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VideoTapir posted:The term "middle class" needs to die. Have you heard the good news of "the professional/managerial class"?
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There’s also other hurdles like you could spend thousands of dollars on adoption paperwork and the birth mother still has a window of some amount of time to change her mind and reclaim her child. It’s an insanely arduous process, one of my co-workers adopted 2 toddlers a couple years ago (she’s and her husband are white, the kids are white-ish) It cost them thousands and the whole process took about 5 years from start to finish and they went thru multiple foster children, including fostering 3 siblings at once which did not pan out. We joke about how when you want to adopt you have a dozen people coming to your house to make sure you’re competent (that you have to pay for) but if you pop out your own kid no one gives a poo poo enough to come to your house and make sure your not feeding them out of a dog bowl or whatever.
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Inept posted:https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=299900 Huh. Now I understand tankies.
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Inept posted:Living in a HCOL and making a middle class salary is a struggle lol
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Tunicate posted:wtf i'm anti-union now
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Some friends adopted one of the first kids available through the states "just drop your unwanted kid at the fire station , complete amnesty" program and still had to pay about 40k to do it. Its insane . White dad, carribean dad, black daughter for what it's worth
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mastershakeman posted:Some friends adopted one of the first kids available through the states "just drop your unwanted kid at the fire station , complete amnesty" program and still had to pay about 40k to do it. Its insane . White dad, carribean dad, black daughter for what it's worth What, you want poor people to be allowed to have children?
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Inept posted:Living in a HCOL and making a middle class salary is a struggle edit: Sorry didn't notice this was a quote. Didn't recognize you so I assumed it might be real, since there have been other posts like this in the D&D primary thread. (Also I thought this was succ zone for some reason) edit2: The one "high earner" situation I can feel any sympathy for is a situation where someone is in some high paying job that is really unpleasant to work and doesn't have a skill-set that translates to changing jobs (so maybe something like a specialized law field), but who has a family and house in a high COL area so they can't stop working at the job without losing their family and need to make house payments. I mean, I still don't know if I'd go as far as calling it "sympathy" (since they got themselves in that situation) but I don't really find that particularly enviable. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 23:27 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Jan 10, 2020 21:53
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Goon Danton posted:Have you heard the good news of "the professional/managerial class"? I love how it still conflates management (capital) and nonmanagement (labor...aristocracy, but still labor).
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Jan 11, 2020 02:06
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Comrade HI McDunnough had a solution for this
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I like 'the Secretariat' personally
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there are working class people, working class people in denial, and the superrich owners of everything. Denial is a heck of a drug.
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StashAugustine posted:"Petite bourgeoisie" already exists That's the guy running for president, right?
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right? 
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right? 
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right?
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right?
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right? 
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right? 
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Hospitality industry trainer thinks the reason people have 2-4 jobs is 'cause they're living above their means lmfao. 
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Tubgoat posted:Hospitality industry trainer thinks the reason people have 2-4 jobs is 'cause they're living above their means lmfao. Well yeah. They don't have the means to live.
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raverrn posted:That's the guy running for president, right? yes
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StashAugustine posted:Comrade HI McDunnough had a solution for this That method of adoption has an extremely steep cost gradient. It's either very cheap, or very costly, without much in between.
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The Nastier Nate posted:not that the $230,000 income family would have a huge issue with it but adopting kids is insanely expensive and the upfront cost is a huge barrier to middle and working class families who might choose to adopt. I have adopted twice - private domestic infant adoption, it's about 10 to 16k depending, but you get a huge tax credit which helps.
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Sylink posted:I have adopted twice - private domestic infant adoption, it's about 10 to 16k depending, but you get a huge tax credit which helps. That's how they keep it from the poors. You have to be able to pay the steep up-front cost before you get the rebate.
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they don't give adoption approval to (obviously qualified) single asexuals which is some bullshit too, this woman is far more qualified to have kids than my mother but nooooo she has to go IVF instead because gays are scary
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International adoption is a massively racist grifting industry based on the universal truth that rich white people have an inalienable right to other people’s children.
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Hmm yes I'm sure my two cousins would much rather have stayed their entire childhoods in a Russian orphanage than be adopted by an American couple.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Hmm yes I'm sure my two cousins would much rather have stayed their entire childhoods in a Russian orphanage than be adopted by an American couple. a few positive cases don't negate the fact that massive cottage industries are propping up the american international adoption industry by "creating" orphans, through outright purchasing and trafficking of children that might have had an opportunity to be raised by their families in their native countries
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God Hole posted:a few positive cases don't negate the fact that massive cottage industries are propping up the american international adoption industry by "creating" orphans, through outright purchasing and trafficking of children that might have had an opportunity to be raised by their families in their native countries hell the current border crisis is creating a native industry exactly like this for Mexicans
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God Hole posted:a few positive cases don't negate the fact that massive cottage industries are propping up the american international adoption industry by "creating" orphans, through outright purchasing and trafficking of children that might have had an opportunity to be raised by their families in their native countries Okay, yeah, human trafficking is bad (I feel like that should be a given but I'm saying it anyway) but are you trying to claim that's the majority of international adoption? Because I find that pretty hard to believe without some kind of citation even in the hellworld we live in.
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And the ones that rich white people don't want to adopt can be sold as slaves instead
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Okay, yeah, human trafficking is bad (I feel like that should be a given but I'm saying it anyway) but are you trying to claim that's the majority of international adoption? Because I find that pretty hard to believe without some kind of citation even in the hellworld we live in. i did not claim that it comprises a majority of international adoption, no. i'm saying that the gross human trafficking aspect is inextricably linked with how the international adoption industry is set up. the philosophy of the industry as stated by Comrade Koba combined with the profit motive will inevitably lead to human trafficking every time. we watched it happen in real-time with the border crisis.
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So you're saying that by participating in the international adoption industry at all you're supporting an industry that has elements that allow trafficking to take place, and with how it's set up there is no way currently to make sure it's not taking place, especially when adopting from disadvantaged nations where the levels of record keeping and corruption mean adequate scrutiny on the adoption sources is impossible? That's a fair enough argument, at least with the minimal exposure I have to the topic, I can't disagree with that. From how he was phrasing it though I thought his next post was going to be that white people shouldn't adopt PoC, a spicy take that my adopted (by white parents) biracial ex-wife heard her entire life.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:So you're saying that by participating in the international adoption industry at all you're supporting an industry that has elements that allow trafficking to take place, and with how it's set up there is no way currently to make sure it's not taking place, especially when adopting from disadvantaged nations where the levels of record keeping and corruption mean adequate scrutiny on the adoption sources is impossible? Phoneposting earlier so sorry I didn't go into more detail, but yeah, you got it exactly right. Also, in a lot of cases the lack of record keeping (or in some cases outright tampering with it) is absolutely intentional and known to the Western adoption agencies. Comrade Koba has issued a correction as of 16:47 on Jan 12, 2020 |
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imagine not supporting china's babby market that pays top dollar for healthy white males what is cspam coming to
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CharlestheHammer posted:this isn’t even the only thread that is defending her. Who defended her?
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