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Dick Bastardly posted:Scum get a jump start on murdering towns in that case though... Huh. This is weird. ##vote DB
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merk posted:Huh. This is weird. ##vote DB Can you explain what about this you find weird (apart from using “towns” instead of “townies” like I’d probably expect?) I’m in agreement with the sentiment which is basically what I said to chores earlier.
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It just sounds weird.
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Weirder than implicitly trusting chores that we should NL D1?
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I don't think "DickyB sounds weird" is a case, more a statement of general fact. But maybe that's me.
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Monathin posted:I don't think "DickyB sounds weird" is a case, more a statement of general fact. But maybe that's me. What is your great d1 case, friend?
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Let me get at a computer. Just got off work.
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Scum are scared to post
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merk posted:What is your great d1 case, friend? I agree, you are the only one making cases. That being said, your cases are... not good and feel a little forced by even D1 standards, The case on me had a bit more substance than the DB one: merk posted:You felt a need to respond to a post that was going to have zero impact on the thread. merk posted:Your post showed that you are worried about what other people think about you - you discredited B-'s vote immediately. You weren't hunting scum there. which are ok points but more salient later in the game rather than early on. But hey it is D1 gotta find cases where you can. However, you previous input on the same situation was: merk posted:B- usually makes bad votes. which is not all that different than Hal Incandenza posted:Not really a great point! To me it looks like neither of us is particularly looking to hunt scum or try to figure out alignment there, we are both discrediting a bad vote. And of course I am going to discredit b-'s vote because its on me and I know its a bad vote. As your yourself point out it isn't really indicative of b-'s alignment. There isn't much to say about your DB vote, other than since you didn't unvote me it probably isn't going to count. I think it's pretty odd that you built a two-post case on me then dropped it for what feels like even less of a case on DB. The real question in my mind is merk trying to kick start the thread or is he trying to lead us down a path to our doom?
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Ok this is gonna be a little truncated (I have class in an hour and some light reading to finish) but here's some quick casework to satisfy Merk:Hal Incandenza posted:I am pretty sure its merk and mona based on posting so far You already pointed out Hal's weird interaction later on but this was right at the start. While, yes, there's a thin veneer of jokephase over the comment it still reads as weirdly forced. If Hal wanted to be jokey he coulda just voted one of myself or Merk out and out, instead it reads as this light shade Hal can either back off of 'as a joke' or revisit more seriously later to try and build a case. re: wins vs binus, binus throws out a vote on Hal after wins cases Hal, wins immediately turns on binus to call him scummy. Don't really think anyone's scum in that interaction (and I usually have a good meta read on binus, imho), so I'm not sure if there's anything more there I can say that hasn't already been said. Jonathan Fisk posted:I actually liked your reasoning, wins I emptyquoted the 'bruh' chores said in response to this, but Fisk kind of just throws this out here, doesn't really back it up, and then follows up with light shade on binus countervote on wins. I think Fisk actually looks the shadiest here (though I'm biased and usually assume Fisk is scum until proven otherwise) because it's kind of in the same vein as the thing you threw shade on Hal for: an empty +1. Fisk has a few other posts in thread that also make me feel like they're devoid of content. Which, I'm aware, is pot calling the kettle black given I haven't really started digging into the game until just now, but it feels weirder coming from Fisk, imo. Regarding Chores and the possibility of NL I think I fall on the side of "town should always try and axe someone because it is their only way of removing scum". I don't think Chores is scummy for it though. Scum picks right now: Hal, Fisk Town picks: binus, wins, chores
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Oh, hi Hal.
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Monathin posted:
I mean come on that is quite literally three posts after the game started and neither of you had posted yet.
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean come on that is quite literally three posts after the game started and neither of you had posted yet. yeah, I don't see how in the world anyone could read that and not see it as a toss away joke post at the start of the game. Not sure if this is Mona manufacturing content or trying to scumhunt from very little to go off of.
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I mean there was only a page of content to go over, I think I did pretty well, all things considered.
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Anyway I'd vote Hal but Votefinder isn't showing up for me so I can't be certain if I'm putting him dangerously close to lunch so I'll vote my second choice just to have it on the board. ##vote Fisk
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Feb 4, 2020 16:23
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b-minus1 posted:This is an insanely scummy post Insanely scummy post that somehow doesn't merit a vote? I can't tell if you're just not very good at mafia or scum.
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Feb 4, 2020 16:53
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merk posted:I am doing well. How about you? Doing pretty well. Life is good if somewhat boring.
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Feb 4, 2020 16:54
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merk posted:##vote Hal Since when has awkward equalled scum. I recall a long debate we had on that like 5 years ago.
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So Hal, you've made like 10 posts and in not a single one of them can I find an opinion of who is scum or town. You're just defending yourself and making snippy comments. Who do you think is scum?
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wins32767 posted:So Hal, you've made like 10 posts and in not a single one of them can I find an opinion of who is scum or town. You're just defending yourself and making snippy comments. I don't have a particularly strong read anywhere yet, merk definitely a little suss for reasons I mentioned to me but he also stated earlier that he was going to drive content. Mona case on me and fisk felt like working backwards in both cases, so also not a good look, but those two are also the only two who have done much casing other than a bit from you so it feels wrong to list both them. of everyone else, DB maybe, he's jumped in a lot to ask other people who they think are scum and make side comments but hasn't offered anything of substance. IS I think has been really strong thus far and I have a good town read on them. Null on almost everyone else at this point. I'll ##vote DB for the time being but now I really have put suspicion on merk and mona that I may revisit more seriously later
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I’ve been thinking about these posts that merk made after I voted hal. b-minus1 posted:That’s a great point. ##vote hal merk posted:I am doing well. How about you? merk posted:B- usually makes bad votes. It’s only a bad vote because merk already knows that Hal will flip town if we lunch him. Checkmate. ##vote merk
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Feb 4, 2020 17:35
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There’s nothing to say worth saying when “I agree” is sufficient
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I won’t begrudge you your bad vote though as you could be very well still big mad about fabricated slights from the game we played!
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Jonathan Fisk posted:There’s nothing to say worth saying when “I agree” is sufficient What's this in response to?
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wins32767 posted:What's this in response to? Monathins bad vote
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I won’t begrudge you your bad vote though as you could be very well still big mad about fabricated slights from the game we played! I try not to make a habit of carrying grudges through multiple games except for joking around, but I appreciate your benevolence.
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It was only a tease
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 The Current Day 1 Votecount   Hal Incandenza (2): wins32767, b-minus1, -wins32767, merk b-minus1 (2): wins32767, Jonathan Fisk got some chores tonight (1): IllegallySober Dick Bastardly (1): Hal Incandenza Jonathan Fisk (1): Monathin Lynch No One! (1): got some chores tonight Not Voting (1): Dick Bastardly With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to be executed.  The current deadline is February 04th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EST -- that's in about 10 hours, 15 minutes from this post.
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Feb 4, 2020 18:47
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merk, something happened with your vote I think...?
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Feb 4, 2020 18:48
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Merk did not honor the Ecco Rule
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Monathin posted:Merk did not honor the Ecco Rule Yeah total noob move
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Wtf where is my vote ##unvote ##vote merk
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Rude. ##unvote; ##vote DB
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I'm laying down right now but I'll be up with plenty of time before deadline. Obviously I will switch to either of my main picks as needed and also consider other cases should they crop up when I wake up.
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I’m in and out of meetings most of the day today but will be checking in when possible. I’m still happy with my vote on chores for now but am open to reviewing other cases- I’ve skimmed but want to reread the last 20 or so posts that I haven’t digested fully yet.
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