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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

AceOfFlames posted:

Foucault, Derrida and Beauvoir being on that list always make me go "God, WHY?".

Honestly the most surprising thing is Jean Luc Godard not being on there.

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MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
Beauvoir being on that list is especially surprising, but not excessively so considering how many prominent French women have come out to denounce MeToo as a witch hunt.

France has a lot more in common with loving Russia in that respect than most other western countries.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

France and Italy, in general, have some very hosed-up mores when it comes to sex and gender issues.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I’m serious guys, it’s because of the Nazi infiltration of the European Sexual Revolution

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

There are 'a lot of predators' in the fashion industry: Kathy Ireland
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kathy-ireland-fashion-industry-predators-121356256.html

'I've been dying for 25 years': How a cop has stalled his child sex abuse trial for decades
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/11/20/cop-stalls-his-child-sex-abuse-trial-claiming-dying/2574771001/

2 K-pop stars get prison terms for sexual crimes
https://news.yahoo.com/2-k-pop-stars-prison-074031120.html

Phil Spector Update
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7826387/Phil-Spector-79-pictured-sporting-goatee-bald-head-hearing-aids-latest-mugshot.html

Bust Rodd posted:

Isn’t this at least somewhat related to the relatively large influx of white nationalism into France after World War II?

It was there before WWII. The dynamics of France and Germany before (and during) WWII have become more distorted in recent years. In actuality, much of France and Germany were united in Anglophobia, antisemitism and Russophobia throughout the whole era.

The Sorrow and the Pity (1969) covers some of this and brings about many disturbing topics that no modern war films touch on much.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Lmao of course the father of deconstruction is a loving pedo

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I remember being a really devout Hakim Bey fanatic in college because I was really into anarchist poetry and then someone on Facebook was like “please don’t stan a Pedo” and I got very upset, first at him for attacking my hero, and then at Hakim Bey for arguing that, in an advanced society, emotional and sexual relationships with children might not necessarily be predatory. It was a pretty big blow but at least I started doing research on people before I bought their books anymore!

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


It's unsurprising about Beauvoir since she herself had relationships with teenagers as an adult woman, together with Jean-Paul Sartre.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

professor metis posted:

It's unsurprising about Beauvoir since she herself had relationships with teenagers as an adult woman, together with Jean-Paul Sartre.

Obviously 12 year olds can't consent to sexual relationships, but if I was 15 and had a threeway with Beauvoir and Sartre I would never shut up about it.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Can you really say you had a relationship with Sartre if he never looked at you straight in the eyes

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
at first I was like "oh well at least Camus isn't on that list"

then i double-checked the date and realized it might just be because he'd been dead for 17 years

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Camus was a Pied-Noir though. He wanted Algeria to stay french.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

at first I was like "oh well at least Camus isn't on that list"

then i double-checked the date and realized it might just be because he'd been dead for 17 years

Hey, maybe he said Living is Anguish because all of his friends wouldn’t shut the gently caress up about diddling kids.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

MonsieurChoc posted:

Camus was a Pied-Noir though. He wanted Algeria to stay french.

Figures. Reading The Myth of Sisyphus helped me cope with some really bad depressive episodes and was a huge influence on my thinking, but there's another essay in that very collection that basically amounts to a defense of imperialism done up in masturbatory obscurantist rhetoric. :smith:

Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jan 9, 2020

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Figures. Reading The Myth of Sisyphus helped me cope with some really bad depressive episodes and was a huge influence on my thinking, but there's another essay in that very collection that basically amounts to a defense of imperialism done up in masturbatory obscurantist rhetoric. :smith:

Well, he was a complicated human being. But despite being fairly left-wing, he had a huge blind spot over Algeria due to being born from colonizers.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/tom_winter/status/1215324221276139520?s=21

Yo I have to admit it’s pretty weird that literally every single facet of Epstein’s suicide seems to have been completely mishandled. Honestly kind of at a loss for how someone so high profile could be the victim of 19 completely separate inconsistencies and coincidences

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Ayyyyyyyyyy

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11165656/John-Grisham-men-who-watch-child-porn-are-not-all-paedophiles.html

quote:

John Grisham: men who watch child porn are not all paedophiles

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

He's gonna' need a big city lawyer fighting against the system.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

quote:

"But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn."

Uh...no, John Grisham. That is not a normal experience.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

I think there's something to be said that people who watch child pornography shouldn't be getting harsher sentences than people who physically harm children.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

thrawn527 posted:

Uh...no, John Grisham. That is not a normal experience.

It's always so frustrating that people think their experience is universal. I'm sure he's told that story to friends and they nodded along so he's fine with sharing it publicly because hey we all do it right?

But oh they're just being honest and the rest of us are pretending. Yeah man yeah. People like that just never learn.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I can see someone essentially getting goatse'd except instead of goatse it's child sexual abuse. There are broken, sick people on the internet who would get a kick out of doing that. Hell, didn't some FYAD folks get banned for buying anime CSA "flags" or whatever? What I can't see is accidentally finding some child porn and continuing to view it or maybe continue looking at the same site; that's a crime, and it doesn't really matter if you were specifically looking for child sexual abuse images in the first place.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Yeah, but aren’t law-enforcement officials going to know the difference because they can see whether or not you typed “child porn“ into Google or not

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Steve Yun posted:

Yeah, but aren’t law-enforcement officials going to know the difference because they can see whether or not you typed “child porn“ into Google or not

I would assume so, yes. Just to be clear: I agree with you and I don't for a second believe there are a significant number of people being prosecuted for accidentally accessing a CSA image. For one thing, there are frequently busts based on computers being searched for unrelated matters, and if all it took to be found and convicted was accidentally accessing one image, these perverts would not be able to accumulate the hundreds of images they frequently have.

I imagine, at most, the edge cases are people looking for "barely legal" or "teen" content and then ending up on the wrong side of the line, and it's really pretty difficult to say that's a complete accident.

On the other hand, there have been cases of authors getting charged with creating child pornography for including a scene depicting the sexual abuse of a minor in a work of fiction (and not, like, a piece of erotica focused on that specifically), so who knows what an overzealous prosecutor might attempt? Is Game of Thrones (the novel) child pornography because Danaerys gets raped?

PT6A fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 9, 2020

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Megyn Kelly and 3 other Fox News employees, who were terrorized by Ailes and other male anchors like Oreilly, watched Bombshell and discussed it in a group interview.

Turns out film was very accurate in its portrayal of Ailes and what a monster he and the people around him were and how toxic the environment was.

https://youtu.be/MmSz7HqkI9s

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 10, 2020

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Bombshell unsurprisingly super bombed at the box office because the kind of people who want to see a movie about women taking down a powerful predator aren’t the people rooting for FOX news anchors

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Bust Rodd posted:

Bombshell unsurprisingly super bombed at the box office because the kind of people who want to see a movie about women taking down a powerful predator aren’t the people rooting for FOX news anchors
Yeah, Roger Ailes was a terrible human being and deserved everything bad that happened to him and more, but (maybe to a slightly lesser extent) Megyn Kelly is a hateful and racist person as well.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Maybe a hollywood takedown of the fox news sex monster rings a little hollow given hollywood's ongoing problem with sex monsters.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Maybe a hollywood takedown of the fox news sex monster rings a little hollow given hollywood's ongoing problem with sex monsters.

And the treatment of Kate McKinnon's character was a little suspect I thought.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

DrVenkman posted:

And the treatment of Kate McKinnon's character was a little suspect I thought.


https://twitter.com/presidentgay/status/1214581114695757824?s=21

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

MeinPanzer posted:

The French are so weird because they’re liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality but despite their prominent tradition of public philosophical debate they’re almost entirely unreflective when it comes to power relations and sex. See also the MeToo movement being actively resisted by both prominent men and women in France.

You should see how it goes re: race. In the same breath as the riots for freedom and bread in the French revolution, there were riots about the price of sugar, which shot up only due to the beginnings of the Haitian revolution.

Which isn't too say that the French aren't more liberal towards race than say America, but there are other things even today like the French banks of Africa.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

porfiria posted:

How did I not guess it was because he hated on videogames lol.

I actually agree with him about video games. Just not a big fan of his film work, especially when so many great critics like Jon Rosenbaum, Eileen Jones and Dave Kehr are toiling in obscurity.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

AceOfFlames posted:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

Foucault, Derrida and Beauvoir being on that list always make me go "God, WHY?".

The real killer on this list is Althusser. The postmodern deconstructionist types make sense but a doctrinaire Marxist really should know better.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Prince Myshkin posted:

The real killer on this list is Althusser. The postmodern deconstructionist types make sense but a doctrinaire Marxist really should know better.

“Know Better” assumes that they are getting into pedophilia through philosophy, but it’s the opposite. They were pedophiles before they were philosophers, and their pedophilia informs their positions

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

Bust Rodd posted:

Bombshell unsurprisingly super bombed at the box office because the kind of people who want to see a movie about women taking down a powerful predator aren’t the people rooting for FOX news anchors

Yeah as much as Hollywood seems to aim for certain demographics I have no idea what audience they were chasing with Bombshell.

It's a movie I'm sure people will check out when it hits steaming but there was zero box office potential.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
They deserve an Oscar for making Charlize Theron look terrifyingly like Megyn Kelly.

graventy
Jul 28, 2006

Fun Shoe
I thought Bombshell was very good but half of the movie is harassment, which is hard to watch. Not a movie you can really recommend to people.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


Well, poo poo. I guess I've been needing to re-stock my bookshelf for a while, anyway.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
That looks like a crime scene photo

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Mar 3, 2004

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