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qirex posted:Don't bother trying, even commercial displays are "smart" now. That said most TVs will let you not use the "smart" functions if you avoid the onboard apps [except for the ones that report your viewing habits for resale to advertisers]. On my Sony I never see the Android home screen unless I specifically request it which I only do to tweak the settings. You could just not give it network credentials but some will join public networks if they can't phone home. I use a dns sinkhole to keep “smart” things from phoning home. My TCL tv still ranks as one of the top offenders trying to do stuff when it shouldn’t. So it just gets routed to Dev/null.
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Jan 16, 2020 01:37
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I love how local people try selling their 10 year old 32” unbranded 720p TVs with one working HDMI for $100 when I can literally go around the corner and buy something brand new for less than that. (It’s all my fault for breaking the spare bedroom TV, but jeez it’s good to see people are still completely delusional about how fast tech goes down in price, especially when it wasn’t great to begin with).
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Jan 16, 2020 04:11
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I’m getting 300 for my mint condition 11 month old 55” Samsung series 7. That’s fair right?
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Jan 16, 2020 05:08
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I mean that’s a lot more reasonable than this guy trying to sell a TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR 37” Panasonic plasma that’s 480p for the same price. I honestly can’t believe it’s a plasma given the size of the screen, and they bothered putting an hdmi port on it. I’m sure it was great at the time! https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ele/d/deerfield-beach-panasomic-plazma-tv-32/7056855827.html This guy I’m just lost for words. Yeah gamers are falling over themselves to buy your 20” RCA tube TV from 1991. https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ele/d/fort-lauderdale-vintage-rca-20-crt-tv/7050843012.html Brain worms. EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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Jan 16, 2020 06:50
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Plasma people are actually insane.
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Jan 16, 2020 07:03
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EL BROMANCE posted:I mean that’s a lot more reasonable than this guy trying to sell a TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR 37” Panasonic plasma that’s 480p for the same price. I heard there are gamers who do this for reasons. Anyone know more about it?
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Jan 16, 2020 07:07
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American McGay posted:Plasma people are actually insane. I’m still waiting for the next coming of the plasma. My Panny is a decade old. May she last another twenty.
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Jan 16, 2020 07:11
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Rolo posted:I’m getting 300 for my mint condition 11 month old 55” Samsung series 7. That’s fair right? Yes. This is one of my favourite past times, scanning facebook marketplace to see what stupid things people try to get away with selling. Some of my favourites: a guy selling a four year old 50 inch LG with two vertical lines of dead pixels ("unvisible if you ignore them") for €300 The guy selling nearly new, just used once bottles of baby oil The guy selling his anime body pillows The unfortunate wording of the "sofa-cum-bed" covered with big white stains visible in the pictures
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Jan 16, 2020 08:10
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papa horny michael posted:I heard there are gamers who do this for reasons. Anyone know more about it? Not 20" Coby TVs, no, but retro gamers like the following things about old tubes: 1. There's no input lag. Digital TVs have an innate lag between input and display due to all the processing they do, and the (usually) sub-par chip that handles converting the analog output of the game system into digital for the TV to display adds even more. 2. Phosphor glow and other artifacts of CRTs adds a sort of natural motion smoothing and anti-aliasing to old games. To people who grew up with them it looks better than a digital screen, even though a panel is more accurate. 3. There isn't any filter between your source and the screen. Digital processing that looks great on movies often looks terrible on games. This is less true now than it was in the recent past. 4. An enormous amount of ~*feels*~ around playing the games they loved as a kid on the TV they dreamed of as a kid. When I first got into QA there was an enormous Sony widescreen CRT in the lab that we would start fights over to play Street Fighter II on. It was gorgeous and I've never seen it look prettier. It also weighed like 500 pounds.
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Jan 16, 2020 08:54
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I own one of those 500lb Sony widescreen CRTs (34XBR-960) and it's awesome but incredibly niche nowadays. I doubt I could get someone to take it for free (it's seriously massive).
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Jan 16, 2020 09:03
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If you have one of the desired Sony CRT's definitely do make an effort to rehome it when you retire it. The CRT factories no longer exist and apparently can never return due to loss of techniques that needed to be passed via apprenticeship. https://venturebeat.com/2017/03/03/what-the-death-of-the-crt-display-technology-means-for-classic-arcade-machines/
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Jan 16, 2020 11:53
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American McGay posted:Plasma people are actually insane. I think the insanity came before I got the plasma. Ultimate Mango posted:I’m still waiting for the next coming of the plasma. My Panny is a decade old. May she last another twenty. Inshallah.
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Jan 16, 2020 12:55
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American McGay posted:I own one of those 500lb Sony widescreen CRTs (34XBR-960) and it's awesome but incredibly niche nowadays. I doubt I could get someone to take it for free (it's seriously massive). I once moved one of those into a five-story walk up and it was one of the most miserable days of my life
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Jan 16, 2020 16:13
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TCL 55R625 $467 shipped
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Jan 16, 2020 22:09
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When I had some friends over I setup my old plasma in the bedroom so my wife could just chill to watch Netflix and play some Mario Kart since she was tired and a) didnt wanna watch the game b) didnt want to go to her sisters. It was so flipping hot in there cause this is a big rear end 60" Panasonic GT30 plasma... I miss the thing but gently caress could it give off heat. I am prob just gonna give it away to my brother for his rooming house he watches.
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Jan 16, 2020 22:35
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Ha, before I even got to the second sentence I was thinking "but what about the heat?!". Yeah watching TV sure kept me warm in the early 2010s.
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Jan 16, 2020 22:47
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EL BROMANCE posted:This guy I’m just lost for words. Yeah gamers are falling over themselves to buy your 20” RCA tube TV from 1991. In addition to what Tricky Ed said about CRTs, there are certain tricks that console programmers used to get effects to work that don't quite translate to digital panels all that well. Sonic games, for example, used the interlacing on a CRT to help create a transparency effect for waterfalls which doesn't quite work as nicely on a modern screen. Adding to Ed's second point, things were made in mind for the CRT limitations. I noticed that the SNES Classic's FF6 text is slightly distorted. There are these interesting 'shadows' that accompany the text but don't 100% match the letters. On a modern screen it just appears to make the text a little jaggy. But when I pop the FF3 cart into my old SNES and play it on a CRT, what happens is that the initial text fades in and the 'shadow' artifacts pop in after to help give the text definition and set it apart from the background slightly.
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Jan 17, 2020 18:21
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If anyone’s looking at a TV let me know so I can buy it and put into the place the retail magic that makes it go on sale the next week. Oh well...
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Jan 17, 2020 20:23
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah, no, I'd consider giving someone $40 for that. He had it listed for $100 originally, hence the delusion. He's dropped it realizing nobody is going to pay that.
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Jan 17, 2020 20:40
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Well, about a year after this post:Fifteen of Many posted:I’m not sure if this is the right thread for this and apologize if not. I have a Samsung plasma that has started having this single line of flickering pixels. Input source doesn’t matter. I’ve tried googling but may be describing it poorly because the returns I’m getting aren’t quite this. Has anyone had a similar issue and if so, any guidance? the TV has developed two inch-long section of dozens of lines each, so my wife and I are looking to replace. We use the TV mostly for movies at night and maybe a few hours of gaming a week. Debating going all-in on a C9 OLED or something more reasonably priced like one of the QLED 60 series. Any testimonials on either of those, or suggestions on a different direction? My heart screams OLED but I'm horribly indecisive when it comes to spending money on nice things. Fifteen of Many fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Jan 20, 2020 01:31
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You have a plasma, so you probably don't upgrade too often? If so, the C9 is a solid choice that you won't be regretting 5 years down the line.
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Jan 20, 2020 05:30
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I can't really see replacing my C6 anytime soon and it's almost 3.5 years old now. I wish it handled motion a bit better (like being able to properly reverse 60hz progressive back down to 24hz) and Dolby Vision from external inputs can be a bit wonky, but I can mostly work around that and the Shield 2019 has finally allowed me to realize Atmos and Dolby Vision for streaming. Also, the 3d on this thing is still loving phenomenal and I keep holding out hope each year that they toss it back into the mix. Basically, my C6's replacement is going to have to be a marked improvement in pretty much all aspects to get me to give that up.
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Jan 20, 2020 06:00
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One reason I’m second guessing OLED is wondering whether, at twice the price, there’s either a) enough streaming HDR content to make it worth it or b) enough of an improvement in image/color in standard Blu-ray or other formats that it’ll be worth it regardless. I know 4K blu is an option, just unsure if it’s a situation where you’d spend the money then find you need to make further investment to really use it. Is OLED really an improvement in almost every way, even without a ton of HDR/4K blu content? If standard blu, games and streaming services look that much better it could be a go on its own. Fifteen of Many fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Jan 20, 2020 06:12
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It improves everything. There's also a massive amount of streaming HDR content now.
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Jan 20, 2020 06:24
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Fifteen of Many posted:Is OLED really an improvement in almost every way
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Jan 20, 2020 06:44
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Stop making me want to upgrade. Maybe I should list my plasma for $950 and then get a C9 at Costco.
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Jan 20, 2020 06:48
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You should. It ruins every other TV there is, and even going to most theatres feel very downgraded from your soon to be new tv. There’s a room of good content now too, HDR is wonderful and even many old movies are being remastered in 4K and look amazing
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Jan 20, 2020 08:09
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Fifteen of Many posted:Is OLED really an improvement in almost every way, even without a ton of HDR/4K blu content? If standard blu, games and streaming services look that much better it could be a go on its own. I upgraded from a Panasonic plasma I bought in 2013 and holy balls the C9 kicks its butt in every way [except that it has lag with my cheapass sound bar but enough loving with settings made it tolerable] even on 1080p SDR content. Highly recommend. 4K is pretty common now, for example with Disney+ has nearly every Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, and (mainstream) Disney movie ever made in 4K HDR. Most of Netflix’s original content over the past few years, which is a fuckton of stuff. Amazon has a bunch of stuff too, and every major content store (e.g. iTunes) supports 4K HDR for a ton of titles. The only thing I’ve found that’s available on 4K BR and not 4K streaming is Westworld, oddly enough. I have that on disc and it looks loving amazing though, worth the trouble to get it IMO.
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Jan 20, 2020 08:22
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4K on disc is really the way to go if you can anyway. Some digital 4K doesn’t look very good yet, especially Disney+ with its fake 4k and poor HDR implementation. Netflix isn’t too bad though and well worth the 4k premium monthly cost, they have a ton of stuff including quite a few Dolby Vision movies and series. Wait till you see Planet Earth II or Blade Runner 2049 on the B or C series with a physical disk, it’s really something else.
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Jan 20, 2020 08:32
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Half of me wishes I got the C9 instead of my Series 8 but I’m going to wait until I have a PC that supports HDMI 2.1 before I pull the trigger on OLED. Hopefully I can get a decent 65” 120Hz OLED HDMI 2.1 for under 2k$ when that day comes.
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Jan 20, 2020 15:54
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Those of you with an OLED, how bad is the stutter for lower FPS content? Thinking consoles (Bloodborne!) or standard Blu-ray. I’m seeing a lot of mixed posts on other sites for the C8 and under.
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Jan 20, 2020 16:07
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Fifteen of Many posted:Those of you with an OLED, how bad is the stutter for lower FPS content? Thinking consoles (Bloodborne!) or standard Blu-ray. I’m seeing a lot of mixed posts on other sites for the C8 and under. I've never noticed an issue. I play alot of console games.
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Jan 20, 2020 16:30
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Picked up some Luminoodle 6500K lights from Amazon.. and I think they have done the trick of making my tv look a bit nicer since I do not have OLED yet.
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Jan 20, 2020 17:46
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The faster response time of OLED takes a little getting used to, but it's not a ton different than adjusting to plasma rainbows either.
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Jan 20, 2020 19:02
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I am almost clueless when it comes to TV audio. I have my two M-Audio reference monitors connected to the headphone-out port on my LG C9. They sound pretty good, the problem is that the volume level is wildly incosistent between different apps and content. So I guess I need a receiver? I really don’t need any fancy functions, just something that will take my TV’s output and be smart about volume levels.
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Jan 20, 2020 19:56
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Having to trawl through the Nextdoor/Craigslist for a second hand cheap TV for my guest bedroom is over, as it turns out I'm king idiot who didn't realize that the TV my friends gave me the end of last year wasn't dead (it was in a Florida car overnight, then 4 hour travelling to mine) but in fact had both a standby button I knew about and an on/off rocket button under the bezel I didn't know. D'oh.
EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Jan 20, 2020 20:08
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Fifteen of Many posted:Those of you with an OLED, how bad is the stutter for lower FPS content? Thinking consoles (Bloodborne!) or standard Blu-ray. I’m seeing a lot of mixed posts on other sites for the C8 and under. The key separation here is that an OLED completes nearly all pixel transitions in 2ms or less. VA panels used in LCD based tvs have very slow dark pixel rise times (black to white or any near black to a brighter color), usually take 20+ms, and the full spectrum averages out to something like 12ms. The overall slower pixel response time adds an artificial level of motion smoothing to the image, simply because it can take so long to update relative to an oled. For context, a frame at 60hz is 16ms or so. The gist of all this is that games with bad frame timing (like bloodborne as a very common example) will look measurably worse on an OLED, because the TV is actually capable of showing you how poor that frame timing really was. I personally wouldn't buy a lower quality set to cover bases like this. This is also the sort of thing where once you see it on a sufficiently fast display, you'll likely also be able to spot it on a slower display. Individual sensitivity to this can vary. For some, they actually enjoy the panel induced blur / smoothing, since it can mask jitter / stutter caused by poor frame timing or trying to resolve 24fps into a 60hz panel etc. Others turn on backlight strobing and similar modes to achieve near crt clarity in motion because they hate the blur of sample and hold displays. Your best bet would be to try and find a demo unit at a retail store, and hopefully they don't have the motion smoothing poo poo on so you can get a feel for what it looks like in motion.
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Thanks for everyone's comments. I took the plunge and now have an LG C9. Did a quick before/after test to compare it's stutter against a standard DVD (Casino Royale's dealer pan shot), standard Blu (Coco), and Bloodborne and honestly the performance seems about on par. All that fretting for nothing!
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My Vizio V505-G9 won't stay turned off. I was watching something on hulu on Sunday through smartcast when the picture froze and wouldn't unfreeze. Now if I try to turn the tv off it turns back on and appears grey-ish. I also can't change inputs from smartcast. Any ideas? Power cycling hasn't helped. edit: I bought it back in September if that helps. Doctor Teeth fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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