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Giant Metal Robot posted:If it is a PhotoCD system, I've been wondering how compatible it is with the rest of the CD standards. It has its own Rainbow Book and everything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Books#Beige_Book_(1992) I saw a website that was devoted to the software side of the format, and it seem to suggest that it's similar enough that most drives won't give you an issue, and it was suggested if you did run into a problem, a reboot with the disc in the drive would remedy it. Here is an Imgur gallery. 28 pictures with commentary. https://imgur.com/gallery/aFUfpGW I am leaning, more and more, to it being part of a kiosk system. It is very well built,and an interesting Half N Half of PC and Laptop parts.
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Computer viking posted:Any hope of seeing what's on the disk? Well, after taking it apart, seems the thing doesn't have any RAM? I don't have the means to hookup a 25 year old SCSI drive, unfortunately. and it is running IBM's AIX system It would probably help solve some questions 
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Jan 20, 2020 16:12
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Johnny Aztec posted:Well, after taking it apart, seems the thing doesn't have any RAM? That might be DRAM soldered down near the sockets. I didn't find anything with the part number though so I am not sure.
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sleepy gary posted:That might be DRAM soldered down near the sockets. I didn't find anything with the part number though so I am not sure. It's about to all go into a box and I'll mess with it later. When I get ahold of a a CRT, I'll put it all back together and see if anything happens. Might see about getting ahold of some RAM from a Thinkpad of that era and pop it in. Or might just sell the drat thing as is! I've had this posted on Imgur, on two Reddit groups, and no one has seen a system like this before. Which would make sense if it isn't a system that was meant to be sold to the public.
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Jan 20, 2020 17:08
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Johnny Aztec posted:Well, after taking it apart, seems the thing doesn't have any RAM? That sticker on the hard drive says HTX not HIX which is IBM’s Hardware Text eXecutive. (A hardware diagnostics and stress test tool) If it’s actually AIX on that drive the machine in question probably doesn’t have an intel CPU (the last version of AIX for intel CPUs was released in 1992), or the drive may have been reused from something else and the sticker just not removed. Pop that heat sink off and see what CPU it’s got!
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Jan 20, 2020 17:09
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GutBomb posted:Pop that heat sink off and see what CPU it’s got!  Not much to go on. The number there comes up blank BUT  If you zoom in, you can make you tinnnny markings on the die core. Which I failed in googling anything useful from it. The other one just says " LSFED" on it.
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The PhotoCD thing might be a red herring. I think the drive just has the logo on it to show it supports reading Photo CDs. I had a very early 2x SCSI drive that was covered in logos for CD, CD+G, PhotoCD, CD-DA, etc just to advertise that it could read them all. E: That might not even be the CPU. It could be the chipset ASIC that links everything together. The smaller chip could be the CPU instead. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 17:43 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Sweevo posted:The PhotoCD thing might be a red herring. I think the drive just has the logo on it to show it supports reading Photo CDs. I had a very early 2x SCSI drive that was covered in logos for CD, CD+G, PhotoCD, CD-DA, etc just to advertise that it could read them all. Hrmm, and I suppose a Photo Kiosk wouldn't be using a proprietary 2.88 MB drive from IBM.
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GutBomb posted:That sticker on the hard drive says HTX not HIX which is IBM’s Hardware Text eXecutive. (A hardware diagnostics and stress test tool) It also says EUT 12 in sharpie on the mobo. Equipment Under Test. Could be some kind of unreleased prototype?
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Jan 20, 2020 17:53
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It's just an old desktop, though the quad PCMCIA flash cards are an interesting feature. I really wouldn't waste anytime trying to get the hardware running again: you'll need to source RAM for a start and even if it does work, the battery is going to be dead and BIOS cleared - which is going to be a real headache to reconfigure. I would be interested in seeing if you can still read the memory cards on suitable hardware.
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Shut up Meg posted:It's just an old desktop, though the quad PCMCIA flash cards are an interesting feature. What the gently caress? All of that stuff is fun.
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Let's discuss what the heck these symbols stand for: Do you think this could have been part of a setup for a medical device?
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Jan 20, 2020 18:01
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https://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue152/S6_Which_computers_use_.phpquote:Which computers use PCMCIA cards? (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association)(includes related article on PC Cards for desktop computers) (Compute's Getting Started with PCMCIA)
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Hrmm, in googling, I found a few other mentions of the same thing but no mentions at all of it past that.
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Jan 20, 2020 18:18
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Seems like that might be describing the PS/2 E. This doesn't seem to be exactly what the OP has though, the PS is too big for one thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2E https://web.archive.org/web/20170624060741/http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/ps2book.pdf
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Jan 20, 2020 18:29
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This case is slightly more than 10 inches one way,and slightly less than 10 the other.
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Jan 20, 2020 18:35
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The PCMCIA slots are a puzzler. I'm wondering if it is some kind of data aquisition/processer terminal? Something where you capture data on a card on a laptop or video device, then plug it into this deskop to quickly transfer to the cards in the back, then more slowly process it on the internal HDD.
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That's definitely a PowerPC - it doesn't even vaguely resemble any contemporary 486, but looks a whole lot like a PowerPC 601. Here's a random one from Wikipedia - notice how the model number is in the same format, and fairly close: Edit: Maybe something in this family?   edit2: diggin around on chipDB, it looks like 601s have quadratic dies, while this is definitely square - which maybe hints at a 603? Computer viking has a new favorite as of 23:32 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Shut up Meg posted:The PCMCIA slots are a puzzler. Looks like you may be down the right path on that. response from reddit here: quote:That's a really interesting find. Definately RS/6000, probably power 2 around 25-50MHZ. Probably originally had 16MB of RAM. The PC cards is weird though. I collect vintage IBM stuff, specifically RS/6000 and AIX stuff, and I've never seen anything quite like that. I have had a couple people express interest in buying it, so I'll move the mystery on down, but I will tell them that when they figure it out, to let me know. Gaining access to the files on the HDD (if possible) would go a long ways toward solving this, but I just don't have any way of connecting up a SCSI drive. Johnny Aztec has a new favorite as of 01:02 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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Jan 21, 2020 00:59
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Not sure what this is but here it is
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A Photoshop is what it is. I kind of would expect an 07 to remember Worth1000. SA used to do alot of Photoshop competitions with them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQMd06fWkHI This is homebrew running on a console released in 1979.
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Pastry of the Year posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQMd06fWkHI Oh at PAX this last weekend they were selling brand new games for NES on cartridges, it was pretty amazing. Didn't play them but watched for a while, can't remember the name of the game that was pretty prominent but still, love to see that.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Oh at PAX this last weekend they were selling brand new games for NES on cartridges, it was pretty amazing. Didn't play them but watched for a while, can't remember the name of the game that was pretty prominent but still, love to see that. People are making amazing games for dead consoles both out of affection and a curiosity about those consoles' limits and it's really wonderful to see. They also tend to get limited physical print runs, which gets weird, because the authors are like "I'm not going to sell the ROM until [x condition is met]." Which is fair, because maybe they want a taste of honey for their work, but it's also sort of unrealistic as to people still using their dead systems and hungry for a fresh cartridge. anyway, people are bonkers and the Intellivision was the first true 16-bit system (look it up) and no further questions unless that question is "do you want to play Biplanes in Triple Action"
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PCMCIA stands for: Personal Computer Memory Card International Association or People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms
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Jan 22, 2020 02:38
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What if there really was a PCMCIA VHS player.
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Jan 22, 2020 02:55
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There was some weird tape backup solution that used VHS tapes.
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I imagine it would be real media over 1998 internet resolution. Can't imagine much had the memory to buffer video as the tape played it
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TotalLossBrain posted:There was some weird tape backup solution that used VHS tapes. You mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUS0Zv2APjU
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So, had this info pop up: "hey an update for you, i can find nothing at all about that box in the IBM records, ive sent off the photo to someone who makes custom units, he seems to think this was a photostore 'Disk to print' box where a user would bring in images on digital media but the mobo is confusing as that board is also used in server devices. If i get any info ill let you know, otherwise its likely a small batch run for a store." "
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You've got a very interesting evolutionary dead end - like a fossil from the Galapagos Islands of a bird with 2 beaks. I've never even seen/heard of a desktop with PCMCIA slots and this has 4. Johnny Aztec posted:So, had this info pop up: Unless they know something specific, that doesn't ring true to me for a handful of reasons: Why the double slot on the front? They would never need to read two cards simultaneously. Whey the slots on the back? Can't be practically accessed What users? Who had digital cameras at that time? The first mass-market digital camera with a card slot was the Kodak DC50 and that came out in 1996. Even then, the number of people that used them was miniscule. E:  Sony Snaplab First introduced by Sony in 2006, the Snaplab was the first affordable yet professional stand-alone photo printing kiosk. With its large touchscreen and quick printing times, the Sony UPCR10L SnapLab was very user friendly. It had a built in media reader that accepted several types of memory cards, came with built-in templates and would even track orders for commercial applications  Kodak Picture Maker (not sure if that is the earliest model The first Kiosk, named the Kodak Picture Maker was introduced in the late 1990s, followed by second, third (G3) and fourth generation (G4) picture kiosks Shut up Meg has a new favorite as of 10:21 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Shut up Meg posted:
hah the drug store near me has one of these, theres always somebody in front of it, its a workhorse
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bring back old gbs posted:hah the drug store near me has one of these, theres always somebody in front of it, its a workhorse Same. There is a small, weird, but dedicated market for these.
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Computer viking posted:That's definitely a PowerPC - it doesn't even vaguely resemble any contemporary 486, but looks a whole lot like a PowerPC 601. Here's a random one from Wikipedia - notice how the model number is in the same format, and fairly close: I know I'm kramering right into this, but this joggled loose a memory, perhaps it's a Mac Clone, since they were around during the era of the PPC Macs.
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Queen Combat posted:Same. There is a small, weird, but dedicated market for these. In my experience (8+ years doing mini lab field service) it's people printing out their homegrown porn, and then deciding they don't want to pay $40 for a handful of 8x10s.
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How else do people get prints of their photos? That’s how I get family photos printed out for the album/letters, so if there’s a better way...
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Iron Crowned posted:I know I'm kramering right into this, but this joggled loose a memory, perhaps it's a Mac Clone, since they were around during the era of the PPC Macs. IBM never made Mac Clones, however they did make PReP/CHRP ppc desktops for a while.
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blugu64 posted:How else do people get prints of their photos? That’s how I get family photos printed out for the album/letters, so if there’s a better way... We don't own a photo printer either. When daycare needs photos for something, we pay a pittance to print out a few at the kiosk down the street. I'll be sad if they go away.
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blugu64 posted:How else do people get prints of their photos? That’s how I get family photos printed out for the album/letters, so if there’s a better way... i use the walgreens app and just order prints online and pick them up
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