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H110Hawk posted:Normal operating procedure is to use the cat5. What is your goal here by ripping out perfectly good wire? If we're talking about pre-existing wire pulled through a house, then you're probably stuck because they most likely pulled the cable raw through the bare walls without using conduit - which means that if you tried to use the old cable to pull the new, you're going to hit a snag around a corner and lose the cable in the wall. H110Hawk posted:(toolless keystones) Oh and those monoprice ones are garbage. pretty much all toolless jacks I've encountered have been terrible regardless of maker. The standard punchdown (tool required) jacks from Monoprice are fine, but if we're talking about doing your own house you might as well just pay the little extra for some Leviton jacks and a cheap punchdown tool. Heners_UK posted:Also, while we're on the subject, does anyone have a good guide to pulling cables if you've never done it before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4XhdWIqK0
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Anyone use Untangle? I have it installed on a 1u server and it's been running inline for a couple weeks and I like it but wanted some other opinions before I drop the money on it.
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BlackMK4 posted:If you're rack mount do you just mount a rack to the wall above the box? You could do a rack if you care about appearance, or you could mount a piece of plywood on your wall then screw the equipment onto that by rotating the rack ears 90 degrees (doesn't work for all rack ears, check yours out first). Wouldn't recommend server hardware being mounted as such, but 1u networking hardware is relatively light weight.
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H110Hawk posted:Normal operating procedure is to use the cat5. What is your goal here by ripping out perfectly good wire? I'll check what is printed on the wire when I stop by the place later today. I plan on running gbit for most and some 10gbe, which I figured meant I would be repulling some of the wire, but maybe that was wrong. I think my biggest apprehension about this is that the Ubiquiti stuff runs fairly hot and I live in Arizona. I am mostly worried about leaving the POE switch, router, and modem in the garage and it overheating. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 17:54
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BlackMK4 posted:I think my biggest apprehension about this is that the Ubiquiti stuff runs fairly hot and I live in Arizona. I am mostly worried about leaving the POE switch, router, and modem in the garage and it overheating. All of my gear lives in my garage and it's been fine.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:57
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BlackMK4 posted:I'll check what is printed on the wire when I stop by the place later today. I plan on running gbit for most and some 10gbe, which I figured meant I would be repulling some of the wire, but maybe that was wrong. Check the specs on the Ubiquiti website. They've got the min-max operating temperatures listed for all of their equipment. For their standard stuff, an unconditioned garage that hits triple digits might not be ideal. They do have "industrial" rated switches that handle up to 140F though.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:59
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BlackMK4 posted:I think my biggest apprehension about this is that the Ubiquiti stuff runs fairly hot and I live in Arizona. I am mostly worried about leaving the POE switch, router, and modem in the garage and it overheating. Some cheap USB fans can help with airflow if you can power them.
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FCKGW posted:Anyone use Untangle? I have it installed on a 1u server and it's been running inline for a couple weeks and I like it but wanted some other opinions before I drop the money on it. Why not just use Opnsense for free?
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IOwnCalculus posted:All of my gear lives in my garage and it's been fine. Sold. Thank you, IOC  Heners_UK posted:Some cheap USB fans can help with airflow if you can power them. Good calll, I'll see what I'm working with. n0tqu1tesane posted:Check the specs on the Ubiquiti website. They've got the min-max operating temperatures listed for all of their equipment. Looks like 113f is the lowest for what I have. I think that'll get me through all but a couple months of summer, though maybe this garage will be a little cooler than what I am used to.
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Also don’t just use the entire 1u server as a router, install esxi and install whatever router software you want as a VM. That way you can use it for other VMs and services as well.
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BlackMK4 posted:I'll check what is printed on the wire when I stop by the place later today. I plan on running gbit for most and some 10gbe, which I figured meant I would be repulling some of the wire, but maybe that was wrong. For 10gbe on a long pull with lovely gear yes you will likely wind up repulling, but you're going to more likely lose the wire in the wall. If it's a straight vertical pull and you attach the two wires together extraordinarily well it will likely work assuming nothing at all sharp is near it to rub the sheathing off. If you have a short run (think <50meters) I would test even base cat5 (which tends to qualify as cat5e even if it wasn't at the factory) at 10gbe using iperf3. You might be surprised at what you get. You will want high quality terminations everywhere and brand name nics pushing it. If it doesn't work out I would give up quickly. Dumb question: Why 10g?  (For iperf you will want to make sure you're doing it bidirectionally with multiple threads for multiple minutes and watch your CPU usage during the test. You don't want to wind up with 1 cpu core pegged at 100% and iperf saying it's only able to get 800mbps or something dumb. All of your cpu cores should be well utilized to get an accurate test if you're going below line rate.)
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For what it's worth, my Mac Mini has no problem at 10gb full duplex on 10 year old cat5e, connecting to a UniFi switch. I was sure I'd have to re-pull!
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BlackMK4 posted:Sold. Thank you, IOC I mean, I fully expect that at some point some device will die sooner than it normally would have. But so far the only component failure I've had has been a fan in the cheap Thinkpad I'm using as a container host / backup storage, and I can't exactly fault that considering laptops aren't meant to run 24x7.
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redeyes posted:Why not just use Opnsense for free? I tried it in a VM and didn't really like the configurations compared to Untangle. I'll throw it in a VM and give it another week and see if it changes my mind. devmd01 posted:Also don’t just use the entire 1u server as a router, install esxi and install whatever router software you want as a VM. That way you can use it for other VMs and services as well. I have another Unraid server dedicated for storage and my other VMs. I wanted specifically a single device running the network so I could take down the server without disrupting the internet.
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Sometimes ServeTheHome does their 10gbe tests with Cat5e and gets good speeds. I guess their thinking is that in older buildings that’s probably what’s been pulled so good to test SMB equipment with it.
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Went and looked, it is cat5e, fortunately. Gonna order a patch panel and some keystones and I can go from there As far as why 10gbe, it is one of those Why Not?, I already run it where I am living now, may as well carry it over
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BlackMK4 posted:Went and looked, it is cat5e, fortunately. Gonna order a patch panel and some keystones and I can go from there  Good luck. It's all the same-ish amount of work to try it with cat5e. If it doesn't work you're out the time it took you to punch down and validate.
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You should always run Cat 6 in a modern home/whatever if you have the choice.
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I want it so that requests to a specific domain name are routed to a machine on my local network. What sort of network operation is this, and is it worth flashing something like Tomato onto my R7000 for more router controls (and a working firmware I can SSH into and do whatever)? Basically, I'm still working on my IoT thing. The devices talk to a server whose domain name is hardcoded. I want to see if I can just tell everything on my network that yes, everything on api.othersite.com is totally actually on 192.168.1.13.
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Thanks Ants posted:You need anything that supports being a DNS server So... an old thinkpad running some flavor of Linux should do the trick?
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Protocol7 posted:So... an old thinkpad running some flavor of Linux should do the trick? Yup - could go even more low powered if you wanted, like a raspberry pi. You'll just need to adjust the DHCP settings on your router to point your devices to the DNS server.
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Actuarial Fables posted:Yup - could go even more low powered if you wanted, like a raspberry pi. You'll just need to adjust the DHCP settings on your router to point your devices to the DNS server. Ok, that should be easy enough. Setting up Bind9 on my thinkpad now. Hey, that was easy enough. Bind9 set up and nslookup requests to api.othersite.com are redirected to another machine on the network, but all other requests are simply just forwarded to Google's DNS servers (and cached, of course.) Macichne Leainig fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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drat, Ubiquiti is really going for the Airport aesthetic with this Dream Machine, the box is identical. There's literally no instructions inside which seems not great but the thing definitely works and there are a shitton of options in here. Hell yeah.
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I'm considering helping a couple of friends out with a solution to their problem. Router/modem is on second story of house. They're literal basement dwellers. They mainly want something for their Xboxes. I'm thinking of a powerline setup then a basic 4 port switch in the Dwelling Is that gonna work for what I want ? Could I pop a wireless repeater on that for them for their devices so their phones etc are good too? Something wifi6 Worf fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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Statutory Ape posted:I'm considering helping a couple of friends out with a solution to their problem. Router/modem is on second story of house. They're literal basement dwellers. If they can't run a cable, then powerline is probably the 2nd best solution for this - just test it out first. Instead of doing a wireless repeater, I'd just go with a 2nd access point broadcasting the same SSID as the router so that they don't have to mess with WiFi settings each time they move around the house.
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Ok cool yeah that's good advice glad I asked, thank you very much. If they don't care about that functionality would the simple 4 port switch concept work "as intended" or whatever , just a cat cable to each Xbox manually at that point
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Yes - hooking up a switch to a powerline adapter would function the same as though you connected the switch to the router (technical differences aside), so the xboxes connected to the switch would all be able to reach out to the internet.
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Awesome thanks a ton. I only really know a few people so they might as well be LPBs like me
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Statutory Ape posted:Ok cool yeah that's good advice glad I asked, thank you very much. If they don't care about that functionality would the simple 4 port switch concept work "as intended" or whatever , just a cat cable to each Xbox manually at that point I'd recommend going with an 8-port switch for the basement, though. With a 4-port, you've got your uplink, two xboxes, and one last port that you're probably putting an AP on for wifi coverage. This doesn't leave them spare ports for any other devices that might want wired connectivity or any room for future growth. Also, make sure it's a gigabit switch and not 'fast' (10/100) ethernet.
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Trying to get better WiFi in two upstairs bedrooms so I can play 4K bluray remux films in them via Plex - I understand the bitrate on those files can spike to 160Mbit/s+ in heavy action scenes. Running an RT-AC87U with Merlin custom firmware. It's in a downstairs room that's quite far away. I only get about 30-60Mbit/s in the bedrooms on 5G. There's a cat5e cable that runs from the router to a different downstairs room that's closer to the upstairs bedrooms. I bought a Ubiquiti Unifi NanoHD to use there which arrived today. Disabled the RT-AC87U wifi, and using the NanoHD for wifi, I'm actually getting worse speeds (15-30Mbit/s in the bedrooms). Tried moving the NanoHD around a bit in that room but no luck. Did a scan and I manually set the 2.4 and 5G onto channels with minimal interfence (I think?) but still terrible speeds in the bedrooms. I reckon the NanoHD is working okay as I get 400-550Mbit/s on a laptop that's in the same room as the NanoHD. Does anyone have any ideas? I feel a little out of my depth. Perhaps the ceiling and walls are too thick and I'm hoping for too much. It would be a real pain running cat6 from the downstairs to the upstairs so I'm trying to avoid that if possible. One potential solution if I have to spend more money: the room with the RT-AC87U is connected to one of the upstairs bedrooms with what I think is coaxial cable installed ~25 years ago. It was for a LAN back in the day. I think it's 10Base-Something if that helps? I've taken a picture of the cable and one of the end-connectors. Would using two of these work? Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/Actiontec-Electronics-ECB6200S02-Bonded-Moca/dp/B013J7OBUU . If that would create a hardline, I could perhaps move the NanoHD into the bedroom. Any help is appreciated.
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The Ubiquiti defaults are aimed at business environments and not optimized for speed but stability. The HD series stands for "high density" and is intended for a lot of users getting a decent experience, not one user getting speed. You will have to adjust the settings accordingly yourself.
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Lusername posted:One potential solution if I have to spend more money: the room with the RT-AC87U is connected to one of the upstairs bedrooms with what I think is coaxial cable installed ~25 years ago. It was for a LAN back in the day. I think it's 10Base-Something if that helps? I've taken a picture of the cable and one of the end-connectors. Would using two of these work? Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/Actiontec-Electronics-ECB6200S02-Bonded-Moca/dp/B013J7OBUU . If that would create a hardline, I could perhaps move the NanoHD into the bedroom. You'd want to check if that can use 50ohm RG58. It's probably designed for 75ohm RG59 / RG6.
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Thanks for the info guys, and for the heads-up. I've emailed them about RG58 compatibility. I've tried adjusting various NanoHD settings I've found from googling but the bedroom speeds are still terrible. Fair enough as I suppose I'm using it to solve a problem it wasn't designed for. I might try using another consumer router as an access point there (Asus or whatever is good these days) in case that fares better.
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Lusername posted:Thanks for the info guys, and for the heads-up. I've emailed them about RG58 compatibility. The nanohd should provide you with a ton of speed. If it's not you're not going to get better results with a consumer router. Mine blankets my house and yard. They have plenty of juice to handle your needs, the trick is getting the signal where it needs to go. Your router is being used as a switch I assume? I would try buying a $40 netgear switch and see if that helps. Modem - > Wan, lan-> switch, switch to everything. 2 total cables into the router. Do you have a wifi signal analyzer? Mac has a good one in the app store. Can tell you exactly what the signal is and if it's even the problem.
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H110Hawk posted:Do you have a wifi signal analyzer? Mac has a good one in the app store. Can tell you exactly what the signal is and if it's even the problem. Whoa ho, I didn't know there was a company named Mac that does wi-fi signal analysis. Since you say 'a good one,' I'm figuring it's this one: https://apps.apple.com/app/wifi-signal/id525912054 Sorry to be so salty, but that description is so vague I thought it was a joke. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Binary Badger posted:Whoa ho, I didn't know there was a company named Mac that does wi-fi signal analysis. Thanks buddy! That is indeed the one I wanted but my baby exploded as I got to the end of that post.
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H110Hawk posted:Thanks buddy! That is indeed the one I wanted but my baby exploded as I got to the end of that post. I know the feeling. I still feel like Nicolas Cage in "Raising Arizona" running down a road in the middle of the night clutching a sack of Huggies, even though my oldest graduated college.
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Lusername posted:Trying to get better WiFi in two upstairs bedrooms so I can play 4K bluray remux films in them via Plex - I understand the bitrate on those files can spike to 160Mbit/s+ in heavy action scenes.
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