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lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Here To Help posted:

IMO:

Please unban all persons who were punished for speaking up on behalf of vulnerable and targeted people. MPB, BG2, SMG, CC etc. A list could be provided if needed. I know this might feel like a lot to ask & some of them may have technically broke rules but they were clearly fighting for the right thing!

Make C-spam a top level forum with its own mods + IK's and let C-spam decide who we want them to be.

Any persons who were involved in punishing unfairly folks from C-spam should admit fault if they have not already. Any mods/admins involved in the PPJ mission should explain themselves and their knowledge of it and apologize if they have not already.

This is a good time to try for a fresh start. Think about adding some new mods who can communicate with the user base. Clamping down harder and harder has gotten us to where we are now - why not try a more understanding approach? I want to go back to lurking the bernie thread and the succ zone!

Thanks.

this. a thousand times this. PPJ, who was targeting CSPAM users for weeks, who was punishing leftists with the full support of the other mods, was a loving NAZI. the mods closed ranks around him. protected him ceaselessly. gassed... how many threads? permabanned how many users who stood up and demanded action or transparency?

unbanning all of those posters is a BASIC PREREQUISITE for anyone to trust you mods again. this is not complicated!

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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Posting on page 88.

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747

NO LISTEN TO ME posted:

If ghosts are real then I have some very bad news for nazis about the 17 million ghosts that probably really loving hate them waiting on the other side.
If ghosts are real the Nazis' occult researches surely showed how to bind them to some sort of crystal

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Phi230 posted:

if a knight was struck by lightning they'd die, idiot

House Dondarrion would beg to differ.

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
The whole reason knights wear armor is to channel sorcerous lightning through to the ground, but it's okay if you spent your time learning more worthwhile things than milhist

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Oh, and free Dickeye and everyone else banned/permabanned/given huge probations for no reason. It really seems like there was a lot of overkill going on in punishing C-SPAM posters.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Fly Molo posted:

this. a thousand times this. PPJ, who was targeting CSPAM users for weeks, who was punishing leftists with the full support of the other mods, was a loving NAZI. the mods closed ranks around him. protected him ceaselessly. gassed... how many threads? permabanned how many users who stood up and demanded action or transparency?

unbanning all of those posters is a BASIC PREREQUISITE for anyone to trust you mods again. this is not complicated!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

comedyblissoption posted:

lol @ the very real possibility that the people giving lowtax targets were from ppj's nazi discord community

it's really is such an odd coincidence that the moderators kept looking on CSPAM as a sort of ungovernable community of shitposters that can't possibly ever be tamed and shouldn't be listened to because they're so petulant

I mean, where would they ever get that impression?

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!
Close cspam.
Make every forum a sub of pet island
Post phone numbers for all admins for 24/7 support.

NO LISTEN TO ME
Jan 3, 2009

「プリスティンビート」
「Pristine Beat」
Stole my mom's debit card to call the SA tip hotline to get hints on what posts to make

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Let's not forget that this nonsense is ongoing. PPJ is simply the only person involved to be outed publicly. There are currently an unknown number of people (including members of the mod team) continuing to participate in this farcical operation and essentially doxing members of these forums based on nothing more than the word of these unaccountable and (as we have seen thus far) untrustworthy "secret fake nazis".

I would like to know what is contained in the "gigabytes" of data the mods have admittedly gathered from these sources. I think all of that information should be made public so we can decide for ourselves about the righteousness and legitimacy of this operation.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Prince Myshkin posted:

Posting on page 88.

Finally, our infliltration of fascist discords is complete

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
it was gigabytes but a solid 90% of the file size was the sickest brazilian gore vids and interracial porn

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Funky See Funky Do posted:

Let's not forget that this nonsense is ongoing. PPJ is simply the only person involved to be outed publicly. There are currently an unknown number of people (including members of the mod team) continuing to participate in this farcical operation and essentially doxing members of these forums based on nothing more than the word of these unaccountable and (as we have seen thus far) untrustworthy "secret fake nazis".

I would like to know what is contained in the "gigabytes" of data the mods have admittedly gathered from these sources. I think all of that information should be made public so we can decide for ourselves about the righteousness and legitimacy of this operation.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

release the snyder cut

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Homeless Friend posted:

it was gigabytes but a solid 90% of the file size was the sickest brazilian gore vids and interracial porn

eeernt errrrt kssssshhhh hrrrrsssshh khhhhhh

oh loving sweet my dank doner memes are in the downpipe so long as mom doesnt try to call anyone

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


The gigabytes of data part is easy to believe as big rear end resolution screenshots and audio recordings can pass 1GB easily. Nothing weird about that part, especially given the competence of PPJ in other areas, it doesn't scream conspiracy ya goofs.

Probably just more screenshots of PPJ yucking it up with the Nazis TBH.

Dingus Edit: lol beaten by a joke, but yeah it is easy to get GBs of data.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


oh my god, look at all this horrible poo poo. I've screenshotted all of it for posterity, and it is truly sickening to behold. *scrolls back to top*

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
They'd be carefully cropped screenshots that don't show PPJ interacting with them at all, like the ones he posted in his Justification Thread

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

John Charity Spring posted:

They'd be carefully cropped screenshots that don't show PPJ interacting with them at all, like the ones he posted in his Justification Thread

Shitloads of effort put into the dumbest possible poo poo is definitely the most likely answer to pretty much anything in this incredibly stupid saga

TowerofOil
May 22, 2007

You don't need a doctor, I'm a christian scientist.

Bread Liar

John Charity Spring posted:

They'd be carefully cropped screenshots that don't show PPJ interacting with them at all, like the ones he posted in his Justification Thread

PPJ desperately deleting discord posts like a camp guard throwing files of paperwork in the fire

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
anyone with the stones to continue peddling the fantasy that he was actually providing information about nazis to the moderation team is required to explain how in the very nazi discord screenshots ppj himself posted, capri sun tzu is present, as recently as two weeks ago. posting on the forums under the same name and not banned until he himself revenge outed ppj during the meltdown as having posted more in the nazi discord than anywhere else including sa. seems like a very serious plan to protect the forums from nazi invasions might have involved banning the people known to you to be nazis and posting on the forums no?

SpiritualDeath
Jul 2, 2009

shaping your brain like pottery
Oh sweet I'm never able to find active threads when things like this go down so truly a miracle has occurred today

I'd like to add my meager voice to the call to free Benghazi 2, crazy cloud, lastgirl, etc. and to make C-SPAM a top-level forum. also rest in piss ppj

SpiritualDeath fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jan 9, 2020

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



:hmbol:

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Ayn Randi posted:

anyone with the stones to continue peddling the fantasy that he was actually providing information about nazis to the moderation team is required to explain how in the very nazi discord screenshots ppj himself posted, capri sun tzu is present, as recently as two weeks ago. posting on the forums under the same name and not banned until he himself revenge outed ppj during the meltdown as having posted more in the nazi discord than anywhere else including sa. seems like a very serious plan to protect the forums from nazi invasions might have involved banning the people known to you to be nazis and posting on the forums no?

It's in the gigabytes of data collected from Operation Overmod, we just need to trawl through them

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Ayn Randi posted:

anyone with the stones to continue peddling the fantasy that he was actually providing information about nazis to the moderation team is required to explain how in the very nazi discord screenshots ppj himself posted, capri sun tzu is present, as recently as two weeks ago. posting on the forums under the same name and not banned until he himself revenge outed ppj during the meltdown as having posted more in the nazi discord than anywhere else including sa. seems like a very serious plan to protect the forums from nazi invasions might have involved banning the people known to you to be nazis and posting on the forums no?

no you see he only posted constantly on the nazi discord and let nazis roam free to ~keep his cover~
*turns out the nazis knew what he was doing all along*
ah, well, nevertheless

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Ayn Randi posted:

anyone with the stones to continue peddling the fantasy that he was actually providing information about nazis to the moderation team is required to explain how in the very nazi discord screenshots ppj himself posted, capri sun tzu is present, as recently as two weeks ago. posting on the forums under the same name and not banned until he himself revenge outed ppj during the meltdown as having posted more in the nazi discord than anywhere else including sa. seems like a very serious plan to protect the forums from nazi invasions might have involved banning the people known to you to be nazis and posting on the forums no?

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

NO LISTEN TO ME posted:

Stole my mom's debit card to call the SA tip hotline to get hints on what posts to make

199.99 a minute to post TRUMP

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Ayn Randi posted:

anyone with the stones to continue peddling the fantasy that he was actually providing information about nazis to the moderation team is required to explain how in the very nazi discord screenshots ppj himself posted, capri sun tzu is present, as recently as two weeks ago. posting on the forums under the same name and not banned until he himself revenge outed ppj during the meltdown as having posted more in the nazi discord than anywhere else including sa. seems like a very serious plan to protect the forums from nazi invasions might have involved banning the people known to you to be nazis and posting on the forums no?

now now, that might have blown the cover of spymaster Solo Skate Jones

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

I'm happy for ppj. Went out in a blaze of glory and got at least one of his threads goldmined

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


exmarx posted:

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

Party Plane Jones doing his Wilhelm Canaris bit, waiting for the right info to pass along: drat. Those are some cool gore vids.

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer

exmarx posted:

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

ah, permaban evading nazis are fine if they aren't currently doing doxxing, good carry on

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

exmarx posted:

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

When cops want to prevent future bank robberies they go shoot up a bunch of banks. I knew Point Break was a documentary.


I scream as i throw probations and bans at C-spam instead of the nazis

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


*passes ammo to the executioner squad* gently caress. I hope nobody of them got doxxed

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Ayn Randi posted:

ah, permaban evading nazis are fine if they aren't currently doing doxxing, good carry on

i didn't say it was a good idea. but probably a good idea to know what you're complaining about.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

eric ciaramella posted:

wampalord has been an incredibly good ik in these trying times :tipshat: :stilldontknowwhatthesalutesmilieis:

:patriot:

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer

exmarx posted:

i didn't say it was a good idea. but probably a good idea to know what you're complaining about.

im pretty sure what im complaining about thanks, namely the nazi mod sheltering his nazi friends while persecuting cspam posters and other mods rallying around him on the pretense that it was done for reasons contrary to the blindingly obvious explanation of "he hangs in nazi discords under his publicly known forums id because hes a nazi"

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

exmarx posted:

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

so what you're saying it's ok for the mods to not do their jobs and let permad nazis they know about skate by on their alts as long as they didn't specifically intend to go looking for that info

jesus poo poo dude, you don't have any buttons anymore and you still pull the thin blue line poo poo. did they pick you because you've got cop brain by nature or was the damage done during your tenure?

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
exmarx reaches for his nightstick to dish out some resisting arrest bans


his hand sadly grasps empty air

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

exmarx posted:

the idea was to get advance warning of future doxxing attempts, not to identify permabanned nazis. a little reading comp goes a long way.

What about the ones who weren't permabanned that he knew the names of, like the one who posted his log

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dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


the point is - cutting some slack to the people who might have been outright victimized by this - the whole harebrained scheme is loving stupid on it's face and we do know multiple people on the team have been aware of it, so it'd be cool to have some response and heck, maybe banning the perma dodging nazis we know are here and unbanning the perma'd posters who called it out would be a good first step to take

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