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Cygni posted:The AMD Zen2 Mobile embargo is going to lift in a few hours and some of the laptop makers are already posting stuff. Looks like those of you looking for premium AMD laptop designs are going to get their wish. 14 hours with a 61Wh battery could be a pretty big deal, though we'll have to wait and see. The CES Keynote livestream will be broadcast here shortly: https://youtu.be/zUeo7kUzn_8
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AMD gonna copy Intel's Medals/Metals naming crap, the people who brand computer parts for these companies are monsters https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1214286892881108993 e: Here are all the Zen 2 mobile parts: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-introduces-renoir-dali-ryzen-4000-series-mobile-processors 
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Jan 6, 2020 21:53
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taqueso posted:Is that really true about crysis? I thought I was just being silly.
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Jan 6, 2020 21:57
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eames posted:14 hours with a 61Wh battery could be a pretty big deal, though we'll have to wait and see. TBQH, I'm just happy that something(s) might finally be coming along to trade punches with the XPS 13 in the "solid, thin laptop with awesome battery life" department -- regardless of who makes the processor. That said, if AMD has finally managed to start making good mobile CPUs, that would be awesome as well. Fingers crossed!
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Jan 6, 2020 22:48
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Cygni posted:AMD gonna copy Intel's Medals/Metals naming crap, the people who brand computer parts for these companies are monsters Based on my past experience with Intel's current Iris Pro graphics, I immediately gravitate towards the eight GPU cores of whatever for the improved QoL, but goddamn, who the gently caress is gonna use 16 threads in a >15W laptop? These configurations highly lead me to believe poo poo's still monolithic again, or we'd get some more sensible combinations that won't burn out a laptop battery in no time flat.
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Jan 6, 2020 22:59
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Keynote started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUeo7kUzn_8
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Jan 6, 2020 23:03
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taqueso posted:Is that really true about crysis? I thought I was just being silly. The last time I tried the original Crysis, the bottleneck was CPU. It's an old rear end DX10 that slams 1 core to the moon, so you really need the fastest single core you can possibly get. Your GPU will not be working hard on Crysis 1.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Based on my past experience with Intel's current Iris Pro graphics, I immediately gravitate towards the eight GPU cores of whatever for the improved QoL, but goddamn, who the gently caress is gonna use 16 threads in a >15W laptop? CAD virtual machine is what I would use it for.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:06
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I'm more excited for the lower end parts because they'll likely be dirt cheap while still offering decent performance. I personally don't need one of these but AMD devices selling for 30-40% less than the Intel equivalent is going to raise some eyebrows. The Lenovo E495 was on sale for ~400€ during black friday.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:12
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SwissArmyDruid posted:These configurations highly lead me to believe poo poo's still monolithic again, or we'd get some more sensible combinations that won't burn out a laptop battery in no time flat. It is monolithic. Also, it is a smaller GPU config at the top end than the Zen+ skus, so the GPU performance will be interesting.
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 That's a tiny loving chip. edit: It's loving Vega again. "59% improved performance" MY rear end. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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Jan 6, 2020 23:12
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Claiming 59% increase in Vega core performance vs last gen mobile chips? That's wild if even close to true.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:15
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NewFatMike posted:Claiming 59% increase in Vega core performance vs last gen mobile chips? That's wild if even close to true. They are gonna have higher clocks and way more memory bandwidth, but AMD and Intel love to make dumb rear end performance claims in presentations so we will see.
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AMD has been getting pretty close to their PR numbers in recent history iirc
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Cygni posted:They are gonna have higher clocks and way more memory bandwidth, but AMD and Intel love to make dumb rear end performance claims in presentations so we will see. Oh yeah, I've got a flight of shakers of salt from all over the world ready. But honestly, even half of that (25%) would be incredible. E: lol, another Freesync rebrand. At least it's... Parsable.
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taqueso posted:AMD has been getting pretty close to their PR numbers in recent history iirc They just did that comically trash PCIe 4.0 demo with the Navi launch
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taqueso posted:AMD has been getting pretty close to their PR numbers in recent history iirc https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-4700u-8-core-renoir-mobile-cpu-spotted Scroll down to see some direct comparisons to Intel parts, the all the names/threadcounts/clockspeeds match so it looks like the leak was real.
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Is WoW esports in TYOOL 2020?
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NewFatMike posted:Claiming 59% increase in Vega core performance vs last gen mobile chips? That's wild if even close to true. LPDDR4 is a hell of a drug. Also, FreeSync Premium with guaranteed LFC and I guess FreeSync 2 is now rebranded as FreeSync Pro with LFC+HDR? Boy, that would have been great two years ago. Although I guess they didn't say anything about a QC process to avoid flickering...
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Cygni posted:They just did that comically trash PCIe 4.0 demo with the Navi launch What did they do for the demo? Show bandwidth transfer values with their gpu or something?
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The guy in charge of Freesync flicker is the webcast cameraman who plans on killing us all eyes first by moire exposure.
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Speaking of bad misleading graphs, they just compared the 9700k to the 4800H using integrated graphics in gaming without actually saying that. Don't trust presentations!!!priznat posted:What did they do for the demo? Show bandwidth transfer values with their gpu or something? I'll have to go find it, but it was basically a misleading "test" implying that 4.0 was gonna make your graphics card a million percent faster. It was the same dude that always does their misleading graphs, comically. GN and a bunch of other people immediately got on their rear end about it. Cygni fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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The posters on r/amd are so thirsty for a 2080ti-killer that AMD won't be giving them (at least not this generation).
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No word on that 4900H that was leaked via an Asus slide by a Youtuber earlier today. Either they changed the naming or its a higher TDP part (~65W?) that they don't want that associated with this keynote.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:36
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HYBRID CROSSFIRE IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
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priznat posted:What did they do for the demo? Show bandwidth transfer values with their gpu or something? Yeah, it wasn't misleading information per se as much as just totally irrelevant information.
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Oh god, the madwoman. 3990X, 64c/128t, 4.3GHz boost, 288 MB of cache, $3990 price tag.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:45
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LOL the 3990WX is $3990.
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E: not the GPU thread.
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how long has scumbag steve been president of RED? 
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Lungboy posted:$279 for the 5600xt could be good if the specs turn into decent performance. FWIW the author of tomshw.de is usually pretty well informed thinks that AMD will only allow $279 cards to be reviewed on launch date and fancier, more expensive factory oc cards will be under NDA until 22nd. Paul MaudDib posted:how did scumbag steve end up as president of RED? and how do they colorgrade with 30 Watts of RGB LEDs shining onto their monitors through the case window
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RDNA2 and Zen3 need to show up at Computex or I feel like they'd have been pushed to 2021.
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eames posted:FWIW the author of tomshw.de is usually pretty well informed thinks that AMD will only allow $279 cards to be reviewed on launch date and fancier, more expensive factory oc cards will be under NDA until 22nd. It wouldn't surprise me. Performance will have to be impressive at that price to make it better value than a 1660 super at significantly cheaper or just stumping up the extra cash for a 5700.
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kinda figured they'd talk about the AM4 socketed variants of the new APUs if nothing else, are those still on the way soon or waiting for the other 4000 series processors later this year? maybe a little tease of RDNA2 or Zen3 too seemed like an abrupt end, "alright thanks RED and that's it guys later"
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Oh god, the madwoman. 3990X, 64c/128t, 4.3GHz boost, 288 MB of cache, $3990 price tag. Hell of a part for the price, man. Xeon W-3175X is more expensive once you get a motherboard, and will undoubtedly get destroyed in basically all tasks. Also between cooling that thing and a few GPUs for compute, finally those folks that splurge for double 360 rads in their custom loops will get to really use em. Intel's conference is in an hour, pretty likely we get the Comet Lake-S desktop CPU announcement... wonder if they got anything else worth talkin about.
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NewFatMike posted:CAD virtual machine is what I would use it for. ...what...the gently caress!?
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I wonder if these mobile processors would make Apple take notice. They'd probably cry about Thunderbolt, though. I really do think we're reaching the point where they should consider MacBook product segmentation and make Thunderbolt a "Pro" thing compared to Air etc.
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Crunchy Black posted:...what...the gently caress!? I run most of my 3D modeling software under a VM. All my 2D stuff works better under Linux, but it really comes down to "If my next update completely befucks my Solidworks install, won't it be nicer to just revert to a snapshot instead of reinstall everything? Again?" 1-2 softwares are fine to reinstall when things go stupid, but I need a bunch for freelancing. Most of them are single threaded, so going to a 4C/8T VM (6C/12T host) had no real performance loss. Them's billable hours and the VMware Workstation license paid for itself pretty quickly.
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Paul MaudDib posted:kinda figured they'd talk about the AM4 socketed variants of the new APUs if nothing else, are those still on the way soon or waiting for the other 4000 series processors later this year? With Zen3, I get it. They're probably having record sales and the last thing they want to do is Osborne themselves - people are already thirsty asf about Zen3. Zen3 doesn't need the demo hype Zen2 got, IMHO, and they can talk about it when it's in a more complete state. I...I have no idea why they didn't demo RDNA2 unless it's not ready, or for the same reason as Zen3, their sales of the RX 5000 series are actually really good based on internal numbers and the last thing they want to do is cutoff that cashflow too early.
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