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Sandepande posted:I'd believe it if Google was paying them to do so. *Poor project management, intentional crunch, etc.
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quote:Ars Technica judging Stadia's success based off of how many people got into free Thumper is a low blow. quote:who would play Destiny 2 when its convoluted and confusing for new players? quote:Thumper is shite. Not a chance it should be used as a benchmark for Stadia’s success. That’s solely on the game studio for pushing out a shiny version of an old Commodore 64 game with less personality.
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Khablam posted:Stadia's player-count now, more often than not, rounds to 0% on Destiny stats sites: https://warmind.io/activity Man the negativity in here. Why can't we be positive about Stadia, the tech is so great, no hardware guys, remember? Its just a beta remember? I'm playing right now from the bow of a small gillnet fishing boat off the coast of Labrador. EVERYTHING IS FINE OK!?!!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Thumper  at the collective blind spot at realizing these are comparing numbers 1:1 with platforms that have libraries larger than 30 games. Users on PS4 and iOS aren't exactly starved for choice. If anything, Stadia should have a larger % of users playing Thumper because it was "free" and there's not really anything else like it in its library.Also, Thumper is a very, very good game.
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Tempura Wizard posted:Just Wait, Thumper's a rhythm game isn't it? Demand precision timing and accuracy, presumably?...
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quote:Stadia would be perfect for people in countries like Vietnam, Thailand etc. with cheap great internet but no money to buy consoles/high-end PCs quote:IDK, I prefer paying full price for buying a game to having hot sales, but investing upwards 500$ a year on average to keep a PC to gaming standards. quote:Activision Blizzard+Youtube gaming : Overwatch on Stadia ? quote:I'm thinking it might be possible that Google started barebones and with a slow feature rollout because: quote:Made A Virgin’s day Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Wait, Thumper's a rhythm game isn't it? Demand precision timing and accuracy, presumably?... They massively increased the button press window to get it to be playable.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What is the chance that Cyberpunk does not launch the same day on stadia that console and pc No the question is, what are the chances that Stadia makes some type of admitting-we're-dead announcement before cyberpunk launches? something along the lines of "We hear you, Stadia is going back into beta until we can deliver the features our audience wants. Founders and existing users can keep playing the games they own during this period, but the store is closed until we are ready with Stadia 2.0" Neddy Seagoon posted:Wait, Thumper's a rhythm game isn't it? Demand precision timing and accuracy, presumably?... On other platforms it does. On stadia the timing windows are so wide that you can hit the button after you hit the obstacle and still go through.
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Flayer posted:It would have to be an absurd amount to delay release. The Witcher series has been hugely profitable and 2077 has been in development for 5 years - CDPR do not need Google to make money. Yeah. Not exactly believeable.
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Klyith posted:No the question is, what are the chances that Stadia makes some type of admitting-we're-dead announcement before cyberpunk launches? 0. They'll probably just cut their losses and get out. Plus the consumer impact if they did that? It would brand Stadia as fundamentally not ready for prime time, piss a lot of people off, scare developers from working with Google, and put a ton of pressure on a relaunch that is going to compete with a bunch of new consoles. And at that point, why would someone go with the platform that just had a history of closing itself and keeping you from getting new games over Sony and Microsoft. Google would need to hit it out of the park. They're going to need a massive groundbreaking hit. They can't just settle for the promise of something better, they have to deliver.
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Glad to see stadia made a virgin's day. Stadia fucks.
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Cemetry Gator posted:0. They'll probably just cut their losses and get out. Plus the consumer impact if they did that? It would brand Stadia as fundamentally not ready for prime time, piss a lot of people off, scare developers from working with Google, and put a ton of pressure on a relaunch that is going to compete with a bunch of new consoles. I think any kind of big public announcement within the next year - whether it's a "we're temporarily going down to retool", or a "we're getting out of the business completely" - is a lot less likely than just quietly halting all progress and leaving it as-is for a year or two, then shutting it off once everyone's forgotten about it. It would be extremely Google to never roll out the basic tier, give up on pursuing new games and expanding the platform to new devices, leave the servers on for a year or two to save face and collect some fees from a handful of Pro tier users that want to keep playing their games, and then put up a blogpost somewhere announcing the impending cessation of Stadia Pro subscriptions.
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Just over here laughing because Stadia is in such dire straights they have their own members giving sales pitches for people to play Destiny 2 on it. It’s such a novelty thing - I have a Steam Link and use it for party games or when I got a group of people wanting to take turns playing a game in a larger setting, rather than sitting at my computer desk around a small screen. I never once thought that having a Link would make my gaming easier, and I wouldn’t get a Stadia to do all of that either. There’s not a game I play where I’d have the need to play when either I’m out of the house or away on a trip. I’ve got a bevy of mobile games that are quick to play to bleed off the few minutes where maybe I’m in the waiting room at the dentist or as a passenger in a car. Now, for people that maybe can’t afford a gaming PC or console - do they have the ability to afford the internet connection needed for smooth gameplay? Probably not. Also the Stadia dad mentality should be shamed relentlessly to remind them they’re supposed to be bonding with family rather than sneaking away.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Glad to see stadia made a virgin's day. Videogames, please close the xbox thread, this thread, and open a new common thread called "The Virgin Stadia, The Chad Xbox"
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Blotto_Otter posted:I think any kind of big public announcement within the next year - whether it's a "we're temporarily going down to retool", or a "we're getting out of the business completely" - is a lot less likely than just quietly halting all progress and leaving it as-is for a year or two, then shutting it off once everyone's forgotten about it. It would be extremely Google to never roll out the basic tier, give up on pursuing new games and expanding the platform to new devices, leave the servers on for a year or two to save face and collect some fees from a handful of Pro tier users that want to keep playing their games, and then put up a blogpost somewhere announcing the impending cessation of Stadia Pro subscriptions. They can't do a quick retool announcement when a chunk of the development->launch staff have already left for other projects. Stadia team has significant vacancies. The post-launch exodus is already in full swing. Now google is dumb enough to think they can fake retooling and just keep the same awful business model because their current base of morons loves it, but they don't have the time or people to actually make new features and make it a reasonable value. The great thing about Stadia is that its heavily resource intensive for both systems and staffing and every game patch brings new potential halting problems on their end, so they cant leave it out to wither on the vine with nobody bothering to keep tabs on it like the did with Finance.Google.com. They have to axe it much sooner than they normally would on the google failed product timeline. Also, their current highly visible 0% market share means the team is now all pariahs with that stadia stink on them so nobody with good ideas is going to risk their career on giving Stadia CPR. They'll axe it closer to next tuesday than they would in a year or two.
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The thing a lot of these "it's okay that they're poo poo right now, look at these other juggernauts that were poo poo than they started" things don't understand is that the situation has changed and the bar has been raised. YouTube could launch in that state and add features over time because watching videos like that was still a fairly new thing, and it persists out of sheer inertia: it attracts more users because that's where the users already are. Stadia's not launching into a vacuum, it has to compete with the offerings of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. Breaking into the market is bloody and expensive, and Google won't stick it out, it's just another "oh we didn't immediately overthrow the entrenched establishment, ABANDON EVERYTHING, FULL RETREAT" project. I mean, hell, Epic Game Launcher is by all accounts awful, but they at least understand that they need to flex if they want to break into the market, which is why they're buying up exclusives.
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shadow puppet of a posted:They can't do a quick retool announcement when a chunk of the development->launch staff have already left for other projects. Stadia team has significant vacancies. The post-launch exodus is already in full swing. Now google is dumb enough to think they can fake retooling and just keep the same awful business model because their current base of morons loves it, but they don't have the time or people to actually make new features and make it a reasonable value. Literally everything about this post is wrong.
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hostile apostle posted:Literally everything about this post is wrong.
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hostile apostle posted:Literally everything about this post is wrong. Welcome back!
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I'll never understand people who will compare something now with something that happened a long time ago. We're not competing with the past, we're competing with what's out there. I feel like I used to see this often with the "surely THIS is the next wow killer" mentality. Well, you're not competing with WoW of 2004, your MMO needs to not only have all the QoL that has come out since then but a ton of content as well. Or it needs to be unique enough that it can stand on its own.
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cams posted:how do you know He is an expert in posting things that are wrong
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Who the gently caress is spending $500 a year to keep their PC "up to gaming standards" like are they literally throwing last year's PC in the trash every year hostile apostle posted:Literally everything about this post is wrong. I gotta say it's so nice to see someone standing in the shoes once filled by such legends as XboxPants, grand acolyte of the Ouya and invoker of such phrases as "half as successful as the original Playstation." raditts fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Tech companies are always advertising positions they are not intending to fill, having a lot of open positions to fill gives the appearance of growth.
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raditts posted:Who the gently caress is spending $500 a year to keep their PC "up to gaming standards" It’s just a lie I guess. Nvidia’s cards and Intel’s CPUs from 4-5 years ago are all still capable of running modern games at high details at 1080p60. I typically buy the expensive dumb poo poo and even I’m sticking with the 1080Ti for another year or two.
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https://twitter.com/ShugoWah/status/1223052056765849601 lamo
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raditts posted:Who the gently caress is spending $500 a year to keep their PC "up to gaming standards" Averaging $500 a year is easy for people that buy higher-end stuff and upgrade frequently to stay near top performance. Even if they're selling stuff off on ebay later. It's dumb and not the best value for your money but there are always people who have to have the latest and greatest. Take a look at the GPU thread in SHSC sometime, there are a bunch of dudes in there who will unironically say having anything less than a 2080 makes games unplayable. (And when the 3080 comes out it will immediately become the new can't-have-anything-less even if new games aren't out.) I'm a much more budget-conscious guy and I still probably spend like $300 a year on average for PC hardware (including monitors, peripherals, etc). The thing is, a PC is more than a game console. Even if I played zero games on PC, I'd still want a moderately decent system for everything else I do. Like I'd cut out the $$$ video card and have a smaller SSD, but everything else I'd want about the same.
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User replies to post about a lack of games on Stadia launch (this is all same user)quote:Ps4 had 12 games available in Canada for months when it's came out lol. quote:Switch also had very few games available on the first few months. quote:I tried Zelda and it's was not bad. Not a game I like I preferred red dead redemption 2 much more. quote:I don't care about exclusive much. quote:Seriously tired of lil hater with no arguments that hold stadia to standard no others console was forced to follow.
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lol I call total BS on the person playing flawlessly on 4G in Canadacams posted:how do you know he's paid to say otherwise
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quote:Google hired an executive to lead this development (Phil Harrison) who comes with decades of experience in the industry. Phil has led many successful efforts (PlayStation) and he has also been involved in some bombs (Gaikai).
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reddit posted:I don't care about exclusive much. Tipps posted:It's like watching a rerun of GameFAQs forum posts from 2005.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:User replies to post about a lack of games on Stadia launch (this is all same user) The thing is not the number of games. That's not the problem. The problem is that there are no upcoming games until March. I wish these Stadia apostles would see that.
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Klyith posted:Averaging $500 a year is easy for people that buy higher-end stuff and upgrade frequently to stay near top performance. Even if they're selling stuff off on ebay later. It's dumb and not the best value for your money but there are always people who have to have the latest and greatest. Take a look at the GPU thread in SHSC sometime, there are a bunch of dudes in there who will unironically say having anything less than a 2080 makes games unplayable. (And when the 3080 comes out it will immediately become the new can't-have-anything-less even if new games aren't out.) how do you spend $300 a year for a budget pc
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Cemetry Gator posted:The thing is not the number of games. That's not the problem. The problem is that there are no upcoming games until March. I wish these Stadia apostles would see that. Uh, you're forgetting about Monster Energy Motocross 3 released in February
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leftist heap posted:Uh, you're forgetting about Monster Energy Motocross 3 released in February I stand by my initial assertion.
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Stux posted:how do you spend $300 a year for a budget pc It's not a budget PC, I'm a budget-conscious spender. As in, I buy a $300 video card every ~3 years rather than a $600 one every other year. The PC itself tends to be what I'd call mid-range. OTOH even a budget games PC requires a non-trivial amount of money per year when you average it out. Maybe $100-150 for people who want to play AAA all the time? But it can vary a lot based on what's happening in the hardware world when you buy. People who bought $250 intel CPUs with 4 cores just before the ryzen launch got hosed on the deal and are having to think about upgrades already.
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Klyith posted:It's not a budget PC, I'm a budget-conscious spender. As in, I buy a $300 video card every ~3 years rather than a $600 one every other year. The PC itself tends to be what I'd call mid-range. i dont know, i feel like everything kind of lasts a lot longer now than before and that you can get a lot more for less, especially if you go in with a money saving mindset. yeah people who dropped $250 for a 4/4 i5 just before they moved to 6 core are probably sore but when i bought a cpu last year i didnt even bother looking at new, i just grabbed a used 6700k off ebay for like £150. the biggest part of my pc now is a new 1660ti that i got as a present but if it had been my money i probably wouldve just picked up a used 1070 and saved another £50-70. the pc runs near everything at 1080p maxed out except the handful of games with extreme top end settings and its probably going to be fine without any upgrades for a good while. id say thats midrange and anything higher is getting into a pretty high end build.
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