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Mister Speaker posted:This is some old man rambling bullshit, but the Epstein bit at the end was ice cold. My first reaction was everyone not laughing was probably in Epstein's little black book.
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Mister Speaker posted:This is some old man rambling bullshit, but the Epstein bit at the end was ice cold. I'm reminded of that Tom Lehrer bit: "I particularly remember a heartwarming novel of his about a young necrophiliac who finally achieved his boyhood ambition by becoming coroner." *hisses and ahems from the audience, one or two laughs* "...The rest of you can look it up when you get home."
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IUG posted:J.K. Rolland, the Harry Potter author. i said jkr
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DandyLion posted:My first reaction was everyone not laughing was probably in Epstein's little black book. Trump probably laughed at Ricky taking them hollywood libs down a peg or two despite probably having a whole page in that book to himself.
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Tired: Transgender Exclusionary Radical Feminist Wired: Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobe
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Nah, it's a commentary on the modern economy and stuff like modern workers getting less time off than a medieval peasant. Here in 2020 your only options are TERF and Serf.
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Data Graham posted:I'm reminded of that Tom Lehrer bit: Can you explain this? I don’t get it.
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AFewBricksShy posted:Can you explain this? I don’t get it. Look it up. You'll be happy with what you find.
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ruddiger posted:Trump probably laughed at Ricky taking them hollywood libs down a peg or two despite probably having a whole page in that book to himself. Has anyone ever seen Trump laugh? I just assumed as broken a human being as he was he was pathologically incapable.
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AFewBricksShy posted:Can you explain this? I don’t get it. ultrafilter posted:Look it up. You'll be happy with what you find. I looked the song up but I’m trying to figure out what the quoted line has to do with Gervais. I’m assuming the “look it up” was back before the internet most people didn’t know what a necrophiliac was?
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Mister Speaker posted:This is some old man rambling bullshit, but the Epstein bit at the end was ice cold. Also the joke that went something like "Next up is Sandra Bullock of Bird Box, a movie where you all pretend that you can't see anything...like all of you who worked with Harvey Weinstein." Ricky Gervais is a stupid gently caress who should never be allowed to have a comedy special again, but props for that one.
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AFewBricksShy posted:I looked the song up but I’m trying to figure out what the quoted line has to do with Gervais. I’m assuming the “look it up” was back before the internet most people didn’t know what a necrophiliac was? It reminded me of it because it’s the same kind of “anticipate and play off the audience’s lukewarm reaction” stunt, which the post I quoted was talking about, or so I thought Also yeah humor in 1957 was .. a little different
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AFewBricksShy posted:I looked the song up but I’m trying to figure out what the quoted line has to do with Gervais. I’m assuming the “look it up” was back before the internet most people didn’t know what a necrophiliac was? Ah, I was reading it as "look up the book when you get home" which was even less funny.
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The followup line was implying that the only reason people weren’t laughing was that they’re stupid When in fact they were just being “tasteful” He was taking the piss out of stuffed shirts
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Ah, I was reading it as "look up the book when you get home" which was even less funny. It is a book.
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Jan 7, 2020 03:47
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Paladinus posted:It is a book. What, the dictionary?
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Paladinus posted:It is a book. Thats just a little bit of cockney humor. He means to imply the joke is overcooked.
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Roblo posted:That...just sounds like an old man rambling. I mean yeah sure delivery or whatever but he just sounds like a bitter old rear end in a top hat. Which is of course what he is. Tbf, entertainers who are bitter old assholes are less likely to be pedophiles than the ones who are extremely excited about working in Hollywood
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ruddiger posted:Trump probably laughed at Ricky taking them hollywood libs down a peg or two despite probably having a whole page in that book to himself. Trump laughs at people making fun of his own sons
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Paladinus posted:It is a book. Gonna give that one a respectful golf clap for a perfectly executed 
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MizPiz posted:Trump laughs at people making fun of his own sons The orange man wearing adult diapers from television has poor self control you say?
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Ok, can someone explain, fully, the necro joke, please ?
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The Bananana posted:Ok, can someone explain, fully, the necro joke, please ? Coroners handle dead people. He got to gently caress the bodies.
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TK-42-1 posted:Coroners handle dead people. He got to gently caress the bodies. Which is incredibly unprofessional. You're supposed to wait until you're off the clock to crack open a cold one
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The Bananana posted:Ok, can someone explain, fully, the necro joke, please ? Beautiful post/avatar txt combo.
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The Moon Monster posted:Why is TERFism so big in the UK anyway? Is it just that the vague religious/moral/"it ain't right" objections you see in the US don't fly there so they needed to innovate some other line of attack? I've also heard - and it's not an unreasonable take - that there's a long-rear end tradition in British comedy of 'blokes in dresses', from variety theater and Drag through Monty Python and even up more recent shows like Little Britain or League of Gentlemen. So for some people, they see someone cross-dressing and deep-seated in their minds, it's an act, or a joke, or something. Also, there's an awful lot of TERFs who are just arseholes.
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Wolfechu posted:I've also heard - and it's not an unreasonable take - that there's a long-rear end tradition in British comedy of 'blokes in dresses', from variety theater and Drag through Monty Python and even up more recent shows like Little Britain or League of Gentlemen. So for some people, they see someone cross-dressing and deep-seated in their minds, it's an act, or a joke, or something. 
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Yeah, but when Bugs does it, it's kinda hot. Or so I'm told.
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Wolfechu posted:I've also heard - and it's not an unreasonable take - that there's a long-rear end tradition in British comedy of 'blokes in dresses', from variety theater and Drag through Monty Python and even up more recent shows like Little Britain or League of Gentlemen. So for some people, they see someone cross-dressing and deep-seated in their minds, it's an act, or a joke, or something. Just gonna be pedantic for a sec to point out that it's not cross dressing if a trans person dresses according to their identity
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Wolfechu posted:I've also heard - and it's not an unreasonable take - that there's a long-rear end tradition in British comedy of 'blokes in dresses', from variety theater and Drag through Monty Python and even up more recent shows like Little Britain or League of Gentlemen. So for some people, they see someone cross-dressing and deep-seated in their minds, it's an act, or a joke, or something. There's also the part where the usual newspapers have been on a Trans-phobic crusade for ages now. I think that's one of the main reason why regular people who otherwise wouldn't give a poo poo either way how people decide to present become rabid hate machines.
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The Moon Monster posted:Why is TERFism so big in the UK anyway? Is it just that the vague religious/moral/"it ain't right" objections you see in the US don't fly there so they needed to innovate some other line of attack? Tbh, that's a better explanation than any of the others I've seen
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Wolfechu posted:Yeah, but when Bugs does it, it's kinda hot. 
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The MUMPSorceress posted:Just gonna be pedantic for a sec to point out that it's not cross dressing if a trans person dresses according to their identity No, you're right, although in the comedic stuff they're associating with the trans movement, it's usually cross dressing. I doubt any of Monty Python are actually trans, and given Gilliam and Cleese being terrible of late, I think we'd be lucky if any of them were even progressive.
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Wolfechu posted:No, you're right, although in the comedic stuff they're associating with the trans movement, it's usually cross dressing. I doubt any of Monty Python are actually trans, and given Gilliam and Cleese being terrible of late, I think we'd be lucky if any of them were even progressive. Which is silly because I doubt british comedic cross-dressing has anything at all to do with trans. It's fun to dress up an act silly. It's more a send up of gender norms than any kind of meanspirted mockery of women. If blokes were free to wear dresses and make up and get their hair did whenever they felt like it, then there would be nothing funny about a bloke in a dress. Gender norms suck.
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The MUMPSorceress posted:Just gonna be pedantic for a sec to point out that it's not cross dressing if a trans person dresses according to their identity It's brutal how there is the unspoken assumption that a trans person is intentionally or unintentionally involved in some sort of deception when in reality they're probably just trying to get through their loving day like the rest of us.
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spongepuppy posted:It's brutal how there is the unspoken assumption that a trans person is intentionally or unintentionally involved in some sort of deception when in reality they're probably just trying to get through their loving day like the rest of us. Exactly. Christ, someone post a funny picture; I'm all tapped out.
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snergle posted:are there even any women terfs besides jkr on mumsnet or is it all men. because every new terf i see is a dude. A lot of old-fashioned misogynists are jumping on the terf bandwagon because it lets them push gender-essentialism.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Which is silly because I doubt british comedic cross-dressing has anything at all to do with trans. It's fun to dress up an act silly. It's more a send up of gender norms than any kind of meanspirted mockery of women. If blokes were free to wear dresses and make up and get their hair did whenever they felt like it, then there would be nothing funny about a bloke in a dress. Gender norms suck. Britain has/had a number of transvestite comedians in the 80s/90s (Eddie Izzard, Paul o'grady etc) and it wouldn't surprise me if the boomer generation just can't be bothered to learn the difference between transvestite and transexual and so assume they're the same thing
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