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Jewel Staite and Nathan Fillion are both extremly attractive. That's about the only good thing that can be said.
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Jan 29, 2020 12:59
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Firefly was v. fun and good actually.
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Jan 29, 2020 13:18
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Whedon’s great skill was to toy with but ultimately respect and perpetuate the ironclad tv conventions of pre-prestige era tv. He’d toy with naming a character in the opening credits and the killing them in the first episode because doing that would be breaking the rules of tv. Yet he could never truly innovate or leave the rules behind. He was truly made for the 90s.
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Jan 29, 2020 14:47
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I blame this for creating a new generation of irritating dorks who won’t shut up about how there should be no sound in space in every piece of sci-fi media that comes out
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Jan 29, 2020 15:47
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They were there long before Firefly. I remember High School in the 90s talking about the sound in space in Star Wars, and arguments that there was clearly some system marking the movements of nearby vessels with sound in the cockpits so the pilots and gunners could use their sense of hearing as well as sight.
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Jan 29, 2020 17:42
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The theme song may be the worst TV theme song of all time
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The high point of Serenity is when the reaver ships show up one of them is literally an ork cruiser design stolen from battlefleet gothicBig Dick Cheney posted:The theme song may be the worst TV theme song of all time This is also true
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Jan 29, 2020 17:57
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the best firefly episode was the Battlestar Galactica miniseries where the ship from Firefly briefly appears in the background for half a second
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Jan 29, 2020 18:01
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Big Dick Cheney posted:The theme song may be the worst TV theme song of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnTZREMEJI
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Jan 29, 2020 18:13
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Servetus posted:They were there long before Firefly. the weird rear end sound design of the seismic charges in ep2 wrecks that argument imo
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Roman Reigns posted:I blame this for creating a new generation of irritating dorks who won’t shut up about how there should be no sound in space in every piece of sci-fi media that comes out Hi, hello yes we existed long before Firefly. Which is one of the reasons why I will always say that people should watch Robot Jox as it's fun to watch and doesn't have sound in space. Also I just rewatched the first ep last night after someone itt said they couldn't finish it and it was fine.
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Xaris posted:Eh, mid 90s through early 2000s TV was a loving wasteland, so it was significantly above average for 2002, but yes now that there's so much good poo poo out there it's not worth watching at all. and any holder-on fandoms are loving broke as hell Exactly. It can't be overstated how loving terrible television was at the time and how in that context Joss Whedon could be considered a visionary rather than a tiresome hack but this show has not aged well at all and isn't worth the lamentations
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Jan 29, 2020 18:49
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2002 was near the height of The Sopranos, Oz was on and Enterprise was hitting its stride. The times are absolutely no excuse.
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Servetus posted:They were there long before Firefly. CainFortea posted:Hi, hello yes we existed long before Firefly. This is why I said new generation. It seemed like the show gave sci-fi fans at the time awareness of it and was one of the things the show was praised for. Robot Jox is good though.
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Jan 29, 2020 19:53
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The joke is Joss heard this and decided to copy it.
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Jan 29, 2020 23:28
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well why not posted:2002 was near the height of The Sopranos, Oz was on and Enterprise was hitting its stride. The times are absolutely no excuse. We didn't have HBO and the first season of Enterprise was so bad we didn't watch any follow-up seasons. Firefly was better than Enterprise s1 tho
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CainFortea posted:Hi, hello yes we existed long before Firefly. Which is one of the reasons why I will always say that people should watch Robot Jox as it's fun to watch and doesn't have sound in space. i like how the expanse plays the physics more or less straight but still has sound in space just because it's cool
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StashAugustine posted:i like how the expanse plays the physics more or less straight but still has sound in space just because it's cool I don't.  I also lost interest in The Expanse after season 3 I think? Something about venus.
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Jan 30, 2020 00:27
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the music was pretty and I have listened to the ots a few times as I do chores. Alan Tudyk is great as Wash, he's good in most everything he's in.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:15
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Big Dick Cheney posted:The theme song may be the worst TV theme song of all time
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The theme is whatever (It’s country which is at least novel is to me) but it’s definitely not worse than Enterprise’s theme which has the double pronged attack of being poo poo and also INSANELY catchy.
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Has anyone else noticed that apart from Teen Jedi girl and Ultimate Tomboy Girl Next Door Trope, every other attractive woman in the show is a prostitute?
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Don Dongington posted:Has anyone else noticed that apart from Teen Jedi girl and Ultimate Tomboy Girl Next Door Trope, every other attractive woman in the show is a prostitute? What have you got against grandmas?
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Jan 30, 2020 06:49
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CainFortea posted:What have you got against grandmas? How do you say "Okay Boomer" in Cantonese? Oh I also forgot Amazonian Sidekick. I guess that's just my brain trying to do a service to Gina Torres by forgetting she was even part of this shitshow. In fairness, her character isn't actually a terrible gender stereotype, and I can't really fault her or Wash's characters at all.
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The best bit is when joss has a prostitute constantly disrespected by the hero of the show but it’s ok because he secretly loves her but it’s never resolved and her only part in the movie is considering suicide in the face of gang rape Joss Whedon - Feminist
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Jan 30, 2020 07:21
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When he was trying to sell people on being in Dollhouse, was he just like “it’s a lighthearted sci-fi adventure show! You play a braindead whore who sucks and fucks in every episode!”
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Jan 30, 2020 13:03
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dollhouse should face jumped into the whole faintly transhuman cyberpunk thing from the start instead of having so many ghastly “ladyrental of the week” eps
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Jan 30, 2020 13:08
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It led with sci-fi horny instead of following the proud sci-fi tradition of shoehorning horny into an adventure premise. The apocalyptic future did have Scott Farkus from Christmas Story as a main character, though.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:When he was trying to sell people on being in Dollhouse, was he just like “it’s a lighthearted sci-fi adventure show! You play a braindead whore who sucks and fucks in every episode!” seems like a creepy guy
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Jan 30, 2020 16:19
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well why not posted:The best bit is when joss has a prostitute constantly disrespected by the hero of the show but it’s ok because he secretly loves her but it’s never resolved and her only part in the movie is considering suicide in the face of gang rape “She doesn’t like it when I call her a WHORE,” quips the hero as she stares at him indignantly. Yeah even back when I liked the show I thought that was awful, and it made no sense that she still stuck around anyway.
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Roman Reigns posted:“She doesn’t like it when I call her a WHORE,” quips the hero as she stares at him indignantly. It’s because they were secretly in love with each other. Isn’t that so sweet?
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well why not posted:The best bit is when joss has a prostitute constantly disrespected by the hero of the show but it’s ok because he secretly loves her but it’s never resolved and her only part in the movie is considering suicide in the face of gang rape Lol you think that’s bad: quote:Executive producer Tim Minear explained about one episode that Joss Whedon pitched early on: Source: https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-firefly-episode-were-really-glad-joss-whedon-didnt-5959794
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lmao every time I see that it's worse than I remember how do you write such strong female characters Joss? howd you do it??
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Jan 30, 2020 21:57
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Seems like somebody should look into this guy before the moneybag freaks let him make some more lovely nerd movies
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Jan 30, 2020 22:01
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lol i forgot that he'd actually led with that story on the pitch. gently caress josh whedon
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Jan 30, 2020 22:29
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jesus loving christ
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Jan 30, 2020 22:53
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also every time i see this book on the shelves i want to kill myself:
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Chrs posted:Lol you think that’s bad: jfc
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