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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Just drive everything and be a picky bastard. Also don’t forget about the veloster n if you can deal with it’s goofiness. I bought the N last month and I absolutely love it.
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Jan 25, 2020 03:48
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The clutch on the Focus ST is pretty light, if a bit vague like every other clutch working with a dual mass flywheel. It's a bit heavier than something like a Miata, '14+ Mazda 3 or a Civic, but it's also pretty forgiving.
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Jan 25, 2020 05:35
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angryrobots posted:The new Corolla hatchback has a 6 speed that is apparently really nice. I guess not that long ago 168 hp would have been a hot hatch but... It's really difficult for me to give up my XRS Matrix for something with similar-ish power with 400lbs more to lug around. I wonder if I can swap that gearbox into my vibe gt
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Jan 25, 2020 17:10
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Or let Yamaha wave their magic wand in that direction again.
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Dunno if you're serious but from reading reviews, a lot of what makes it good is the downshift rev-matching. I really doubt it will play Toyota Lego across several generations. Do you dislike the C60? It's not the worst crash-box for an economy car.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:49
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angryrobots posted:The new Corolla hatchback has a 6 speed that is apparently really nice. I guess not that long ago 168 hp would have been a hot hatch but... It's really difficult for me to give up my XRS Matrix for something with similar-ish power with 400lbs more to lug around. The shifter and clutch are nice but the engine is so gutless it’s not even worth it. From what I understand the CVT that Toyota has in it is pretty good with a real first gear that goes into CVT mode after that. Kinda want to drive one just to see how it feels, savagegeese seemed to really like it.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:47
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Just drive everything and be a picky bastard. Also don’t forget about the veloster n if you can deal with it’s goofiness. local Hyundai dealership wanted me to fill out a credit application to drive a $30,000 Veloster N I promptly walked the gently caress off
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Jan 25, 2020 20:24
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MunchE posted:local Hyundai dealership wanted me to fill out a credit application to drive a $30,000 Veloster N Yeah, our local Hyundai dealer wanted a credit app to test drive a $14K used Genesis. The salesman was a total cocksucker about it but the GM attends our cars & coffee events and we're pretty friendly so I went over cocksucker's head and got to drive it anyways.
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Jan 25, 2020 20:32
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MunchE posted:local Hyundai dealership wanted me to fill out a credit application to drive a $30,000 Veloster N That's when you tell them you're paying cash then there's no excuse for it at all. I always say I'm paying cash with no trade in whether I am or not, that way there's no discussion about financing or trade ins until you know for sure it's the car you want.
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Jan 25, 2020 21:11
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Applebees Appetizer posted:That's when you tell them you're paying cash then there's no excuse for it at all. I wasn't that excited about the car in the first place. Last thing I'm going to do is jump through hoops to prove to them I can afford $30,000. It's their job to make me want to give them money, not my job to make them want to sell me poo poo. Hilariously Kia had no such scruples letting me drive a $50,000 Stinger GT, nor Ford with a Mustang GT, nor Audi with an S4. Eat poo poo Hyundai dealer!
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Jan 25, 2020 22:29
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:oh weird maybe living in buffalo actually sucks If big cities were so great, people living there wouldn't feel the need to take potshots like this. 
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Jan 26, 2020 20:32
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The blend door actuator in my FiST is clicking again. I've had it replaced 3 times now with less than 60k on the car... Is there an easy way to just disconnect it? becuase gently caress that thing.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:35
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youd think there would be an aftermarket or revised part for that car. is it the outer ones or the one you gotta pull the whole dash for?
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Jan 27, 2020 14:54
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earlier conversation re: gti and si - does the new si still require a tune to get rid of rev hang? that would piss me off a lot
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Jan 27, 2020 14:59
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sneakyfrog posted:youd think there would be an aftermarket or revised part for that car. is it the outer ones or the one you gotta pull the whole dash for? When I replaced mine the new unit was significantly thicker, like almost twice the width, so I assume there is some kind of new part out there. Only had the car for another 5k miles past that though so no idea if it would have lasted any longer.
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Jan 27, 2020 20:43
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Applebees Appetizer posted:That's when you tell them you're paying cash then there's no excuse for it at all. 
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Jan 27, 2020 20:55
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Bentai posted:I tried that with another attempt to test an N, and the sales manager told me he’d allow it if I handed over my credit card to him while I was on a test drive with another salesman. It took me four dealerships to find one that would let me test-drive the N without agreeing to terms or a credit check first. For whatever reason they’re really weird about that car.
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Jan 27, 2020 20:58
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korean brand dealerships are universally poo poo in whatever ways it's possible to be poo poo
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Jan 27, 2020 21:13
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This is actually a big issue for Hyundai. The cars have vastly improved but the dealer network is still lagging years behind. They treat a lot of customers like a scummy but-here/pay-here used lot. My wife and I bought two new Hyundai’s a few months back and the shopping experience was a little gross.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:26
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MourningGlory posted:This is actually a big issue for Hyundai. The cars have vastly improved but the dealer network is still lagging years behind. They treat a lot of customers like a scummy but-here/pay-here used lot. My wife and I bought two new Hyundai’s a few months back and the shopping experience was a little gross. Yup I had an Elantra and gf had an Accent and service was always a headache. Tried 3 different dealers in our area. At the end of the day the Veloster N didn't seem cool enough that I'd want to pay that price for it anyhow, blue and red color scheme be damned.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:36
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MourningGlory posted:This is actually a big issue for Hyundai. The cars have vastly improved but the dealer network is still lagging years behind. They treat a lot of customers like a scummy but-here/pay-here used lot. My wife and I bought two new Hyundai’s a few months back and the shopping experience was a little gross. I 95% agree. I’ve had one good experience (the dealer I bought my car at), the rest have been scummy as gently caress. After moving to Ohio, I got an oil change done and it took two tries before I concluded they couldn’t not way overfill the oil and I went elsewhere.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:37
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genesis dealer rollout has been... exciting, for that reason
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Jan 28, 2020 14:21
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SEGA rear end Fisting posted:The blend door actuator in my FiST is clicking again. I've had it replaced 3 times now with less than 60k on the car... Is there an easy way to just disconnect it? becuase gently caress that thing. off topic but I owned a 2nd gen Taurus SHO and the blend door actuators on those were almost always hosed up. lmao ford
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Jan 29, 2020 01:02
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:genesis dealer rollout has been... exciting, for that reason One of the only genesis dealers in the broader metro area is the same dealer than can’t do an oil change to save their lives. Worries me deeply...
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Jan 29, 2020 03:33
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I've been super impressed with Lexus dealers since we started owning them. Makes me want to buy another one.
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Jan 29, 2020 14:53
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How many Lexus dealers do you own now!?
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Jan 29, 2020 16:52
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KillHour posted:How many Lexus dealers do you own now!? AA is rich as gently caress, them things print money
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Jan 29, 2020 17:24
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Lol I wish
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Jan 30, 2020 00:34
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I drove 30 minutes right after work to check out a super cheap 2015 FiST and it was a loving SMOKERS CAR GODDAMN IT
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Jan 30, 2020 16:23
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Rhyno posted:I drove 30 minutes right after work to check out a super cheap 2015 FiST and it was a loving SMOKERS CAR GODDAMN IT did it have burns all over? Would not ozone take care of it?
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Jan 30, 2020 16:55
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Rhyno posted:I drove 30 minutes right after work to check out a super cheap 2015 FiST and it was a loving SMOKERS CAR GODDAMN IT I thought you bought a truck
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Jan 30, 2020 16:59
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KakerMix posted:did it have burns all over? Would not ozone take care of it? I saw three burns and the plastics were all hazy and felt gross to touch. The stench was overpowering when I opened the door. I should have know the price was too good to be true. And after the truck kerfuffle I even asked ahead of time if it had been smoked in and was told no. There's a 2014 with reasonably low miles for $8400 about an hour and a half away. I shot them an email and a friend of mine is going to stop by and look at it for me tomorrow.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:02
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Rhyno posted:I saw three burns and the plastics were all hazy and felt gross to touch. The stench was overpowering when I opened the door. I should have know the price was too good to be true. And after the truck kerfuffle I even asked ahead of time if it had been smoked in and was told no. Yeah gently caress every bit of that. I would not mess around with trying to get out that stink and filth.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:04
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Yeah I will never waste time on a smoked car again. There's two FiSTs in town but neither has the Recaros and that's a deal breaker for me.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:07
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The xB I have now was a smokers car, but I just bought it because i needed a car (the rental car was taken back) it had low miles and I was sick of looking at cars. The ozone machine worked well but didn't completely remove the smell, I can still smell it especially on hot days which in Florida is a lot lol. Burns in the seats and on the door panels, and the silver plastic trim had a weird dirty film on it that took hours of scrubbing with a magic eraser to get off. I'm currently looking for another xB to replace it, after having it for awhile now it's pretty clear the PO didn't take very good care of it even tho it has very low miles.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:30
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Rhyno posted:Yeah I will never waste time on a smoked car again. There's two FiSTs in town but neither has the Recaros and that's a deal breaker for me. I love the FiST/FoST Recaros- definitely divisive but they feel snug and comfortable to me Applebees Appetizer posted:The xB I have now was a smokers car, but I just bought it because i needed a car (the rental car was taken back) it had low miles and I was sick of looking at cars. Like what's the optimal-interior-volume-to-size boxmobile now that the Element and xB are gone? The Kia Soul?
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Jan 30, 2020 17:38
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Monkey Fracas posted:I love the FiST/FoST Recaros- definitely divisive but they feel snug and comfortable to me I've driven cars with both seat options now, the recaros fit me perfectly so I can't go without them now. I've very suddenly gotten over being attached to cars so my requirement of a super low miles FiSt went out the window.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:40
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Monkey Fracas posted:Like what's the optimal-interior-volume-to-size boxmobile now that the Element and xB are gone? The Kia Soul? Yeah the Soul is it, although I think it's a bit smaller, my friend has one and it just doesn't seem as roomy to me. There's really no way for me to get the utility I have with an xB unless I get an SUV which I really don't want to do. I'm trying to find the newest, lowest mileage xB I can find right now and it's not easy, even the 15's (last year made) tend to have a lot of miles on them. I had a bead on one with 11k miles on it but it got sold out from under me.
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Jan 30, 2020 21:41
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Yeah the Soul is it, although I think it's a bit smaller, my friend has one and it just doesn't seem as roomy to me. There's really no way for me to get the utility I have with an xB unless I get an SUV which I really don't want to do. I'm trying to find the newest, lowest mileage xB I can find right now and it's not easy, even the 15's (last year made) tend to have a lot of miles on them. I had a bead on one with 11k miles on it but it got sold out from under me. I keep thinking about getting a Mazda 5 and taking the middle seats out of it for a tiny cargo van. It even has little adorable sliding doors! Came with a manual for a while as well but that was disco'd a few years before they actually stopped selling it in the US.
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Jan 30, 2020 22:06
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The Mazda5 is cool too but those are all way up there in mileage now. I kinda gave up on the hot hatch idea, none of them impressed me enough to spend the money, so I'll just have an xB for my daily and get a Miata to have fun in for less money than it would cost me for a used GTI.
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Jan 30, 2020 22:54
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as an ex smoker i did not understand people who fuckin smoked in their cars
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Jan 30, 2020 23:13
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