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brugroffil posted:really struggling to understand the thought process here student/medical debt
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EvilJoven posted:If there's one thing the Internet left loves to do its punch down in any way that's still considered socially acceptable. I think you're either very confused or wilfully misreading it really. No one is criticising poor people, they're suggesting that through general taxation you should tax rich people to fund a fire service that puts out fires. It's weird leap of logic to get to 'but they're poor, how will they afford it? This must be an attack on poor people' . That's the trick, they don't pay for it.
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Aramoro posted:I think you're either very confused or wilfully misreading it really. No one is criticising poor people, they're suggesting that through general taxation you should tax rich people to fund a fire service that puts out fires. the problem is that the service is being offered by local government A, because local government B does not provide the service. A does not have the power to levy taxation over B, but they are close enough to offer the service, so to ensure the residents of B pay their fair share into the system you have to charge a fee instead of a tax, and this fee is not compulsory punching down kicks in when we avoid talking about these jurisdictional barriers and the wild fragmentation of american local government (an aspect of the overriding need for Local Autonomy) as instead being attributable to toothless ignorants who can't math right and are simply greedy. this is a class-based argument which is simpler to articulate and more satisfying than, say, criticizing the existence of home rule laws which devolve governmental power and boundaries from state authority to localities, creating differing levels of service in places with fragile tax bases to end this derail and tie it back to OSHA, there's a lot of places that are so remote and have so few people they can't even afford to have local doctors https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/out-here-its-just-me/2019/09/28/fa1df9b6-deef-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html quote:In the medical desert that has become rural America, nothing is more basic or more essential than access to doctors, but they are increasingly difficult to find. The federal government now designates nearly 80 percent of rural America as “medically underserved.” It is home to 20 percent of the U.S. population but fewer than 10 percent of its doctors, and that ratio is worsening each year because of what health experts refer to as “the gray wave.” Rural doctors are three years older than urban doctors on average, with half over 50 and more than a quarter beyond 60. Health officials predict the number of rural doctors will decline by 23 percent over the next decade as the number of urban doctors remains flat. you can't really solve this problem by 'increasing general taxation' because in a lot of places, there's no agency to allocate the minimal taxes which would be scraped up by a tax increase, and it likely wouldn't be able to cover the cost of anything but a med student in a pickup anyway Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jan 17, 2020 |
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luxury handset posted:the problem is that the service is being offered by local government A, because local government B does not provide the service. A does not have the power to levy taxation over B, but they are close enough to offer the service, so to ensure the residents of B pay their fair share into the system you have to charge a fee instead of a tax, and this fee is not compulsory Ah so because of the stupid way things are organised services are wildly underfunded which makes any criticism of the under funding of those service 'punching down'. Got it.
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Is the filmer waving the person into the train?
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Aramoro posted:Ah so because of the stupid way things are organised services are wildly underfunded which makes any criticism of the under funding of those service 'punching down'. Got it. the punching down part is pointing at the failures of an inefficient and fragmented system and attributing them to poor education and a lack of civilization. i get the moral outrage, journalism relies on this outrage to drive clicks and cloud understanding of the real fault - overly fractured jurisdictional lines leading to a division of tax bases. not great to then leap from that point to just say the people who live in those areas are too dumb and immoral to government the proper way
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Yo, less debate and discussion and more cool osha poo poo please and thanks.
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Moving away from the city to avoid paying taxes to firefighters, then demanding they save your house when you didn't pay them is pretty OSHA to me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Cojawfee posted:Is the filmer waving the person into the train? Looks like it. And I wouldn't be surprised if they only went because they panicked and saw the person behind them motioning to move.
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Backing up into the railroad crossing gate is almost always an option. I'm sure a broken post is preferable to a broken engine.
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I would guess the engine and all of its cars weren't broken, not sure about the car's engine though
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Cojawfee posted:Is the filmer waving the person into the train? Renegret posted:Looks like it. And I wouldn't be surprised if they only went because they panicked and saw the person behind them motioning to move. Yes, sure. Seems probable. If my car ever was on some train tracks for whatever reason and a train is coming, I'd probably look into the rear view mirror and wait for the person behind me to wave me into the right direction too.
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Edit: Burt Sexual's killing the fun is the real OSHA
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GotLag posted:Edit: Burt Sexual's killing the fun is the real OSHA Yo, chat about trains, post an osha. Ain’t hard is it?
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Burt Sexual posted:Yo, chat about trains, post an osha. Ain’t hard is it? Actually, trains are very hard.
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And you can injure yourself by training too hard! Always lift with a spotter!
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Hey fellow valley buddy! Gilbert just recently got their own EMS up and running a few weeks ago 
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We don’t drive to Ravenholm anymore.
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Fury Road pre-cgi scene.
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Bad Munki posted:Holy poo poo. I was going to just post the pics from this dump that I hadn’t seen in this thread yet, but then I had like two dozen pics to post and, well, just go look, there’s a lot here, some really ace work: This is the one that makes me nervous: 
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Azhais posted:more schadenfreude thread really The Shad thread is back?
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Humphreys posted:The Shad thread is back? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3897718
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There are so many different ways they could have illustrated this, so I'm glad they picked Forklift Evel Knievel.
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Humphreys posted:The Shad thread is back? The heck? It’s like the top thread in gbs when I just checked Lotsa cross over from here and there of course as well
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Grouchio posted:What was that BLEVE
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I gave up on it one or two iterations when it became nothing but 20 page slap fights on whether "death" is schad or not. I'll give it another go, but given the history and given "goons are goons", I'm not holding out much hope for the thread staying on the rails.
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Grouchio posted:What was that That damned Vault Dweller shooting up random cars again.
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Proteus Jones posted:I gave up on it one or two iterations when it became nothing but 20 page slap fights on whether "death" is schad or not. The thread is so much better here in GBS.
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Proteus Jones posted:I gave up on it one or two iterations when it became nothing but 20 page slap fights on whether "death" is schad or not. Platystemon posted:The thread is so much better here in GBS. 
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Proteus Jones posted:I gave up on it one or two iterations when it became nothing but 20 page slap fights on whether "death" is schad or not. Please report or pm me as both osha and schaden are my babies. I will care for them, goons feed them.
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There has GOT to be some OSHA in here somewhere about how this system is rigged. The mind boggles. https://twitter.com/brockwilbur/status/1218252514111283200?s=20
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Platystemon posted:The thread is so much better here in GBS. Related. I added a derail clause to the op. Make a new thread if you post three pages of stuff. Like the volunteer fire thing could be a total thread for 10 pages. I’d like to keep this light and fun. I’d read the firefighter one as well...
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Grouchio posted:What was that I have no clue truthfully, but it looks like a large propane tank exploding, with a piece of it landing close to the person filming.
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ScentOfAnOtaku posted:I have no clue truthfully, but it looks like a large propane tank exploding, with a piece of it landing close to the person filming. As the user above said, it's what's called a BLEVE and they do NOT gently caress around.
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Never Mind the Bollards
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Dannywilson posted:As the user above said, it's what's called a BLEVE and they do NOT gently caress around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-JgyQA7u0
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