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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

K. Waste posted:

Someone has to have overlaid it at the part where Gabriel Byrne lights himself on fire by now, right?

I think a big part of the problem re: Aster's filmography is that we as audiences are so anesthetized to seeing movies about the domestic problems of obscenely well-off people and then being told by film critics that this is some profound commentary on grief or the human condition or whatever that folks literally don't know how to suss out when a filmmaker is just taking those things to its most absurdly grotesque extreme, and then just directing it well.

Like, Midsommar, for instance, is far more authentically concerned with grief than Hereditary, which literally predicates the entire 'relatable' dysfunction of this family on a stoned teenager accidentally decapitating his sister. This is like Dewey Cox but played straight.

Very well said, lol. "Wrong kid died!"

Majkol posted:

The bolded part is a little dishonest, it's pretty clear Toni Collette's mother was a major abusive piece of poo poo and it hosed up the family real good. It's even in the title.

It's also important to note that Toni Collette herself is pretty clearly an abuser.

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Alita was fine and I enjoyed watching it, but I do not understand the extremely fervent following it has here.

The extremely blatant “see you in the sequel!” ending also felt like a giant middle finger to the audience for no reason. It could have easily had a satisfying conclusion if they hadn’t been so concerned with setting up a franchise that probably won’t even happen now.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1215007789547999235

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
:rip: entertainment industry

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

So basically exactly what they've always been doing except they've automated some of it by offloading it onto an algorithm instead of having some guy with a spreadsheet crunching the numbers by hand, truly this is the death of cinema.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Who are the AI wizards who came up with this?!?

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

This is just a faster version to do what they were already doing before. A shame because I'd really like to see them invent a movie or two based purely on what an algorithm suggests. Maybe a horror thriller starring Kathy Bates, Keanu Reeves and Quvenzhané Wallis is really what the audiences wanted all along.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

2021 and Warner Brothers keeps greenlighting films headed exclusively by Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robert Patrick, and Brent Spiner.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Sleeveless posted:

So basically exactly what they've always been doing except they've automated some of it by offloading it onto an algorithm instead of having some guy with a spreadsheet crunching the numbers by hand, truly this is the death of cinema.

Meaning said guys are going to be fired. If anything it's a net positive.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
WB AI: “More marvel movies!!!”

“I don’t think we have the rights to-“

WB AI: “MORE. MARVEL. MOVIES.”

ChickenMedium
Sep 2, 2001
Forum Veteran And Professor Emeritus of Condiment Studies

Sleeveless posted:

So basically exactly what they've always been doing except they've automated some of it by offloading it onto an algorithm instead of having some guy with a spreadsheet crunching the numbers by hand, truly this is the death of cinema.

It just means they can be as racist as they want to be and then say it's not racist because an AI made the decision.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Sleeveless posted:

I've never seen anybody articulate why Alita owns other than the fact that there's a giant hammer in it, people just emerge the moment you criticize it to repeat that it owns as if its quality is entirely self-evident.

It was a fun film that was fun to watch.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

ChickenMedium posted:

It just means they can be as racist as they want to be and then say it's not racist because an AI made the decision.

Finally we will get the Julia Roberts Harriet Tubman biopic as promised!

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

ChickenMedium posted:

It just means they can be as racist as they want to be and then say it's not racist because an AI made the decision.

"Okay, so the first suggestion is...."
*grabs piece of paper rolling out of a printer*
"A Harriet Tubman movie starring Julia Roberts."

I am mildly annoyed I got e;f,b to this

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Us humans gotta stick together

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Mierenneuker posted:

"Okay, so the first suggestion is...."

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Maxwell Lord posted:

Alita also benefits a lot from Rosa Salazar in the lead role; she's very lively and enthusiastic and charming. There's a strong contrast between her loving her life and wanting to experience things and the cynical world around her. It's a pretty strong cast overall but she carries it. The film has some structural issues owing to it being a fairly faithful adaptation of a much longer manga, it lacks a really strong climax, but Alita's charm and the cool worldbuilding make up for it.

Christopher Waltz didn't hurt either but yeah. It's a sincere, fun action scifi with a cool aesthetic, some great performances and a decent amount of cheese.

Also the hammer owns.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

FreudianSlippers posted:

Tragedy is comedy.

Ari Aster is obviously heavily influenced by Roy Andersson who specialises in scenes like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC9FsakgH9Y

Looks like I gotta check this guy out

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Vegetable posted:

This is just a faster version to do what they were already doing before. A shame because I'd really like to see them invent a movie or two based purely on what an algorithm suggests. Maybe a horror thriller starring Kathy Bates, Keanu Reeves and Quvenzhané Wallis is really what the audiences wanted all along.

lol as if an AI would ever write a woman- or minority-led film

Srice
Sep 11, 2011


I think this is the exact sort of thing that would let something like Cats get greenlit so hell, let's see what this baby does.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P


How far does this get along before Warner Bros realizes they've stopped greenlighting all films with female leads and actors of color?

AI systems are not objective! They replicate existing biases at a mass scale!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
If it’s anything like the Microsoft teen girl tweetin we’ll get movies about creepy girls who say really racist poo poo

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I can't wait for Detectives Batman and Pikachu working together at Hogwarts.

Spoiler alert: Harley's a Ravenclaw

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Beachcomber posted:

I can't wait for Detectives Batman and Pikachu working together at Hogwarts.

Spoiler alert: Harley's a Ravenclaw

*detective Spider-Man and boss babe Elsa

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
AI predicts Batman vs the Marvel Universe League is a hit!

Story and cinematography by Snyder. Directed by Villeneuve

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
All these jokes are so predictable they could have been written by an AI.

Nroo
Dec 31, 2007


Wasn't there a Netflix miniseries actually written by an algorithm or did I just imagine that

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.




Wonder Woman murders the DC universe

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

pospysyl posted:

When a marketable star dies before or during movie production, the current vogue is to use a CGI replacement, but I think we should go back to the practical effect of hiring people who look like the dead actor and pretending they're the same actor but with a slightly different last name.

The modern version of this is what they did for Fast & Furious. Film the guy's brother using angles and edits that hide or draw attention away from his face but morph the brother's face into the dead actor's using CG where necessary.

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

https://twitter.com/ADACTIVITY/status/1215017926455103488

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

We now know who greenlightninged 2020. Close this thread.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Sleeveless posted:

All these jokes are so predictable they could have been written by an AI.

And your posting could be predicted by your AV

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Nroo posted:

Wasn't there a Netflix miniseries actually written by an algorithm or did I just imagine that
They let an AI cut a trailer of Ex Machina, I think.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Sleeveless posted:

All these jokes are so predictable they could have been written by an AI.

Turn your monitor on

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Terrorist Fistbump posted:

Turn your monitor on

No, that might mean he'll post more, better he keep it turned off

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sleeveless posted:

I've never seen anybody articulate why Alita owns other than the fact that there's a giant hammer in it, people just emerge the moment you criticize it to repeat that it owns as if its quality is entirely self-evident.

It felt like an old-school blockbuster, the kind that's trying to be an actual movie with coherent themes and characters and not just a bunch of Big CGI Set Pieces with jokey padding in between. It's also an incredibly faithful and respectful adaptation of one of my favorite comics, from any country, of all time.

On top of that, Rosa Salazar's perfornance is genuinely incredible and endearing as all hell, and rather than getting lost under the CGI the CGI actively benefits it. Waltz and Ali do really fantastic work too, even if Salazar overshadows them.

Also, I appreciate it having the sheer granite balls to brutally kill the male love interest not once, not twice, but three goddamn times.

Hammer helps, yes, but it's a rad loving movie even without considering the hammer.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Also, I appreciate it having the sheer granite balls to
Not just that, but also to commit to the brutality of their Heavenside Layer bit by going "oh, that flawed but sympathetic character with a link to the Dr? yeah she's in a bunch of jars here like Cain from Robocop 2, k have fun going up girl.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

Nroo posted:

Wasn't there a Netflix miniseries actually written by an algorithm or did I just imagine that

When Cary Fukunaga made Maniac, he ran his script through the Netflix algorithm and used that to make changes; he said that it could tell him which exact words would change the number of viewers the show would retain.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

It felt like an old-school blockbuster, the kind that's trying to be an actual movie with coherent themes and characters and not just a bunch of Big CGI Set Pieces with jokey padding in between. It's also an incredibly faithful and respectful adaptation of one of my favorite comics, from any country, of all time.

On top of that, Rosa Salazar's perfornance is genuinely incredible and endearing as all hell, and rather than getting lost under the CGI the CGI actively benefits it. Waltz and Ali do really fantastic work too, even if Salazar overshadows them.

Also, I appreciate it having the sheer granite balls to brutally kill the male love interest not once, not twice, but three goddamn times.

Hammer helps, yes, but it's a rad loving movie even without considering the hammer.

FilthyImp posted:

Not just that, but also to commit to the brutality of their Heavenside Layer bit by going "oh, that flawed but sympathetic character with a link to the Dr? yeah she's in a bunch of jars here like Cain from Robocop 2, k have fun going up girl.

But big eyes though! Herb-a-derb!

I hated the trailer because of the eyes, didn't notice them at all in the actual film.

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Captain Jesus
Feb 26, 2009

What's wrong with you? You don't even have your beer goggles on!!
I enjoyed the body horror elements in Alita. Always fun to see them in a family film.

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