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time to watch this again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
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nine-gear crow posted:Serious Post: If you bought X-Wing Alliance on Steam or GOG, then you should check out the X-Wing Alliance Upgrade Project or XWAUP. It's a still-ongoing total makeover of the game that takes all the janky 1990s models and replaces them with new highly detailed and textured ones and makes the game look great on modern systems. There's been a couple of projects to remake TIE Fighter and X-Wing basically using the XWA mission building tools. I think they fizzled out and/or got C&D. It's a shame these types of games aren't popular anymore. I bet a studio could make a loving GORGEOUS sci-fi flight sim today.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:18
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If anyone's looking to pick this up (and you should, it is the best) gog.com will give you three different versions if you buy it there. You want to play the 1995 version, NOT the 1998 one. No idea which of the three versions steam is selling.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:56
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I had a nice flight stick setup back in the day. IS XWing/TIE Fighter playable with mouse/keyboard?
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Jan 23, 2020 01:59
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Patiently awaiting for XWVM :vow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XURopswY4
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nine-gear crow posted:Serious Post: If you bought X-Wing Alliance on Steam or GOG, then you should check out the X-Wing Alliance Upgrade Project or XWAUP. It's a still-ongoing total makeover of the game that takes all the janky 1990s models and replaces them with new highly detailed and textured ones and makes the game look great on modern systems. I'm in my mid-30s and I remember looking at this project in high school. That's... something. Also: X-Wing might be strictly inferior to TIE, but it was still really solid. It was the reason my dad upgraded our 286: the man from Babbage's said our computer wouldn't run it, and that was unacceptable.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:20
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Tsed posted:I'm in my mid-30s and I remember looking at this project in high school. That's... something. FWIW every couple of years they completely overhaul it with ever better versions of stuff. But yeah, it is kind of amazing that it's still updating with content in 2020.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:25
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Charles posted:Patiently awaiting for XWVM :vow: Hook that poo poo directly into my veins.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV0VNDbqILY The Rebel Galaxy devs pitched a modern Star Wars flight sim to EA in 2016 and were turned down. 
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Jan 23, 2020 05:48
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It's wild to me that that genre now sits somewhere between "extremely niche" and "gently caress off", when back in the late 80s/early 90s it was a big one.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:57
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sebzilla posted:Looks like someone forgot about motherfuckin' Star Wars Episode I Racer Hell yeah
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Jan 23, 2020 06:31
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Ms Adequate posted:It's wild to me that that genre now sits somewhere between "extremely niche" and "gently caress off", when back in the late 80s/early 90s it was a big one. Video games became mainstream and if your game won't make all the money then don't even bother.
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Jan 23, 2020 06:40
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This game was so much fun as a kid growing up with that Microsoft joystick. I remembered playing X-Wing vs Tie Fighter on the Zone too.
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Jan 23, 2020 06:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNUgfPwoskk Eagerly waiting for both this and XWVM.
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Jan 23, 2020 07:06
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OhFunny posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV0VNDbqILY Huh, this looks like the same engine as Star Trek Legacy
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Jan 23, 2020 08:00
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Chillgamesh posted:time to watch this again I still prefer the older version that someone added music from KOTOR to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU
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Jan 23, 2020 08:15
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vmdvr posted:If anyone's looking to pick this up (and you should, it is the best) gog.com will give you three different versions if you buy it there. You want to play the 1995 version, NOT the 1998 one. No idea which of the three versions steam is selling.  i think collector's cd-rom is the '95 version?
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Jan 23, 2020 09:44
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The Collectors one is the one to play.
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Jan 23, 2020 12:23
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I played the poo poo out of XW and TIE Fighter when I was a kid. There was a week I got sick in middle school and spent the whole time developing a 50 mission tour of duty in the XWing mission editor for a non-allied “Silver Squadron”. The first 10 missions had you ganking alliance and imperial tech in a Guerilla campaign before launching a mix of every unit in the game trying to take your own planet. 
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Jan 23, 2020 12:41
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Ms Adequate posted:It's wild to me that that genre now sits somewhere between "extremely niche" and "gently caress off", when back in the late 80s/early 90s it was a big one. It's not even that niche, something like No Man's Sky made a shitzillion dollars, and Chris Roberts has been bilking people for millions for like a decade at this point. There's certainly interest and desire for loving around in space and blowing poo poo up. Developers just....don't make that game, by and large.
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Jan 23, 2020 18:27
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I always thought the logical follow-up to X-Wing and TIE Fighter would have been a Star Wars clone of Privateer. Let you play a gourad-shaded smuggler.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:01
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Oh this? I guess you could say there's a story behind it
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Jan 23, 2020 22:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5b17A18jI Says literally unplayable, but some parts look totally manageable really. Holy crap.
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Jan 25, 2020 03:44
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Mischievous Mink posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5b17A18jI This looks like it could be a scene out of one of the JJ movies.
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Jan 25, 2020 04:07
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Casu Marzu posted:I had a nice flight stick setup back in the day. IS XWing/TIE Fighter playable with mouse/keyboard? I'm curious about this too. My first real game that I ever got into was X-Wing and when Tie Fighter came out I was just blown away. One of the first games to let you play the bad guy. I mostly use my laptop so I don't want to hook up a joystick to it and I only ever played it with a mouse. I absolutely destroyed my mouse ball.
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Jan 25, 2020 04:26
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I'm curious about this too. My first real game that I ever got into was X-Wing and when Tie Fighter came out I was just blown away. One of the first games to let you play the bad guy. Pretty sure this might be the best documented player out there, and they're using a mouse, or at least a combo, because it seems like turning quickly is hard with mouse. It's made worse by the fact that the joystick has a minimum input so you can't make very precise moves, even with a modern high-precision joystick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18AMNwKjPFI
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Jan 25, 2020 04:30
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Mischievous Mink posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5b17A18jI Did they have to up the projectile limit? I remember that being relatively low.
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Jan 25, 2020 04:56
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zoux posted:Oh this? It's funny because my tattoo is very similar but by my math it's missing an arm. (2/3)/(3/4) is 88%. Just saying. Maybe together we can find an extra 14%?
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Jan 25, 2020 04:56
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Charles posted:It's made worse by the fact that the joystick has a minimum input so you can't make very precise moves, even with a modern high-precision joystick. That seems to explain a lot. Everytime I've gotten back into the X-wing series over recent years I've found it immensely difficult because of the major dead zones when I want to minutely adjust my target. It's the worst when your very far out and lining up an incoming target (who's also lining you up). I always blamed my joystick, because I swear it was not like this back in the day. Is this all X-wing series or just Tie Fighter?
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Jan 25, 2020 05:00
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Isometric Bacon posted:That seems to explain a lot. Everytime I've gotten back into the X-wing series over recent years I've found it immensely difficult because of the major dead zones when I want to minutely adjust my target. It's the worst when your very far out and lining up an incoming target (who's also lining you up). At least XW and TF, I don't think the Windows games have this issue, but I haven't played in a while.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I still prefer the older version that someone added music from KOTOR to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU edit: Ah, missed that someone actually did post this...well, here's this, then: Project materials, including character dossiers and other amusing things.
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Jan 25, 2020 05:57
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I'm curious about this too. My first real game that I ever got into was X-Wing and when Tie Fighter came out I was just blown away. One of the first games to let you play the bad guy. I remember in the dos era it was near unplayable with mouse+kb because you'd need to run the mouse across your entire desk multiple times to say do a loop. Acceleration might fix that.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:04
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Chillgamesh posted:time to watch this again ah, finally the best star wars Excellent Work -- Alpha 1. The Emperor Will Be Pleased.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:17
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Mischievous Mink posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5b17A18jI And I thought a Super Star Destroyer vs 5 Mon Cal Cruisers was ambitious in XWA's editor.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:21
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Kind of weird that the ultimate star fighter in TIE Fighter wasn’t a type of TIE Fighter.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:28
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Dr Christmas posted:Kind of weird that the ultimate star fighter in TIE Fighter wasn’t a type of TIE Fighter. Weird to call the TIE Interceptor not a type of TIE fighter.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:43
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Coolness Averted posted:I remember in the dos era it was near unplayable with mouse+kb because you'd need to run the mouse across your entire desk multiple times to say do a loop. Acceleration might fix that. drag slam drag slam drag slam now back the other way
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Jan 25, 2020 09:01
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Coolness Averted posted:I remember in the dos era it was near unplayable with mouse+kb because you'd need to run the mouse across your entire desk multiple times to say do a loop. Acceleration might fix that. Yeah i remember running the mouse like crazy doing this as a wee lad and it's what motivated me to get (beg parents for) a joystick
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Jan 25, 2020 13:58
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I beat the game on mouse and keyboard. Dogfighting TIE Defenders was hell.
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It was great up until the expansion pack that introduced the TIE Defender, which was overpowered and dumb. There, I said it. 
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