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Ghostlight posted:sequence breaking is fun and rewarding. Is this DQ Builders? Andrast posted:I kind of want to change my name to psyduckfan6969 I know you do.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:07 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:05 |
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DQ Builders 2
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:19 |
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Xaris posted:You're either a) buying a console because PCs are intimidating/too confusing/complex/expensive, and prefer couch-potato gaming but don't/can't setup Steam link, in which case a PC version is just extra revenue; or b) you have a PC that's your primary and you're buying a console for an exclusive(s) that you play once n done and it collects dust. The former group is the big bucks, the lattergroup not so much and probably revenue neutral +/- at best. You're not wrong but these factors are a bit more connected and a lot of things have different roots, such as Sony as a core market competitor with Microsoft, but a decade or so longer in the game, had little friction with the PC market in the early years while MS entered full confrontational making 2 major PC core genre usable (well..) for controllers and so on. Sony only later came around, but still mostly had their own things going (which btw. got ported badly to the PC not that seldom) Nowadays most platforms in the core segment are more or less the same, but with each new console manufacturers still have to sell it and retain the audience. And that's mainly done through exclusives, timed or lifetime. I don't see Sony breaking this rule too much with a few games here and there being later released to the PC.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:45 |
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I’m pretty sure Sony is letting some exclusives go to PC because the PS4 is at end of life, and the PS5 is going to be backwards compatible. You give a market a taste of what’s out on it, and then maybe they’ll get the PS5 to see what they missed and maybe grab the PS5 exclusives.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:50 |
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0 rows returned posted:i dont know about blood omen 2 but the original blood omen has a lot of legal issues preventing its pc release
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:52 |
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A decent number of people will wait out a 1 year exclusive if they're on the fence. No one is waiting out a 3-5 year exclusive. However, that getting that 3-5 year old exclusive on other platforms might bring in new fans, some of whom might jump on to your platform to not wait 3-5 years on the newer release in the series.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 22:53 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m pretty sure Sony is letting some exclusives go to PC because the PS4 is at end of life, and the PS5 is going to be backwards compatible. You give a market a taste of what’s out on it, and then maybe they’ll get the PS5 to see what they missed and maybe grab the PS5 exclusives.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 01:45 |
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Scalding Coffee posted:How reliable is the backwards compatibility for the PS5 going to be? When the PS2 did it, it had trouble emulating half my games with its constant crashing. The backwards compatibility isn't even officially confirmed in any capacity, so. It's just a semi-educated reasonable guess.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 01:47 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m pretty sure Sony is letting some exclusives go to PC because the PS4 is at end of life, and the PS5 is going to be backwards compatible. You give a market a taste of what’s out on it, and then maybe they’ll get the PS5 to see what they missed and maybe grab the PS5 exclusives.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 01:49 |
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Orv posted:The backwards compatibility isn't even officially confirmed in any capacity, so. It's just a semi-educated reasonable guess. Just download an emulator and play your super old (legal*) games in way better graphics than an “emulator” on the PS5 is likely to ever give you? Even from people who don’t have “gaming PCs” in this day and age you should at least be able to do better emulation of PS3 games than the original could do on its own with all the added features modern day emulators provide. Just pop the disc in and you’re good. Burn an ISO beforehand if you want for even faster data access rates.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:01 |
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There's still tons of games current emulators have problems with. It's not just a matter of hardware power.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:14 |
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DatonKallandor posted:There's still tons of games current emulators have problems with. It's not just a matter of hardware power. Especially for the PS3, which as I understand it, is really pretty different from most everything at a hardware level.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:16 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Especially for the PS3, which as I understand it, is really pretty different from most everything at a hardware level. Nothing I’ve ever seen emulators ever circumvent eventually. I’m sure those games folks have let sit for two console generations so far are nearly at the top of the backlog now and can’t wait a bit longer? Right? No reason to *not* get a PS5, mind you; I’m planning on it. But no reason to put so much weight behind either with other likely alternatives.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:29 |
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We've finally mastered emulating emotions. The PS3 is still a ways off.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:32 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Legacy of Kain bundle on Fanatical fyi for everyone. These three games are quite literally some of the best games of the generation, and blow everything else out of the water in more ways then one. They really were modern Zelda/Metroidvania style games and are goddamn incredible. Easily some of my favorite games of all time, and are made in such a modern fashion you'll be amazed going back to them and seeing just how much they did right. The PC versions however are loving busted. Both the GoG and Steam take 2+ hours per game to get set up on Win10. Because there are 12 different things that could be broken, and you have to trouble shoot every single potential fix. This is fine for Soul Reaver 1 because you can save right after the intro and fiddle with it. Soul Reaver 2 meanwhile has a 17 MINUTE INTRO and you have to watch the whole thing before you find out the game is busted. And you can't reach a save point until you get the right fixes in. Defiance works right out of the box, whatever. It says a lot that even saying that I think they are totally worth it. Maybe better to just go download an emulator and play the Ps2 versions but still. I'd easily consider this trilogy gaming masterpieces up there with classics like Morrowind, Deus Ex, BG2, AoE2, Zelda, etc.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:33 |
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The Joe Man posted:We've finally mastered emulating emotions. The PS3 is still a ways off.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:36 |
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Rusty posted:You can play a few PS3 games, not sure how many, but seems that through sheer brute force, they have figured out the PS3. Most important though is you can play Demon's Souls at 4k 60fps now and it runs and looks great. A lot like how PS2 emulation went down (which I assume is finally up to snuff in regard to my Emotion Engine joke, I haven't tried it recently).
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:42 |
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Hell, hows N64 emulation outside the super big games these days? Still a wonky glitchy patch job?
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:43 |
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The Joe Man posted:Right but you need a beast. I actually just tried DeS and while it was technically playable, it was choppy as hell. They're definitely making headway but it's still a few years out before either the hardware standard or emulator optimization catches up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvBpe2edBGU
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:45 |
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The Joe Man posted:A lot like how PS2 emulation went down (which I assume is finally up to snuff in regard to my Emotion Engine joke, I haven't tried it recently). Last time I tried to replay a bunch of different PS2 stuff it ranged from barely playable and wonky (Ace Combat) to completely unplayable (Dark Alliance and spinoffs). So yeah, they can't even properly emulate of the PS2 catalog and that's loving old. I'm honestly most interested in the PS5 because of the rumored PS2 and PS3 compatability, not the PS4 one.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:55 |
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The Vita still doesn't have an emulator either. Neither do the Xboxes. The PS2 is such a weird console that although you can emulate it, it's probably never gonna be near-perfect and the best emulator available is very wonky.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 03:03 |
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Dias posted:The Vita still doesn't have an emulator either. Neither do the Xboxes. The PS2 is such a weird console that although you can emulate it, it's probably never gonna be near-perfect and the best emulator available is very wonky. While Vita2k's progress is...probably slower than that of Xenia even, cxbx-reloaded has been getting some pretty good progress lately. Neither will be replacements for the actual console anytime soon but it's something.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:02 |
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Majin posted:Just download an emulator and play your super old (legal*) games in way better graphics than an “emulator” on the PS5 is likely to ever give you? Even from people who don’t have “gaming PCs” in this day and age you should at least be able to do better emulation of PS3 games than the original could do on its own with all the added features modern day emulators provide. People have already explained it but that's really not how it works, no. If PS5 had the rumored backwards compatibility, which is to say made by the people who definitively know how the consoles work and have the ability to build their emulation around that rather than the nightmare job that most emulators are, it'd be extremely nice. Of course, let us not forget the cautionary tale of the PS3's emulation so, who knows.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:08 |
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The PS4 and Xbone are basically PCs though, and the PS5 and new Xbox will be too. So this time, backwards compatibility is mostly «clock the system at the previous console speeds» which is what PS4 Pro and Xbone X already does
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:14 |
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Cardiovorax posted:On the other hand, I already do have a gaming-capable PC and to a lot of people, going to the effort of making and maintaining one just altogether isn't worth the effort. In Japan, which is still one of the primary markets that console games are developed, PC gaming is barely even a thing last I heard. I was in Osaka the other day and I was surprised to find that Yodobashi Camera had an entire floor exclusively dedicated to building PCs. They had absolutely every part you would need to get a desktop working, from cases to fans, aios, power supplies, SATA cables, mbs, cpus, video cards, the whole works. I also saw more gaming laptops and prebuilt pcs being advertised everywhere, so Japan could be getting interested in PC gaming, especially with the number of Japanese devs putting stuff on steam.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:31 |
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i'd say that people expecting PS2/PS3 BC for the PS5 are hoping beyond hope, sony stopped giving a poo poo about PS2-on-PS4 a long time ago and Jim Ryan's thoughts on BC are "no one actually wants BC" and now he's head of playstation in america you'll get PS4->PS5 backwards compatibility and that's it. and that's assuming sony doesn't change their mind and think "actually we can just create and sell new remasters at full price of games that are only 3-4 years old"
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:36 |
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I’m playing read dead 2 on steam with a ps4 dual shock. The game prompts are coded to what appears to be Xbox controls. (Ex/ letters instead of shapes). The game prompts me to hit a button with 3 horizontal stripes. I cannot for the life of me figure out what button that is. Apologies if there is something obvious I’m missing, but help?!
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:44 |
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:I’m playing read dead 2 on steam with a ps4 dual shock. Start button.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:45 |
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press hamburger to start
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:51 |
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Croccers posted:Hell, hows N64 emulation outside the super big games these days? Still a wonky glitchy patch job? pretty much yeah and probably will forever be tho it'd be rad to be able to run an N64 emulator on the switch
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 05:15 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Start button. Well doh, it wasn’t mapped correctly. Also remapped a problem where right stick click was wonky. Thanks for the help friends.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 06:20 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m pretty sure Sony is letting some exclusives go to PC because the PS4 is at end of life, and the PS5 is going to be backwards compatible. You give a market a taste of what’s out on it, and then maybe they’ll get the PS5 to see what they missed and maybe grab the PS5 exclusives. Bloodborne pc when
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 08:01 |
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Just buy a PS5 and a gaming computer. Bing bong problem solved
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 09:24 |
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:I’m playing read dead 2 on steam with a ps4 dual shock. Ha ha ha, he doesn't know how to use the 3 horizontal stripes! It is the future, we now have hamburger and kebab buttons. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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I think the three stripes are meant to symbolise “options”. It’s generally a button to bring up a menu or a map.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 11:06 |
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Old backwards compatibility was funny. The PS2 had a miniaturized PSX on board and the NTSC launch PS3 used PS2 hardware for its BC. Sony ripped out the PS2 hardware for the PAL launch though, and all the "slim" refreshes didn't have it either - PS2 compatibility was purely based on software emulation afterwards, and very limited because of that. PS4 hardware was very different from PS3 again and didn't have any official backwards compatibility at all, but since it came out after everyone got used to buying their game a 3rd time as a "HD remaster", no one cared I guess . Meanwhile Microsoft and Nvidia got mad at each other during the Xbox (the first Xbox) era when the console was basically a custom PC already, and the new Xbox 360 used a very different PowerPC multi-core setup with Ati graphics, but they still tried to do some backwards compatibility in software for a while. And then the Xbox One (the third Xbox) launched as a custom PC again but without BC because who needs that when you have the best exclusives and Kinect and TV! But because it had the wrong RAM and the exclusives sucked and nobody bought the TV TV TV console, they added software-based BC after 1.5 years or so. But I wouldn't expect any PSX to PS3 compatibility on PS5 (or Xbox/Xbox 360 on the new Xbox). It's a lot of effort for what are now niche games and most of the newer popular titles have been remastered for the current generation that's way easier to emulate. Scalding Coffee posted:How reliable is the backwards compatibility for the PS5 going to be? When the PS2 did it, it had trouble emulating half my games with its constant crashing. Orv posted:The backwards compatibility isn't even officially confirmed in any capacity, so. It's just a semi-educated reasonable guess.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 11:14 |
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orcane posted:And then the Xbox One (the third Xbox) launched as a custom PC again but without BC because who needs that when you have the best exclusives and Kinect and TV! But because it had the wrong RAM and the exclusives sucked and nobody bought the TV TV TV console, they added software-based BC after 1.5 years or so. The Xbox One had backwards compatibility planned from the start, it just took them that long to get it working. We know this because the Xbox One CPU has custom instructions built specifically for the backwards compatibility, it's the only way it managed to do it. Also the Series X will maintain and continue the Xbox/360 back compat the One had.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 11:21 |
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Yes of course it was always planned, and they didn't call it backwards while planning to offer streaming as a replacement, they just forgot to tell people about it when they thought they didn't need it, and remembered to tell when the console didn't sell as expected
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 12:14 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Legacy of Kain bundle on Fanatical The three games in the bundle are listed on the bottom of the page under "You may also like," and it's cheaper to buy them individually than to buy the bundle.
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orcane posted:There are some patents floating around which people base their assumptions on. And backwards compatibility for the current generation games is kind of a no-brainer because of how similar the next hardware is going to be (not saying it will be without challenges, of course) - if it sells consoles because it increases the launch lineup by hundreds of older games, it will be hard to resist. They can always "remaster" the current titles in a year or three with high details instead of medium to low settings
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