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Sam Harris is really great if you're in to meditation, and also Islamophobia
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Oh right, Bill Burr, not Bill Hicks
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Abongination posted:Oh right, Bill Burr, not Bill Hicks ahhhhhhhhhhh kk makes more sense
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I like Bill Burr's standup but his podcast irritates me and a good number of his fans are garbage (like Rogan's fans).
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I don't like any comedian who's schtick is that they're an utter rear end in a top hat
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Abongination posted:Giving these people a platform will for sure lead to people with poor critical thinking getting radicalised. That is not a problem with the platform, it is a problem wih people who cannot think critically. Advocating for someone you subjectively think does not think the right way to be denied a platform because stupid people exist is a very slippery slope, comrade.
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100% of nazis should be deplatformed you idiot
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Jan 9, 2020 16:28
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Mzuri posted:Advocating for someone you subjectively think does not think the right way to be denied a platform because stupid people exist is a very slippery slope, comrade. "gently caress nazis, deplatform them" Oh ho ho, so you're saying someone who likes a different pie from you should be silenced? "No, I want nazis deplatformed." Oh wow, now you want people silenced who disagree with you on civic design aesthetics banned?! "gently caress off, if you can't just tell nazis to shut the gently caress up and get out" Gotcha, for now you have told me to shut up, proving you don't just dislike nazis!
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Mzuri posted:That is not a problem with the platform, it is a problem wih people who cannot think critically. Lemme go get my skis then 
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Mzuri posted:That is not a problem with the platform, it is a problem wih people who cannot think critically. Deplatforming someone is not the same as silencing them, gently caress off with this concern trolling poo poo.
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Jan 9, 2020 19:45
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I saw someone on SA describe Rogan as "Oprah, for Bros" and that seems to cover it. Any talk show person is going to platform harmful people to some extent, that's how we got Drs. Oz and Phil. I've watched a few of his interviews and yeah, he seems like Oprah for Bros. I don't understand why he in particular gets so much more flak than the others. Is he platforming Nazis to a greater extent than all other talk show hosts? Is it because he has connected young Nazis with disaffected young men? Ellen decorum-ed her way out the hubbub for sitting at a baseball game with GW, Fallon tousled Trump's hair and is still on every night.
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He has a knack for making the dumbest people you know feel like they're actually really smart. The secret knowledge they think they possess as listeners of his show is all dumb and/harmful bullshit, and it all feels really culty. Same sort of feeling you get from the kind of morons who listen to shockjocks.
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Jan 9, 2020 20:02
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He also has (had? I don’t know if My Favorite Murder has beaten his numbers because they’re also problematic as hell for different reasons) the number one podcast in the world. So the signal boosting he’s able to give the fash trash is immense. Every single like, subscribe, and play he gets on any of his episodes helps to support that, no matter what the specific episode you’re listening to is.
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Fister Roboto posted:Deplatforming someone is not the same as silencing them, gently caress off with this concern trolling poo poo. I am not trolling, I just have an opinion that is not in line with yours. Do you see the problem with your rhetoric of oppressive tolerance? e: awful app acting up (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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What in the absolute gently caress
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Sarern posted:I saw someone on SA describe Rogan as "Oprah, for Bros" and that seems to cover it. Any talk show person is going to platform harmful people to some extent, that's how we got Drs. Oz and Phil. It's probably because Rogan does a lot of podcasts and youtube videos, whereas Ellen and Fallon are on legacy media and most people that feel strongly about deplatforming nazis don't have cable subscriptions at the same rate that older people do.
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Old white dudes are jealous of Ellen over Portia. Boomers now love Ellen because she's got a hot blonde wife. Now they just think of Ellen as someone harmless and lacking balls, like Michael Cera.
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It's really just an odd bug of YouTube's algorithm for Joe Rogan clips ("the good ones") always signs you up for three months of Ben Shapiro OWNING libs with FACTS and PragerU hate speech in your recs.
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They're on legacy media but a load of their engagement, especially dipshit Fallon, is through clips on YouTube. Here's how I'd rank the three from best to worst. Ellen is an older out of touch rich person who doesn't get why she shouldn't be palling around with people like Bush. Fallon is a loving coward who thinks he deserves universal love and acclaim for doing dumb little skits. He is happy to suck up to mainstream lovely people like Donnie for attention. He's also a weak little bitch who did some delicious whining about how maybe he should just kill himself after the hair tussling incident. I'm not going to feel the least bit bad when he eventually succumbs to alcohol poisoning. Rogan is the Platonic ideal of every moron stoner I've ever known. He gave a platform to tons of lovely people from the fringe who otherwise would have passed through this world without notice. His fans are loving morons who are honestly lower on the totem pole than people who bought Chive shirts.
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Wasabi the J posted:It's really just an odd bug of YouTube's algorithm for Joe Rogan clips ("the good ones") always signs you up for three months of Ben Shapiro OWNING libs with FACTS and PragerU hate speech in your recs. If I click one of YouTube's auto playlists based on anything at all, including synthwave playlists or a music performance I was listening to, somewhere 10+ entries down the list it starts into those videos. Doesn't matter that I've never watched Peterson or Shapiro, or that I always tell it to remove those recommendations. The algorithm wants that sweet, sweet engagement, I guess.
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Outside of the PragerU poo poo that everybody gets bombarded with the most insulted I've ever been by a YouTube ad was one for a strip club in Downtown Minneapolis. It just looked loving seedy and I felt like I got Hep C just from seeing it.
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Sarern posted:If I click one of YouTube's auto playlists based on anything at all, including synthwave playlists or a music performance I was listening to, somewhere 10+ entries down the list it starts into those videos. I'm saying it's a lot of eye-opening insights to the white kid world you're not actually engaged with. They see a Joe Rogan clip, see a Nazi telling them there's a reason they're miserable, watch a few hundred videos all self recommending other hate speech, now they're voting for Trump for Kekistan. 
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It's not like I was present when 4Chan started /pol/ and watched dozens of IRC kids self radicalize shortly thereafter, and start more violent and misanthropic message boards when any moderation was conducted.
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Smiling Jack posted:He did.post here, why I brought it up. Had some great pictures. Retired now I think. Zeno was awesome.
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Internet Wizard posted:He also has (had? I don’t know if My Favorite Murder has beaten his numbers because they’re also problematic as hell for different reasons) the number one podcast in the world. So the signal boosting he’s able to give the fash trash is immense. Every single like, subscribe, and play he gets on any of his episodes helps to support that, no matter what the specific episode you’re listening to is. What the hell did my favourite murder do?
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Chiwie posted:What the hell did my favourite murder do? Profit off of laughing about the worst thing that can happen to somebody? Gleefully admitting they don’t bother putting in the amount of research and consideration they feel they should? Advocate for red flag laws and locking people up forever for minor infractions just in case they do something worse later (mostly Georgia). I listened to them for a while but got gradually more and more disgusted every time they’d laugh and joke about how they didn’t even bother doing enough research, let alone laughing and joking about actual murders. Like, Last Podcast on the Left jokes and profits from human misery a lot too but at least they do their due diligence on the research end of things. Their terminal levels of bro energy are painful though
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I deal with horrific violent crime for a living. It's absolutely devastating to most involved. I have never understood people who see it as entertainment.
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Back when I started my job a few years ago we sat over by some young women who listened to true crime podcasts all day long, and would often talk loudly about whatever horrific rape or murder story they were listening to at the moment. The rest of the time they'd talk about The Bachelor. We gave up our nice view for one of a brick wall to get away from them. I can't imagine wallowing in that poo poo all day. My grandma is in a pretty nice memory care unit. Sometimes when I've visited the tv will be set to some exploitative true crime show. I've got to think that poo poo isn't good for them, even in their condition. Beyond that I don't think most dickheads with a podcast have a clue what due diligence means.
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A big part of Rogans' appeal to me is the fringe nuts that want to talk about their intimate relations with aliens or bigfoot or the skinwalkers. I realize I can listen to other podcasts about this poo poo, Rogan just draws all the cryptozoological crazies out. Or at least used to, I have no idea about who he's had on from the crytpo conspiracy folks lately. I'm not blindly clicking on nazis. Internet Wizard posted:
Ben from their show is apparently a big alien and ghost guy. Just watch travel channel, you'll see him on there commenting on "Paranormal" videos. It's the laziest goddamn show since Brian Callen was on World's Dumbest Videos. They just run and rerun the same youtube uploaded potato quality videos and draw conjecture about what they would do if confronted with a UFO or a demon or whatever. Chupacabra/Sasquatch 2020
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My friend put it best in regards to Last Podcast on the Left. They aren't looking to glamorize whatever murder or crime they are discussing, they're more a less taking the piss out of these guys (and occasional women) by making fun of them instead of speaking of them in hushed tones like they should be continuously feared or revered if you're a loving idiot. I've never watched any of their shows though but their podcast is pretty funny.
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Internet Wizard posted:I listened to them for a while but got gradually more and more disgusted every time they’d laugh and joke about how they didn’t even bother doing enough research, let alone laughing and joking about actual murders. I had the exact same thing happen to me with My Favorite Murder. I couldn't stand how they bragged about how little research they actually did. It was around the time that the "housekeeping" section felt as long as the rest of the show, and when their battle cry against toxic masculinity kinda turned into "every man on the planet is 100% a murderous fuckhead also how come I don't have a boyfriend?". And Last Podcast (okay, Henry) might get obnoxious every once in a while, but you can tell they actually do the reading and research they claim. Marcus seriously sounds haunted on some of the heavier, darker episodes, e.g.: the 9/11 series or Jonestown. That man has definitely read some poo poo that keeps him awake at night.
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Just to be clear, LPotL is a great podcast. It’s just not a bingeable podcast because of the double whammy of Henry and the subject matter. I do love the episodes where Henry is allowed to lead and it’s about some crazy dude who called into Coast to Coast AM or David Eicke. Brings me back to listening to Coast to Coast while on radio watch on field exes in the desert
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LPCotL is awesome. Henry is awesome.
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Scratch Monkey posted:LPCotL is awesome. Henry is awesome.  
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