[Mafia] Europa Universalis

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Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Mr. Steak posted:

as scum i would be ignoring you entirely right now

Not if you thought that would be a dead giveaway based on observers of your last games.

The only thing you could do worse at this point would be an OMGUS.

Preview edit: lol

# ? Jan 22, 2020 16:55

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 12:31

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lumpen posted:

So this time you're flailing, to show that you [I]aren't[I] not Town, in contrast with the other games where you played it cool and didn't get flustered when you were not Town? Do I have that right?

you know my answer. this is not a good-faith question. im not engaging with you anymore after this post (for now, obviously)

1) im not flustered. my genuine inside my own brain self-reflective opinion is "no, i am indeed not feeing flustered". that is a hard truth to me, so im sorry that youre reading me weird but you're wrong. im replying a lot because im eager to finally be town

2) i play it cool as scum because that looks less scummy. and i'm a player who will be read as scummy in a million and one ways, so as scum i have to be hyper-aware of these things. as town, not so much. maybe what youre interpreting as awkward is just a result of me *finally* not having to be performative

# ? Jan 22, 2020 16:58

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Looking forward to some other peoples' analysis of this. Do you see what I see?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:01

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

2 penny bottle imp posted:

Just lol for creating a role that forces you to manually track Steak's insane vote ramblings.

Amnistar posted:

My regret is palpable.

Lumpen posted:

Except (if you're even telling the truth) being able to stack votes on the same player would be the obvious upgrade, and would be a dangerous power on a secret-alliance aligned player (SAAP).

Good point here.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:09

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Lumpen posted:

Looking forward to some other peoples' analysis of this. Do you see what I see?

Not especially, no

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:09

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

Is joke phase even a loving thing anymore?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:10

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Also, not that this is necessarily an imminent concern yet given I started the game and went to sleep and woke up three hours later to 52 unread posts, but Amnistar, do we have lurker rules?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:10

Amnistar: Nov 6, 2008; I am a wizard, not a poet.

Yea sure. If you have less posts than me in a given day, you dead.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:11

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

SalTheBard posted:

Is joke phase even a loving thing anymore?

IllegallySober posted:

Welcome to the Council of Nations.

I have identified the entirety of the scum team:

-CPig
- xiw
-Eat the Rich
-RF

You�re welcome.

##vote CPig

Nope.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:11

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Amnistar posted:

Yea sure. If you have less posts than me in a given day, you dead.

Quick, let�s rolling start someone and then eleven players die :twisted:

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:13

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

SalTheBard posted:

Is joke phase even a loving thing anymore?

Nope.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:15

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Can�t tell who is more scummy, Steak for once again making day 1 of a game about him or Lumpen for feeding into Steak�s megalomania

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:23

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr. Humalong posted:

Can�t tell who is more scummy, Steak for once again making day 1 of a game about him or Lumpen for feeding into Steak�s megalomania

im honestly offended that you have this opinion of me (between lots of games).

idk what to say to it. im not doing this on purpose. i claimed because my role happens to be funny when combined with a player like me, and also has no utility to being secret. sure, part of that has roots in narcissism i suppose, assuming other people would find something amusing based on my own meta. but also who cares? let me find amusement in my own unfortunate mafia meta without leveling real arguments against my character...?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:30

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i also post a lot. thats not an invitation to have discussion focus solely on myself.

lets instead talk about how lumpen always LOVES jokephase and how its scummy of him to try pushing someone so hard right away?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:32

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Mr. Humalong posted:

Can�t tell who is more scummy, Steak for once again making day 1 of a game about him or Lumpen for feeding into Steak�s megalomania

both are in character

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:32

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Mr. Steak posted:

lets instead talk about how lumpen always LOVES jokephase and how its scummy of him to try pushing someone so hard right away?

Ah yes. Yes, go on... talk about that.

I have 150 games in votefinder for you to base this meta case on. Cite your examples.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:36

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lumpen posted:

Ah yes. Yes, go on... talk about that.

I have 150 games in votefinder for you to base this meta case on. Cite your examples.

i'll let you go first. i only have less than 30 games in vf, so it should be easier for you

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:38

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

anyway, im not gonna let humalong make me self-conscious about posting.

lumpen attacking someone else for a meta case when youre pushing a meta case as your only read isntna good look

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:39

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

It is Wednesday my dudes

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:42

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

This seems like Town Steak at his purest.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:51

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Mr. Steak posted:

##vote lumpen because he should know me, and this game, better

So please explain this vote. Give me a view of your thought process...

The way I see it, it's either
1. Blatant OMGUS with a false rationale
2. Purportedly, based on your expectation of my meta knowledge about you from our 4 games together and your own characterization of yourself that you've awkwardly been flailing about right out of the gate in this game.
3. Or based on your meta knowledge of me from those 4 games, from which you have concluded... Hehhe... that Lumpen... hehehe... "LOVES jokephase" and "doesn't push or probe anyone right away."

My friend, I am the inventor of Content Game. Ruining jokephase is like one of the most salient bullet points of my meta.

Signs point to #1. So why are you ginning up misguided lies to cover it?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 17:55

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Lumpen posted:

My friend, I am the inventor of Content Game.

Okay, then give the rest of us a content game to play while you continue to tunnel on ol� Steak-umms here.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:07

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

IllegallySober posted:

Okay, then give the rest of us a content game to play while you continue to tunnel on ol� Steak-umms here.

Sure. Rules of Content Game: I pose a question, if you answer it with a forthright and contentful utterance then that's good for Town. If you dodge it or refuse or lurk and slow down Content Game, that's bad for Town. Content Game always reveals the a differently-alitned individual every time and when it does I vote them and that's the end of the game.

I encourage anyone to launch their own Content Game at any times, especially anyone who doesn't like my Content Game and thinks they can do better.

Content Game Round 1:
Illegally Sober, name three names.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:20

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Lumpen posted:

Content Game Round 1:
Illegally Sober, name three names.

Xiw, Eat The Rich, RF

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:22

Mr. Steak: May 9, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lumpen posted:

So please explain this vote. Give me a view of your thought process...

The way I see it, it's either
1. Blatant OMGUS with a false rationale
2. Purportedly, based on your expectation of my meta knowledge about you from our 4 games together and your own characterization of yourself that you've awkwardly been flailing about right out of the gate in this game.
3. Or based on your meta knowledge of me from those 4 games, from which you have concluded... Hehhe... that Lumpen... hehehe... "LOVES jokephase" and "doesn't push or probe anyone right away."

My friend, I am the inventor of Content Game. Ruining jokephase is like one of the most salient bullet points of my meta.

Signs point to #1. So why are you ginning up misguided lies to cover it?

because i was trying to provoke you.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:31

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

Lumpen posted:

Content Game Round 1:
Illegally Sober, name three names.

Steve, Jake and Monica

I know it wasn't my question but wanted to play anyways

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:31

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

IllegallySober posted:

Xiw, Eat The Rich, RF

I note you have chosen 2 people who have not posted since the game started, and one who only made a non-game-related post about modding. Thank you, very interesting.

Content Game Round 2:
Retro Futurist: If you had a gun right now and had to immediately shoot someone among Xiw, Eat the Rich, and Illegally Sober..
1. who would you shoot?
2. who of those would you next hand the gun to?
3. name someone NOT on that list who would you never confide a sensitive personal secret to.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:40

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Can someone explain how Content Game is judged? I am interested in this tactic on joke phase?

Sal, Lumpen, Steak

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:41

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Lumpen posted:

I note you have chosen 2 people who have not posted since the game started, and one who only made a non-game-related post about modding. Thank you, very interesting.

They were also the three people on my opening-game post I�m not currently voting for.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:46

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Leith Maclaine posted:

Can someone explain how Content Game is judged? I am interested in this tactic on joke phase?

Sal, Lumpen, Steak

I�m pretty sure it�s in Master Lumpen�s sole discretion.

Also, you haven�t been called on yet, please raise your hand and wait patiently.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:46

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Leith Maclaine posted:

Can someone explain how Content Game is judged? I am interested in this tactic on joke phase?

Sal, Lumpen, Steak

Utterances and choices about other players (or avoiding mentioning other players) creates a web of connections and evidence and behavior on the record by which alignment can be discerned. Content creates the basis for seiriousvotes and this kills the jokephase.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:46

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

##vote Lumpen

Just going to get this out of the way

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:50

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Lumpen posted:

Utterances and choices about other players (or avoiding mentioning other players) creates a web of connections and evidence and behavior on the record by which alignment can be discerned. Content creates the basis for seiriousvotes and this kills the jokephase.

K, I'm trying to increase my skill set in the game. It will be interesting to see.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:51

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

##Vote lumpen third vote

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:52

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

Lumpen posted:

I note you have chosen 2 people who have not posted since the game started, and one who only made a non-game-related post about modding. Thank you, very interesting.

Content Game Round 2:
Retro Futurist: If you had a gun right now and had to immediately shoot someone among Xiw, Eat the Rich, and Illegally Sober..
1. who would you shoot?
2. who of those would you next hand the gun to?
3. name someone NOT on that list who would you never confide a sensitive personal secret to.

1. You
2. Retro Futurist
3. You

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:54

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Look at all these people flagrantly flouting the rules of Lumpen�s game. So scummy.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:57

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Lumpen posted:

I note you have chosen 2 people who have not posted since the game started, and one who only made a non-game-related post about modding. Thank you, very interesting.

Content Game Round 2:
Retro Futurist: If you had a gun right now and had to immediately shoot someone among Xiw, Eat the Rich, and Illegally Sober..
1. who would you shoot?
2. who of those would you next hand the gun to?
3. name someone NOT on that list who would you never confide a sensitive personal secret to.

gently caress steak, marry Leith, kill Lumpen

# ? Jan 22, 2020 18:58

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Retro Futurist posted:

gently caress steak, marry Leith, kill Lumpen

I note that you chose to disregard the questions and subvert the Content Game by avoiding content. That indicates that you won't flip Town. SAAP detected. ##vote Retro Futurist This ends my Content Game. Anyine else can start another now. When RF flips we'll shave a new datapoint on the effectiveness of the Content Game method.

# ? Jan 22, 2020 19:09

Referee: Aug 25, 2004; "Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

RF was also on my list so sure.

##vote RF

# ? Jan 22, 2020 19:14

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 12:31

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Retro Futurist posted:

gently caress steak, marry Leith, kill Lumpen

Ermmmm, is this where I respond with a kissy face emoji?

# ? Jan 22, 2020 19:15

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