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BOGO LOAD posted:the worst one of those was “O’Brien takes his family on a picnic.” no, given how hard the writers always poo poo on him, that description sounds absolutely correct to me like what else *could* possibly happen?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's just the plot device, the real plot is about Bashir getting driven crazy by them while Lwaxana sexually harasses Odo lol the bit where odo goes to sisko to complain about sexual harassment and sisko is like "have you considered just loving her?" i was laughing so hard thinking about that happening today
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i liked when o'brien was tortured for an infinite amount of time in a mental prison and then went home after like three hours and had a brief episode-long bout of PTSD and suicidal thoughts, and then the episode ended and he went back to normal forever
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i like to think odo is gay the only sex act he enjoys is having a man dip their junk in his water pail
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my brain is so rotted through at this point that i half-expected troi’s mom to hold gooform odo in her vagina
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Jan 28, 2020 18:37
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Troi's mom is one of my favorite characters just due to everyone's (especially Troi herself) reaction to her
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Serf posted:my brain is so rotted through at this point that i half-expected troi’s mom to hold gooform odo in her vagina She didn't consider it until after it happened
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Serf posted:sure but that's bullshit imo. also are we saying that all mining and trade is in the form of dilithium and latinum? why? what does the federation need to trade for? i keep hearing "this is our biggest source of dilithium" a lot so i think its just that the writers don't want to deal with how hard it is to come up with conflict in a post-scarcity world You gotta have something to fight over, it can't all be ideologies.
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Jan 28, 2020 19:34
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Peanut President posted:You gotta have something to fight over, it can't all be ideologies. i still laugh when i read about the tng writers tearing their hair out because roddenberry insisted that all members of the bridge crew needed to be friends so they had a hard time coming up with interpersonal conflict then you watch discovery where they just replicated game of thrones and you get multiple backstabs/betrayals an episode and it just sucks
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Serf posted:i still laugh when i read about the tng writers tearing their hair out because roddenberry insisted that all members of the bridge crew needed to be friends so they had a hard time coming up with interpersonal conflict all the officers having to be friends is how we got all the great fun episodes where a space virus / mysterious energy makes the crew violent, horny, or violently horny
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What if the producers of TNG had done all seven seasons at once with no feedback at all Imagine seven seasons' worth of The Naked Now and the episode where Lieutenant Yar is kidnapped by guys from the primitive africa planet
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it i remember my ds9 right, section 31 was created by the starfleet charter so it's been secretly rogue operating since before the founding of the federation. it's like a relic of pre-utopia. the deep buried subtext of ds9 is that federation ideals didn't survive the encounter with the borg.
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I think if you wanna do some story about the Federations ideals crumbling the crumbling should be front and center not already happened, since basically everything in Picard is loving wrong for the Federation. But I don't think you have to do it's ideals crumbling, because as mysterious frankie said, the Federation is propaganda about how we can do better and it's supposed to be held up as this is the gay luxury space communism future we can reach if we stop being terrible, and I don't want it to be dark I want stories about how we get that future. Also Picard didn't give a poo poo about Data, gently caress you Kurtzman.
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Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American film and television writer, producer, and director. He is best known for executive producing the Star Trek franchise since 2009, co-writing the scripts to Transformers, Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy drat, hell of a writer they got for this. Some of the greatest odes to our time, for sure
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BOGO LOAD posted:the worst one of those was “O’Brien takes his family on a picnic.” O'Brien is just the Science Fiction equivalent to the story of Job from the bible...
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Serf posted:he made the mummy so that's one win i guess The bad Tom Cruise Mummy, not the good Brendan Fraiser Mummy
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Feldegast42 posted:The bad Tom Cruise Mummy, not the good Brendan Fraiser Mummy endless trash!!!!!
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Tricky D posted:it i remember my ds9 right, section 31 was created by the starfleet charter so it's been secretly rogue operating since before the founding of the federation. it's like a relic of pre-utopia. it's text on TNG in "The Drumhead"
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Dreylad posted:it's text on TNG in "The Drumhead" That was a good ep
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Feldegast42 posted:The bad Tom Cruise Mummy, not the good Brendan Fraiser Mummy gently caress i forgot about that. my bad
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Not to take away from Trek chat, but A Little Hatred, from Joe Abercrombie is that cool left wing fantasy story in like an early industrial period right? Or is that another book?
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KomradeX posted:Not to take away from Trek chat, but A Little Hatred, from Joe Abercrombie is that cool left wing fantasy story in like an early industrial period right? Or is that another book? that's the one, the timeline of his First Law setting has been continuously advancing (A Little Hatred is ~30 years after the original trilogy iirc) its also the start of a new trilogy LGD has issued a correction as of 01:28 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Tricky D posted:That was a good ep pretty much any picard episode where patrick stewart gets to do some monologues is gonna be good
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Serf posted:gently caress i forgot about that. my bad Don't worry, everybody else forgot about that movie too 
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I rrrrrrrreally want an adaptation of Samuel R. Delany's Nova and have for like 15 years now. I feel like Panos Cosmatos could make a... correct adaptation.
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Feldegast42 posted:Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American film and television writer, producer, and director. He is best known for executive producing the Star Trek franchise since 2009, co-writing the scripts to Transformers, Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy lmao the only successful thing on there is transformers make one lucky hit and youre set for life in hollywood
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Eimi posted:Also Picard didn't give a poo poo about Data, gently caress you Kurtzman. thats one of the weirdest parts of this everyone knows that datas best buddy was geordi picard was at best his boss you could conceivably make a good story out of this by having the premise being that picard is going senile and has much rosier interpretations of his past relationships than actually existed but that would require acknowledging that picard was an appealing character mainly because he was flawed
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Yeah IIRC Data often annoyed Picard with weird "But why human thing?" questions and also caused problems when he did bizarre robot hobbies. Geordie was the one who was awful at human interaction who related to him best.
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LGD posted:that's the one, the timeline of his First Law setting has been continuously advancing (A Little Hatred is ~30 years after the original trilogy iirc) Oh good, I haven't read the First Law books, is that a detriment?
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watched magnolia last night and boy do i yearn for the days of energetic PTA
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I really enjoyed magnolia when I first watched it but on a rewatch it's... not very good. the Aimee Mann stuff is just really fanboyish and everything with John c. Reilly and the woman with the coke is just bad. Tom cruise has an incredibly compelling first scene but then kind of does nothing. I'm not a big fan of the opening bits with the narration either. now, The Master, now there's a fukkin movie
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the data/picard thing was something they played up in the movies, first contact, insurrection a little bit, then nemesis so that's where they're drawing it from it's not completely wrong if you look at it from the perspective that the characters continue to grow after TNG ends -- data and picard become closer, picard starts playing poker at the end of "all good things" which is something explicitly shown with picard. that doesn't mean picard is good or I really want to defend it though gently caress im a nerd
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That Picard gives a poo poo about his former crew is probably the easiest thing to buy about the show so far I don't understand what the problem is
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Tighclops posted:That Picard gives a poo poo about his former crew is probably the easiest thing to buy about the show so far I don't understand what the problem is Yeah, I don't get that criticism. I think it might've been better to be a bit less restrictive about TNG cameos but that's believable. The super duper Tal Shiar i'm not quite as fond of, but i'm fine with rolling onward. They did a lot of explanation of the world building in E1.
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KomradeX posted:Oh good, I haven't read the First Law books, is that a detriment? I'm not entirely through A Little Hatred yet, but yes, it depends on the former books enough that I'd say I would want to read them first. But I have read the First Law first trilogy a ton of times and am entirely biased so I'm a bad opinion on the matter.
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Hero-troop picard gives america a much needed message of hope, in these dark times where mean people lurk around every corner
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Hero-troop picard gives america a much needed message of hope, in these dark times where mean people lurk around every corner These mean people... do they suck?
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watched the 2012 les miserables because we were talking about the book here, what an exhausting movie. the revolution stuff was all pretty good, but then marius goes and gets married to the rich girl and gets rich himself, and then the movie just sort of ends. i know that's basically how the source goes too, but it seemed like the last hour just zipped by after the first two crawled, and then it was over.,
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Zvahl posted:I'm not entirely through A Little Hatred yet, but yes, it depends on the former books enough that I'd say I would want to read them first. How is Joe as a writer these days? The OG trilogy was a little shakey craft wise but it feels like each of the 3 standalone was better written than the last. I havent read his YA fiction or more recent short story collection.
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