity, instead of flipping out and murdering several stormtroopers bare handed until he had to be put down by force and dragged onto the ship. Even if you ignore Solo, it's long established that the guy watched the Empire enslave his entire planet, and was himself a slave for however long, but there he is just being led off in handcuffs without any further struggle. I don't even know why that specifically stood out to me so much, when it's just one bizarre scene among many.
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:56 |
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The movie is completely consistent with the EU material on that one. Chewie, as a centrist between a government ambivalent to slavery and a government that is actively enthusiastic towards slavery, is moderately sympathetic towards the idea of being enslaved
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# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:58 |
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Chewie is all about family *doesn’t come home for 40 years*
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:00 |
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Slavery, but with safewords.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:01 |
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Yeah when Luke tried to put handcuffs on him Chewie almost tore him in half they would have had to drag him Also he's a seasoned warrior, scout, resistance fighter, smuggler, etc., so there's no way he just wanders out of the ship past a bunch of bad guys looking for Rey who, we see, is only about 30-40 feet away.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:06 |
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I'm glad I didn't watch this movie and instead read about it itt.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:07 |
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I just wanted you all to know that Lando spent 20 years living with Squid people.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:07 |
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Why is there no label for his pimp cane?
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:08 |
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will never not get irrationally angry at centrist chewie
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:10 |
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Qui-Gon just straight up abandoning Shmi Skywalker to die in slavery and Anakin never bothering to free her is pretty loving hilarious considering they are the law enforcement of the Old Republic
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:29 |
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How did his winning smile get a caption and not his cane
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:31 |
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JBP posted:I'm glad I didn't watch this movie and instead read about it itt.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:35 |
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Unoriginal Name posted:Qui-Gon just straight up abandoning Shmi Skywalker to die in slavery and Anakin never bothering to free her is pretty loving hilarious considering they are the law enforcement of the Old Republic the galactic civil war was about sith's rights, not slavery
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:36 |
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I hope SMG's final post on the forums is him saying that he's sitting in the theatre about to watch RoS.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:37 |
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Lol at his mouth getting a labelUnoriginal Name posted:Qui-Gon just straight up abandoning Shmi Skywalker to die in slavery and Anakin never bothering to free her is pretty loving hilarious considering they are the law enforcement of the Old Republic Can only assume slavery is not illegal in this setting, OP.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:38 |
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Unoriginal Name posted:Qui-Gon just straight up abandoning Shmi Skywalker to die in slavery and Anakin never bothering to free her is pretty loving hilarious considering they are the law enforcement of the Old Republic How should they have gone about freeing her?
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:38 |
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Yeah, if we lived in fantasy land it would be great to not have the rampant practice of slavery throughout the galaxy, but how are we going to pay for efforts to emancipate these people? - Succ zone chewie
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:38 |
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I mean, could we even afford it after this secret fleet of superlaser star destroyers we built? Plus we're still in debt from that secret clone army we footed the bill for.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:40 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Disney mandate: Season 2 You kid but we know these will happen.
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# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:44 |
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YaketySass posted:How should they have gone about freeing her? Indiscriminate murder, the true Jedi way.
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