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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The filmmakers wouldn't have to take a questionable approach if they had bothered to establish literally any reason to care about the targets of the Starkiller Base to begin with. If we had a viewpoint character to empathize with or just even people we know getting killed, that gets the job done. JJ resorts to Finn watching the laser fly by because he needs to in order to attach any emotion to the occasion at all. Oh, I agree. Starkiller Base essentially pops up out of nowhere in the narrative and we're expected to care because it poorly parallels the Death Star.
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feedmyleg posted:As a person who is terrible at video games, I have less than zero interest in getting killed over and over again by a bunch of racist 12 year olds in a mindless deathmatch. I want a neat interactive story with some doodads to collect between cool setpieces. I figure there's got to be as many people like me out there as there are people who just want to prove to a bunch of semi-anonymous strangers how good their fast-twitch muscle control is.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:A previously unknown consequence of the firing of the Starkiller Weapon was the destabilization of causality and distance. Is someone playing with Improbability drive again?
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PeterWeller posted:Oh, I agree. Starkiller Base essentially pops up out of nowhere in the narrative and we're expected to care because it poorly parallels the Death Star. Originally, The Force Awakens was about FN joining a mission to blow up Starkiller Base, with Luke's appearance at the end being a twist. Instead, they edited the film to remove the twist and spoil Luke's appearance in the first line of the opening crawl - just like with Palpatine. Luke Skywalker is missing! Sheev Palpatine is no longer missing! It's like poetry, etc.
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Halloween Jack posted:What about an open world where you can travel to dozens of basically identical planets, fight thousands of the same five enemies, and collect kyber crystals until you have millions of them and you trade them for fuel? Plus microtransactions if you want to do it all faster. They don’t care, don’t bother.
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2house2fly posted:https://twitter.com/ikolism/status/1222513603087077381?s=20 This is some Coldsteel the Hedgehog poo poo, and I loving love it
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2house2fly posted:Iirc the bounty hunters scene is important; Vader willingly puts himself among the "scum" the Empire disdains and gets on noticeably better with Boba Fett than he does with his own admirals He gets on better with Fett because Fett is irrelevant to him in terms of being a threat. Every last one of "his admirals" would gleefully backstab if they thought they had a ghost of a chance of taking his place as the Emperor's 2IC.
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Everyone posted:He gets on better with Fett because Fett is irrelevant to him in terms of being a threat. Every last one of "his admirals" would gleefully backstab if they thought they had a ghost of a chance of taking his place as the Emperor's 2IC. Yet Fett is one of the few dudes who could actually push Vader in a fight while the admirals are force choked to death
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Vader keeps Piett alive at the end of Empire, despite Piett clearly making GBS threads his pants after the Falcon escapes.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Yet Fett is one of the few dudes who could actually push Vader in a fight while the admirals are force choked to death Boba is a terrible shot and hand to hand fighter Doctor Spaceman posted:Vader keeps Piett alive at the end of Empire, despite Piett clearly making GBS threads his pants after the Falcon escapes. He's preoccupied, thinking about his son. Piett got lucky
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Blood Boils posted:Boba is a terrible shot and hand to hand fighter Eh, we only see him fight the main characters. Of course he isn't going to have much of a body count.
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Everyone posted:He gets on better with Fett because Fett is irrelevant to him in terms of being a threat. Every last one of "his admirals" would gleefully backstab if they thought they had a ghost of a chance of taking his place as the Emperor's 2IC. Sure, but like I alluded to before I think Vader has a level of respect for competency and skills. In a fleeting thought he probably thinks Piett is fairly decent, follows his wishes and doesn't argue like that first admiral did with the shield generator. That obviously pissed him off.
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My read with Piett is that any other day, he’s dead for letting the Falcon get away there, but Vader is so shaken and out of sorts from his confrontation with Luke that he barely even notices him. That’s the whole point- the rest of the movie shows what a normal day at the office is like for Vader, and at least for that moment at the end, he’s not in a place to go back to business as usually.
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I respect your point. I look at it from a corporate perspective. Vader figures out that force choking everyone he wants would get to the point where the Star Destroyer janitor is promoted to admiral. He's a pragmatist and realizes to lay off the stuff. Sure he is distraught, probably had a fleeting thought of shitcanning Piett then realized Lando hosed him over. His own hubris on trying to make a deal then alter it was his true downfall.
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Third beat in a gag. He kills Ozzel onscreen (literally), kills Needa offscreen with a one-liner, and then with Piett he can't even be bothered. Shoutout to that one engineer type that dares to turn his head and watch vader stomp off
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Fett gets owned continually through the series, culminating in one of the least ceremonious deaths in the franchise. Part of The Mandalorian existing seems to be to rehabilitate the image of Mandalorian bounty hunters, who were meant to be cool but accidentally ended up poo poo. Mando isn’t unstoppable but he’s scrappy and resourceful, particularly if he has a bit of prep time. If they do anything with Fett in the future it’ll be exactly the same.
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well why not posted:Fett gets owned continually through the series, culminating in one of the least ceremonious deaths in the franchise. He's only in two fights, and he escapes one of them with everything he wanted
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Cloud City barely counts as a fight. He takes some pot shots at Luke and hustles off to his ship.
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Fett passes up capturing 3 of the most wanted rebels cuz he sucks. If he was so good hed capture leia and chewie
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Colostomy Bag posted:I respect your point. I look at it from a corporate perspective. Vader figures out that force choking everyone he wants would get to the point where the Star Destroyer janitor is promoted to admiral. IIRC it's mentioned in one of the Thrawn books that the Executor was seen as a prime posting because even though you ran the risk of getting killed by Vader if you hosed up, it also meant you were effectively on the fast-track to promotion.
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Boba dies bc he wants to goof off in an opium den and then go on an impromptu boat ride. No one else is so clearly punished for horny except ben
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Ingmar terdman posted:Boba dies bc he wants to goof off in an opium den and then go on an impromptu boat ride. No one else is so clearly punished for horny except ben 
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Jerkface posted:Fett passes up capturing 3 of the most wanted rebels cuz he sucks. If he was so good hed capture leia and chewie He did. Then he turned them over to the Empire, who let them get away. Not his problem
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Jango Fett got decidedly owned and it’s the same character. Respect to Boba for carrying on his dads legacy by dying on the space equivalent of a gap year
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It is the doom of each and every Mandalorian to accomplish daring deeds and face down impossible odds only to get hilariously owned in the end. Just watch the titular character of the new series end up dying because a Baby Yoda fart makes him jump and fall down one of those bottomless pits that the Star Wars galaxy is so famous for. Sorry if I spoiled the ending of the D+ series.
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The Mandalorians in the Clone Wars cartoon are also cool villains who get dunked on.
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2house2fly posted:He did. Then he turned them over to the Empire, who let them get away. Not his problem the empire was already there im talking about at the end when he's fleeing with han instead of mixing it up with them. he was scared that Leia was gonna shoot him in the neck. she'd do it too
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Leia "I'm gonna shoot you in the loving neck" Organa.
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The only person Leia wouldnt shoot in the neck is R2D2 but only because he doesnt have one
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She managed to strangle Jabba even though he didn’t have a neck. Now that's dedication
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Protect Ya Neck was Leia and Han's first dance song
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Barudak posted:Protect Ya Neck was Leia and Han's first dance song I thought it was this.
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Nah thats how Han proposed. Way more people dancing with him in the background though, like full Bollywood number. Id watch a 3 night ring cycle Star Wars OT or PT opera on a related note.
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well why not posted:Fett gets owned continually through the series, culminating in one of the least ceremonious deaths in the franchise. Part of The Mandalorian existing seems to be to rehabilitate the image of Mandalorian bounty hunters, who were meant to be cool but accidentally ended up poo poo. It's unlikely to be an accidental pattern at this point.
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General Dog posted:That’s the whole point- the rest of the movie shows what a normal day at the office is like for Vader, and at least for that moment at the end, he’s not in a place to go back to business as usually. It is one of my favorite subtle moments in the OT. Vader is already on the road to becoming a better person after the confrontation by "not" killing Piett, who also didn't deserve it. Vader proceeds to have one foot out the door until the very end. Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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