joat mon posted:

First ship of the Kissinger class, with sister ships Gallagher, Behenna, Golsteyn, Lorance, and Calley.

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

USS Robert E. Lee

Cyrano4747 posted:

Already exists.

Also a ship named after a prominent segregationist.

See the wall of text above for those tidbits.

FMguru posted:

Spoken like someone who never sat next to him at an official state banquet

Cyrano4747 posted:

. . . of course now we just named a CVN after an enlisted man who won the medal of honor so time to add another set of exceptions and see whether this becomes a whole new thing or if it becomes a new parenthetical where we have to explain the hyper-partisan political scene in 2020, the Trump administration, and growing discomfort with naming carriers after recent presidents who happen to only be from one party.

McNally posted:

Dorie Miller didn't get the Medal of Honor, he got the Navy Cross.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Carriers: here's where poo poo gets weird. Technically they were seen as a form of cruiser (hence the "C" in "CV" - the V being a french word for flight or aviation or something.)

piL posted:

Minelayers and Minesweepers named so you wouldn't get confused:
USS Trapper, USS Barricade, USS Bastion, USS Obstructor, USS Annoy, USS Palisade, USS Defense, USS Detector, USS Bulwark, USS Guide.

Pretty Cool Minesweeper Names
Most of the bird ones, USS Adroit, USS Daring, USS Engage, US Fierce, USS Swift, USS Pioneer, USS Pursuit, USS Seer, USS Skill, USS Swerve, USS Admirable, USS Arcade, USS Aspire, USS Augury, USS Captivate, USS Compel, USS Deft, USS Disdain, USS Hilarity, USS Knave, USS Gallant, USS Spear, USS Nimble, USS Saunter, HMS Friendship, USS Lucid, USS Acme.

Minesweepers and Mine Countermeasures ships named things too cool, presumably to screw with enemy intelligence:
USS Revenge, USS Sentinel, USS Alchemy, USS Armada, USS Assail, USS Bombard, USS Elusive and USS Illusive, USS Execute, USS Fancy, USS Impervious, USS Invade, USS Peril, USS Phantom, USS Pirate, USS Ransom, USS Sentry, USS Specter, USS Champion, USS Devastator, USS Gladiator, USS Triumph, USS Fearless, USS Impervious, USS Reaper, USS Liberator, USS Gorgan, USS Terror.

Minesweepers named other navy words presumably to make things confusing to enemy intelligence:
USS Armada, USS Pilot, USS Tide, USS Buoyant, USS Report, USS Security, USS Skipper, USS Chief.

Minesweepers with ties to the kink scene:
USS Firm, USS Force, USS Climax, USS Control, USS Penetrate, USS Dominant, USS Endurance, HMS Cuckoo.

Terrifying Effigies posted:

If Miller is the new format then CVN-82 needs to be the USS Ernest E. Evans

Bonus points for being 3/4ths Cherokee/Creek.

For those not familiar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar#USS_Johnston

That Works posted:

USS Penetrate

piL posted:

Named after the Bureau of Personnel.

piL posted:

Minelayers and Minesweepers named so you wouldn't get confused:
USS Trapper, USS Barricade, USS Bastion, USS Obstructor, USS Annoy, USS Palisade, USS Defense, USS Detector, USS Bulwark, USS Guide.

Pretty Cool Minesweeper Names
Most of the bird ones, USS Adroit, USS Daring, USS Engage, US Fierce, USS Swift, USS Pioneer, USS Pursuit, USS Seer, USS Skill, USS Swerve, USS Admirable, USS Arcade, USS Aspire, USS Augury, USS Captivate, USS Compel, USS Deft, USS Disdain, USS Hilarity, USS Knave, USS Gallant, USS Spear, USS Nimble, USS Saunter, HMS Friendship, USS Lucid, USS Acme.

Minesweepers and Mine Countermeasures ships named things too cool, presumably to screw with enemy intelligence:
USS Revenge, USS Sentinel, USS Alchemy, USS Armada, USS Assail, USS Bombard, USS Elusive and USS Illusive, USS Execute, USS Fancy, USS Impervious, USS Invade, USS Peril, USS Phantom, USS Pirate, USS Ransom, USS Sentry, USS Specter, USS Champion, USS Devastator, USS Gladiator, USS Triumph, USS Fearless, USS Impervious, USS Reaper, USS Liberator, USS Gorgan, USS Terror.

Minesweepers named other navy words presumably to make things confusing to enemy intelligence:
USS Armada, USS Pilot, USS Tide, USS Buoyant, USS Report, USS Security, USS Skipper, USS Chief.

Minesweepers with ties to the kink scene:
USS Firm, USS Force, USS Climax, USS Control, USS Penetrate, USS Dominant, USS Endurance, HMS Cuckoo.

Nebakenezzer posted:

So what should the USN name after Nixon?

McNally posted:

Counterpoints: HMS Buttercup, Pansy, Cockchafer, Broke, Spanker, Dainty, Griper, Happy Entrance, Candytuft, Honeysuckle, Wallflower

Cyrano4747 posted:

Oh, and if you want some added insanity, at one point there were people very, very concerned over whether airplanes in naval service needed serial numbers, hull numbers, or names. Remember, this is pre-WW1 when they were still a novelty and no one really had any idea how many we'd have. There was a push to have them recognized as literal ships of the air and get "hull numbers" (rather than the mere serial numbers a common piece of equipment might receive) and actual names.

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USS Los Angeles (ID-1470), a tanker in commission from 1917 to 1919
USS Los Angeles (ZR-3), an airship in commission from 1924 to 1932
USS Los Angeles (CA-135), a heavy cruiser in commission from 1945 to 1963
USS Los Angeles (SSN-688), a submarine in commission from 1976 to 2010

Fearless posted:

HMS Broke, while sounding unfortunate, was named after a British pioneer in naval gunnery, Sir Philip Broke. While in command of HMS Shannon, he trained his gun crews to concentrate all fire on a specific point of an enemy vessel and this was used to devastating effect in Shannon's famous duel against USS Chesapeake.

Nebakenezzer posted:

In the naval battle of Guadalcanal there's a RN cruiser captain named Coward.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Oh, and if you want some added insanity, at one point there were people very, very concerned over whether airplanes in naval service needed serial numbers, hull numbers, or names. Remember, this is pre-WW1 when they were still a novelty and no one really had any idea how many we'd have. There was a push to have them recognized as literal ships of the air and get "hull numbers" (rather than the mere serial numbers a common piece of equipment might receive) and actual names.

This was also part of a dick waving contest between the Army and the Navy over who should have command of the airplanes. Is an airplane basically a scouting apparatus, the logical extension of the hard charging cavalry tradition? Or is it a ship of the skies, part of the noble tradition of seafarers and explorers pushing into spheres of creation not made for man? A man or a horse are terrestrial creatures operating in their native habitat, but a man in a boat or airship (emphasis on "ship") is a daredevil dependent on the ingenuity of man to not drown/fall to his death.

This inter-branch dick waving is also a sneak preview of what happens later when missiles happen. Is a missile just very long range artillery or a pilot-less airplane? If it's artillery then the Army should get it, but if it's an airplane it's more of a USAF thing or maybe USN too I guess.

THEN some rear end in a top hat realizes that helicopters can be used for combat and we have the whole argument about whether it's an airplane (domain of the USAF) or basically a fancy truck / horse / cavalry analog. (Army). We already have airborne soldiers, but if they ride helicopters to where they're going should the pilots be USAF? Oh and technically we still have cavalry . . . what if an army guy rode a helicopter into combat and shot at his foes from it? Basically like horseback harassing of a larger formation, right?

C.M. Kruger posted:

Mortabis posted:

State names should be reserved for the most important vessels like they were with battleships.

Arglebargle III posted:

Trident about doubles the yield.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Lots of

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I haven't seen this video about the Sprint missile yet, and given the thread's hard-on for it, it's definitely pro-click as it shows *failed* launches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk9mvLFNqMQ

Top Hats Monthly posted:

Found this map dated 1972 about from what I can tell is a Polish battleplan/nuclear attack map?

Dante80 posted:

For starters, who taped over the inevitable Swedish air attack?