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killing people in the name of god is morally fraught
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Yeah Cursed Arm Hassan in FGO is your butler by day and kills kidnappers by night. Been pretty impressed by how they flesh out some of the servants, especially the Apoc ones like Avicebron and even cardboard-kun.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:39
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Turns out when your pals aren't competing to be the last one standing in a fight without any real rules, they can be pretty expressive.
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Jan 25, 2020 07:05
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Remember that Jack in Apoc is a terrifying heart eating monster with Reika as her Master while Jack in FGO is a terrifying monster who gets to have fun as an actual child with the MC as her Master.
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Jan 25, 2020 07:24
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she had plenty of fun in apoc and you feed her hearts in fgo, seems like the same deal to me
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Jan 25, 2020 07:39
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Yeah but we feed her demon hearts so it's different, and she gets 3 other girls to play with. Wish I could give her pants though.
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Jan 25, 2020 07:43
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I was under the impression that CAH's weird summoning circumstances in HF meant that he was kind of weird in the head (at least at first, with him stabilizing after a while). I can't be bothered to do a wiki dive to see if I can find where I read this, though.
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Jan 25, 2020 08:30
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yeah that is how it goes down, he basically crawls his way back up into being something resembling human by fighting, and eating from the servants he kills. once he regains his intelligence he has some convos with Zouken. when you look at his wish for the grail it actually owns how Camelot resolves his character a decade later.
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Jan 25, 2020 09:04
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Ytlaya posted:edit: Btw is it ever explained why Cursed Arm is an rear end in a top hat in F/SN but a cool guy in FGO? Generally speaking the assassin class is full people who will kill anyone because whatever, regardless of whatever personal beliefs when they're "off-duty". About the only exception to this is Gray, I guess because she's supposed to be an anti-undead Assassin?
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Jan 25, 2020 09:53
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I do wonder if Cursed Arm actually knew the deal with Sakura beyond the broad strokes in HF.
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Jan 25, 2020 12:13
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I recall the creators of the grail war make it so that only Hassan(s) can be summon for assassin due to their absolutely loyalty, which is probably for the best considering how many psychopath qualify for the class. Anti-heroes was not supposed to be summonable too.
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Jan 25, 2020 14:15
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It's because the class itself favors Hassans, on account of the word Assassin being derived from Hassan. Other works show you can force the issue with the right catalyst, and in FGO all bets are off because anyone Guda meets gets a shiny record for the summon system to use. (Although if you think about it the gacha represents how even with all things aligned it's gonna take a fair bit to get the guy you want)
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Jan 25, 2020 15:11
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Cursed arm was relatively compassionate in hf despite being in a battle royale. Shirou even had a dead end where Assassin kills him quickly instead of capturing him knowing what will happen to him if he is taken alive. Zouken being a "loyal" partner is interesting to see to considering he's the one that made the command seals and the plan was to force everyone to commit suicide. CAH not being in H/A is a shame.
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Jan 26, 2020 08:34
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To be fair I get why Kotomine wasn't in it, Shinji only had a couple of scenes, and Zouken was reduced to a single mention. Even ignoring plot reasons, they're all characters with a decent amount of baggage that might distract from the goofy slice-of-life atmosphere. Hassan is probably in the same boat just by association.
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Jan 26, 2020 15:06
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Man, Babylonia is not shy about its influences. This is basically just an unofficial Fate/Muv-Luv crossover at this point, isn't it?
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Jan 26, 2020 15:18
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The Beta are at least kinda mechanical about how they do things, the grins and sadism remind me of the mass produced Evas more
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Jan 26, 2020 15:36
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OnimaruXLR posted:The Beta are at least kinda mechanical about how they do things, the grins and sadism remind me of the mass produced Evas more The big, freaky, humanlike grins on distinctly non-human bodies are the most iconic part of the BETA's look, though?
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Jan 26, 2020 15:42
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There's also lots of Shin Godzilla mixed in later.
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Jan 26, 2020 15:53
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Darth Walrus posted:The big, freaky, humanlike grins on distinctly non-human bodies are the most iconic part of the BETA's look, though? those are also the most iconic part of the mass produced EVA's look
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Jan 26, 2020 16:03
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Endorph posted:those are also the most iconic part of the mass produced EVA's look The MP Evas aren't bizarre crab-monsters, though. They're humanoids with weird faces.
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Jan 26, 2020 16:04
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If your options are "it's a reference to NGE" or "it's a reference to something else" it's usually NGE.
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Jan 26, 2020 16:06
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Rody One Half posted:If your options are "it's a reference to NGE" or "it's a reference to something else" it's usually NGE. Muv-Luv is pretty influential, though, even if it does borrow a few bits and pieces from, yes, NGE. Hajime Isayama, for instance, openly acknowledged that Attack on Titan was basically just steampunk Muv-Luv.
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Jan 26, 2020 16:12
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I mean I'm sure FGO is probably riffing on Muv-Luv a bit too it's just a line of inspiration that starts from well before muv-luv. Muv-Luv was inspired by mass-produced EVAs, FGO is made by nerds so they were aware of both those things when they designed the Lahmu.
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Jan 26, 2020 16:15
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If you think they're creepy to start with, try with subtitles! (Late Babylonia Anime spoilers, obviously) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwjh7cqa0NQ
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Jan 26, 2020 23:59
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Saying that Muv Luv borrowed "bits and pieces" from Eva is a bit of a fuckin understatement
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Jan 27, 2020 01:14
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its a good thing fate is wholly original *stuffing all utena works into the closet*
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Jan 27, 2020 01:57
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Saying that Muv Luv borrowed "bits and pieces" from Eva is a bit of a fuckin understatement
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Jan 27, 2020 02:06
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Always seemed more Starship Troopers to me There’s an Eva in it. And the gunbuster march. They are big fans.
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Jan 27, 2020 02:13
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Darth Walrus posted:The MP Evas aren't bizarre crab-monsters, though. They're humanoids with weird faces. Bizarre crab monsters made from recycled humans.
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Jan 27, 2020 04:21
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Wish Fate ripped off A Once and Future King, I want to see Saber turn into an goose for the exciting crossover sequel to Untitled Goose Game
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Jan 27, 2020 04:27
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Goethe: If you see a great master, you will always find that he used what was good in his predecessors, and that it was this which made him great.
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Jan 27, 2020 04:28
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incidentally, fate literally stole mephistopheles from goethe
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Jan 27, 2020 04:29
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nrook posted:Wish Fate ripped off A Once and Future King, I want to see Saber turn into an goose for the exciting crossover sequel to Untitled Goose Game Nothing in canon says Merlin did not turn Saber Lily into a squirrel.
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Jan 27, 2020 06:33
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Saber and Fou share a VA. Just saying.
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Jan 27, 2020 06:47
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Merlin still ages backwards in Fate. Sure, we get to see hot Merlin popping across time with the Gudas, but back when he was with Saber he looked full on Higgidus Pigitus.
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Jan 27, 2020 08:05
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No Merlin is eternally a snack
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Jan 27, 2020 08:26
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Dr Pepper posted:Nothing in canon says Merlin did not turn Saber Lily into a squirrel. Indeed 
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Jan 27, 2020 17:41
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Archimedes the owl is the best part of that. Why won’t they put him into FGO. He hasn’t suffered enough Liz and we’ve got so many of them for him to enjoy.
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Jan 27, 2020 17:44
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If we get Archimedes before Morgan or Buddha someone's gonna catch hands
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