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GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Bing shows better nudes.

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Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
Microsoft has done nothing to gain any sort of trust. Also, Bing Maps are garbage. And trying to push your search engine by installing a browser hijacker is a really weird move.

Chredge having forced Bing on the start page that can't be changed is bad enough.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Bing is trash, except for porn

The idea that MS is now employing standard adware browser hijacking tactics for their premium office suite that you actually pay money to use is laughably typical. I remember a good ten years ago how one of the biggest telltale signs of computer illiterate people destroying their machines with malware was when you used their browser and the search redirected to loving ask.com. Even my school's computers were infected with that for a while because some dumbass IT guy didn't know what the gently caress he was doing (presumably).

Squatch Ambassador
Nov 12, 2008

What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?

Lambert posted:

Chredge having forced Bing on the start page that can't be changed is bad enough.

Yeah, you can't even change that with the new Group Policy templates. The default startup/new tab page is hardcoded to Bing. Nothing's stopping you from setting those to a different webpage though.

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Ruflux posted:

Even my school's computers were infected with that for a while because some dumbass IT guy didn't know what the gently caress he was doing (presumably).

Maybe he just really missed Ask Jeeves. :rip:

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lambert posted:

Also, Bing Maps are garbage.
Bing maps used to have a high resolution aerial view that you could rotate to get different angles that was pretty nice, although I haven't tried it in a while.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

bing gives me free games funbux so I guess that's good enough even if the searches are marginal

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

Ruflux posted:

Bing is trash, except for porn

Hmmm...

*takes Bing for a spin*

Well, how about that. You ain't just whistlin dixie.

mystes posted:

Bing maps used to have a high resolution aerial view that you could rotate to get different angles that was pretty nice, although I haven't tried it in a while.

I remember that and it really ruled.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort

mystes posted:

Bing maps used to have a high resolution aerial view that you could rotate to get different angles that was pretty nice, although I haven't tried it in a while.

That's been gone for a year or more by this point. I think whoever they were licensing those images from (Pictometry?) took their ball and went home.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
Can I upgrade from Home to Pro without having to reinstall everything? I just learned that Docker won't run on Home and it'd be nice to be able to do dev stuff on my laptop as well as my desktop.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

hooah posted:

Can I upgrade from Home to Pro without having to reinstall everything? I just learned that Docker won't run on Home and it'd be nice to be able to do dev stuff on my laptop as well as my desktop.

Yes; just change the product key in settings and it will work automagically.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

That's been gone for a year or more by this point. I think whoever they were licensing those images from (Pictometry?) took their ball and went home.
I thought it was gone too but I just tried it again and it was there so I'm not sure if they started licensing it again or they had just changed the interface so I thought it was gone when it actually wasn't?

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
The Bing team is probably really desperate for users so they can finally datamine what 'good' search results are. :v:

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

mystes posted:

I thought it was gone too but I just tried it again and it was there so I'm not sure if they started licensing it again or they had just changed the interface so I thought it was gone when it actually wasn't?

What place are you looking at? I only see Road and Aerial (Satellite images) as options.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

That's been gone for a year or more by this point. I think whoever they were licensing those images from (Pictometry?) took their ball and went home.

scroogled again!

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



Didn't Microsoft learn anything from the Netscape lawsuit?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

XBenedict posted:

Didn't Microsoft learn anything from the Netscape lawsuit?

They learned that this government doesn't give a poo poo anymore. The EU on the other hand

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lambert posted:

What place are you looking at? I only see Road and Aerial (Satellite images) as options.
It gives you the option if you right click on the map, but it will be grayed out if they don't have coverage.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort

mystes posted:

It gives you the option if you right click on the map, but it will be grayed out if they don't have coverage.

Oh dang, you're right!

mystes
May 31, 2006

It's not the best ui although I think it seems more responsive than Google maps.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

mystes posted:

It gives you the option if you right click on the map, but it will be grayed out if they don't have coverage.

Ah, seeing it now. Still, the way the map is displayed is pretty bad, and street view way more useful.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Ruflux posted:

Bing is trash, except for porn

why is this true? like, is it partly because of Google tweaking results to be slightly more family friendly for world wide use?

Weedle
May 31, 2006




It's because Steve Ballmer is nasty and demanded a search engine suited to his needs.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lambert posted:

Ah, seeing it now. Still, the way the map is displayed is pretty bad, and street view way more useful.
Street view is definitely more useful in general. I've mainly used bird's eye view occasionally for weird things like trying to locate paths that should exist but aren't on the map, because changing the angle can help see through tree cover, so it's not enough to get me to use Bing Maps on a daily basis.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

mystes posted:

Street view is definitely more useful in general. I've mainly used bird's eye view occasionally for weird things like trying to locate paths that should exist but aren't on the map, because changing the angle can help see through tree cover, so it's not enough to get me to use Bing Maps on a daily basis.

Google Maps has a 3D feature that you can enable on the bottom right (then Ctrl + Mouse to change the angle and orientation) that's useful to that effect as well.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lambert posted:

Google Maps has a 3D feature that you can enable on the bottom right (then Ctrl + Mouse to change the angle and orientation) that's useful to that effect as well.
Isn't that just a 3d reconstruction based on the normal satellite view?

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Double Punctuation posted:

Yes; just change the product key in settings and it will work automagically.

Great! Off to SA Mart I go, then.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

mystes posted:

Isn't that just a 3d reconstruction based on the normal satellite view?

No, these are captured from airplanes.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

^^^ oh right, it's all low-flying planes? neat

mystes posted:

Isn't that just a 3d reconstruction based on the normal satellite view?

Some of it is, but a lot of stuff seems to have been generated from Street View with photogrammetry or something. People used to actively contribute (you could either submit textures 3D models or use some tool they had to work from some local images) but the quality and coverage just exploded, so there has to be automation going on from all their ground data

baka kaba fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 23, 2020

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

baka kaba posted:

^^^ oh right, it's all low-flying planes? neat

Yeah, and they usually pass over an an area multiple times from different angles to get every side of the buildings.

On Bing Maps you can rotate the non-reconstructed aerial view to see the different angles they captured.

repiv fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jan 23, 2020

Raygereio
Nov 12, 2012

papa horny michael posted:

why is this true? like, is it partly because of Google tweaking results to be slightly more family friendly for world wide use?
Partly yes. Google has way more effective filters, so you have to very specific in your search queries if you want your smut.
Also Bing doesn't get nearly as many DMCAs as Google. And off course once the meme of "Bing is good for porn" started, hordes of horny dudes started training Bing to produce porn related search results.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

rumor was that bing devs specifically targeted their image/video search to be used for porno but ive never heard that confirmed

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lambert posted:

No, these are captured from airplanes.
I mean, so is the normal "satellite" view but I stand corrected if it's based on multiple angles.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Something about current Google Maps that's bothering me is they removed the street view dates by default - you can only view those if they've been through there more than once (and thus can select another view). If all they have is from 2007 it will be obvious (the quality will be crap), but if all that's there is any time from 2012 to present you'll have no idea when it was taken. Unless I'm missing something.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Ofecks posted:

Something about current Google Maps that's bothering me is they removed the street view dates by default - you can only view those if they've been through there more than once (and thus can select another view). If all they have is from 2007 it will be obvious (the quality will be crap), but if all that's there is any time from 2012 to present you'll have no idea when it was taken. Unless I'm missing something.

The information is (in tiny font) at the bottom right corner.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Lambert posted:

The information is (in tiny font) at the bottom right corner.

I see that now, thank you! Why would they move it all the way down there when it was more useful (and obvious) in the upper-left with the other info like it was before?

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

papa horny michael posted:

why is this true? like, is it partly because of Google tweaking results to be slightly more family friendly for world wide use?

Last time I saw a discussion about the merits of Bing porn, the killer feature was playing videos directly within the search page.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

isndl posted:

Last time I saw a discussion about the merits of Bing porn, the killer feature was playing videos directly within the search page.

Just like Pornhub!

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
But manga is static panels?? I don't understand this.

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Weedle
May 31, 2006




Lambert posted:

But manga is static panels?? I don't understand this.

There’s an animated version of manga. It’s called “animanga.”

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