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Killing Sal while they still have a mass jail would be a huge waste. If the vote goes Sal's way I think we should back off and let him mass jail tonight - if Sal's town then we know that jail > roleblock so there's no plausible way it fails. A mass jail means nobody dies and we have the next day to vote him if necessary. No mass jail means sal was lying and we can just dunk him then. Either way even if you believe Sal's scum (I don't any more) it makes more sense to do someone else today. or is there some reason why a mass jail is bad for us I'm missing?
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xiw posted:Killing Sal while they still have a mass jail would be a huge waste. I agree with this. A mass jail is pro-town. I actually was thinking it would have been a good play N3.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:13
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I don't really want to broadcast when I'm using it but thanks for the suggestion.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:14
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Leith Maclaine posted:I agree with this. A mass jail is pro-town. I actually was thinking it would have been a good play N3. I am shocked that a scumbro thinks his scumbos idea is good.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:15
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##vote humalong
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Feb 4, 2020 20:15
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Like you guys can cuddle me, I'm not using my upgraded ability tonight.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:16
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xiw posted:A mass jail means nobody dies and we have the next day to vote him if necessary. No mass jail means sal was lying and we can just dunk him then. I just want to highlight something here that showed how loving disingenuous this post is. So which is it? I mass jail, am town, still get cuddled "as necessary" or don't use my ability because hey maybe I don't want to be Vanilla Town and still am cuddled?
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Feb 4, 2020 20:19
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Like offer me some incentive to want to help town here. I effectively prevented a NK yesterday through some wacky combination of poo poo happening, I could in theory, prevent a 2nd Nigh Kill, but still it's "SAL IS SCUM, SAL IS SCUM" So which loving is it? Town, if you want my help, take your vote off me. Scum players, just keep beating the drum.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:21
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Last post and then I'm dipping out of the thread. In case it wasn't clear (and it was because people have referenced it) ONCE I USE MARTIAL LAW I LOSE MY JAILING ABILITY FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
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Feb 4, 2020 20:23
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If Sal doesn't get voted out today and he then doesn't prove his claim by Jailing everyone and stopping the kill tonight, that would pretty decisively prove he was lying and already used it. Want to change your story Sal? Did you already use it last night after all? Preview Edit: SalTheBard posted:Like you guys can cuddle me, I'm not using my upgraded ability tonight. 
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Feb 4, 2020 20:24
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##Vote Sal So busted.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:26
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Lumpen posted:If Sal doesn't get voted out today and he then doesn't prove his claim by Jailing everyone and stopping the kill tonight, that would pretty decisively prove he was lying and already used it. You accuse me of not reading posts rear end in a top hat. SalTheBard posted:Like offer me some incentive to want to help town here. I effectively prevented a NK yesterday through some wacky combination of poo poo happening, I could in theory, prevent a 2nd Nigh Kill, but still it's "SAL IS SCUM, SAL IS SCUM" So which loving is it? Town, if you want my help, take your vote off me. Scum players, just keep beating the drum. I'm asking for some incentive since according to Xiw's post regardless of what I do I'm getting cuddled tomorrow. xiw posted:Killing Sal while they still have a mass jail would be a huge waste.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:29
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Like I'm just really tired of "SAL IS SCUM" with no proof. So I have really no incentive to stick it out another day. According to Xiw regardless of what I do tonight I'm a target again, so why would I want to suffer through another day of this unending bullshit? Literally the only fun I've had is talking to Hal in our masonry.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:35
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Sal, it’s alright dude. Lumpen is either scum are engaging in some of the worst tunneling I’ve ever seen. And I’ve engaged in some pretty awful tunneling before
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Feb 4, 2020 20:47
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SalTheBard posted:I just want to highlight something here that showed how loving disingenuous this post is. So which is it? I mass jail, am town, still get cuddled "as necessary" or don't use my ability because hey maybe I don't want to be Vanilla Town and still am cuddled? Look my goal there was to say 'people who are wanting to kill sal tonight, how about instead you wait a day and then you can test him' because I want you to not get voted so you can use your ability because it's good for us. SalTheBard posted:So I have really no incentive to stick it out another day. what do you expect anyone to say to this though man - either you're legit angry or you're lying, if you're legit angry enough to not want to play to win then we may as well just vote you in any case. some people are lying, i'm sorry if you feel unhappy that people are considering it but there's no alternative for us but to look at people and go 'what if they are lying'.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:07
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SalTheBard posted:Last post and then I'm dipping out of the thread. In case it wasn't clear (and it was because people have referenced it) Rest of the game is like 2 nights. What's your point.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:08
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Vote humalong with me friends
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Feb 4, 2020 21:08
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charms posted:The best reason I can think of for scum doing the mass roleblock is if they wanted to stop the last CPig vig from happening. It goes with either theory about what happened to vig - either they got the first but not the second, or they just learned about it with the CPig flip and wanted to shut it down. Because of Sal's claimed ability, that puts them in the spotlight. If Sal's scum and gets lynched, it'd ruin the entire point of that move to stop an ally from being killed and would actually leave the secret alliance in a worse position than if they didn't do the omni block. So a Sal lynch is not an option for me today. Lumpen posted:That's a good point and gives Sal a motive for popping the MegaJail. If the Vig was in the wild and they feared it was going to hit one of them, the MegaJail would protect them from that Vig and also wipe out any other Town power roles that might catch them, and give them a chance to push for a mis-vote today. That might be worth forsaking their own NK. Except again, we know we had 3 kill attempts N2. So how do you guys reconcile that with this track? Scum would have to know the vig was still out, but not have it themselves. How does any of that work with Pig dead and 2 kill attempts according to flipped town Steak?
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Feb 4, 2020 21:09
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xiw posted:Look my goal there was to say 'people who are wanting to kill sal tonight, how about instead you wait a day and then you can test him' because I want you to not get voted so you can use your ability because it's good for us. SalTheBard posted:Like offer me some incentive to want to help town here. I effectively prevented a NK yesterday through some wacky combination of poo poo happening, I could in theory, prevent a 2nd Nigh Kill, but still it's "SAL IS SCUM, SAL IS SCUM" So which loving is it? Town, if you want my help, take your vote off me. Scum players, just keep beating the drum. I'm being pretty clear about what I want.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:15
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SalTheBard posted:Like offer me some incentive to want to help town here. I effectively prevented a NK yesterday through some wacky combination of poo poo happening, I could in theory, prevent a 2nd Nigh Kill, but still it's "SAL IS SCUM, SAL IS SCUM" So which loving is it? Town, if you want my help, take your vote off me. Scum players, just keep beating the drum. Uh, excuse me?
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Feb 4, 2020 21:22
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Retro Futurist posted:Except again, we know we had 3 kill attempts N2. So how do you guys reconcile that with this track? Scum would have to know the vig was still out, but not have it themselves. How does any of that work with Pig dead and 2 kill attempts according to flipped town Steak? There has to be at least one other killing role out there yes. I was wondering about cpig hitting a PGO but everyone has claimed active abilities now. i'll try and get an updated and clearer post with all the claims / actions together, work's a bit unpredictable this morning tho. Right now would vote hambeet > lumpen SalTheBard posted:I'm being pretty clear about what I want. there's one person voting you
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Feb 4, 2020 21:23
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Sal deciding to get aggressive with everyone else in the game feels scummy.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:23
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And that one person just moved off of the vote leader b-. Why the gently caress are you panicking Sal?
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Feb 4, 2020 21:24
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b-minus1 posted:Vote humalong with me friends your case on me is non-existent if you're town start playing better
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Feb 4, 2020 21:24
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Retro Futurist posted:We almost certainly have an SK or second scum team going by the 3 kills (1 Mafia, 1 vig, 1 unaccounted for) so Not Town =! Mafia. I don't feel Leith is town after today, but that doesn't mean they were on a team with 2 Penny. this post pings me and I'm surprised it flew under the radar for so many people
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Feb 4, 2020 21:27
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I just reread RF and hoooooooooooooooooooooooly poo poo it's bad ##Vote RF The entire thing is mechanics chat, 3P hunting, and jumping on bandwagons against town players
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Feb 4, 2020 21:31
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Mr. Humalong posted:this post pings me and I'm surprised it flew under the radar for so many people If you're trying to make the arguement that anyone who accuses someone of being an SK is scum, that's usually true but in this case there was context.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:33
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Mr. Humalong posted:this post pings me and I'm surprised it flew under the radar for so many people We have already had a scum claim to be 3P. We have already had a 3P revealed. And now RF is making an argument for multiple scum teams or another 3P? I don't buy it, and yeah, their posts are awfully lacking. ##vote RF
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Feb 4, 2020 21:40
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Lumpen posted:
~~~One page later.....~~~ Mr. Humalong posted:I just reread RF and hoooooooooooooooooooooooly poo poo it's bad
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Feb 4, 2020 21:44
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Leith Maclaine posted:We have already had a scum claim to be 3P. We have already had a 3P revealed. And now RF is making an argument for multiple scum teams or another 3P? We had a survivor flip, that's not the same thing at all. And unless Steak lied again (and if he did so help me god steak) then we had 3 kills in one night. No matter how you slice we more likely than not have an SK
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Feb 4, 2020 21:48
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Cool that I'm suddenly the vote leader with less than 6 hours to go based on nothing, def not suspicious at all. ##vote Leith
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Feb 4, 2020 21:48
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Retro Futurist posted:Except again, we know we had 3 kill attempts N2. So how do you guys reconcile that with this track? Scum would have to know the vig was still out, but not have it themselves. How does any of that work with Pig dead and 2 kill attempts according to flipped town Steak? I don't understand your point. The Alliance would either learn about the vigs on either D1 or N2 if they received it on N1, or D3 when CapitalistPig flipped and we all learned what his ability was. When they would know if they didn't have the second vig depending on how the ability works - if the recipient learns about the vig when they receive it, the Secret Alliance would know whether they have it or not at the end of N2. Otherwise, they'd be able to deduce that none of them have the vig at the end of D3, whether they know how the notification works or not. The fact there was a third kill is important, but I don't see how it specifically contradicts this. Am I missing anything?
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Feb 4, 2020 21:49
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Retro Futurist posted:We had a survivor flip, that's not the same thing at all. And unless Steak lied again (and if he did so help me god steak) then we had 3 kills in one night. No matter how you slice we more likely than not have an SK Actually, you are right. I forgot the 2 kill N1. ##vote b-
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Retro Futurist posted:Cool that I'm suddenly the vote leader with less than 6 hours to go based on nothing, def not suspicious at all. You will notice I admitted you are right and removed my vote. You are not vote leader any more.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:50
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Leith Maclaine posted:Actually, you are right. I forgot the 2 kill N1. the 2nd kill n1 was clearly 2penny's revenge kill.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:51
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xiw posted:the 2nd kill n1 was clearly 2penny's revenge kill.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:56
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Leith are you seriously trying to frame me as sk? Lol
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Feb 4, 2020 22:04
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Leith Maclaine posted:With how many blocks there have been other nights? Are we sure on that one? Amnistar posted:French Foreign Legion - If you are the target of any daykill (including being Axed), when you die you can select one of the people voting you to nightkill that night as revenge. You think someone roleblocked 2penny after they were dead? rofl
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Feb 4, 2020 22:05
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Mr. Humalong posted:Uh, excuse me?  Apparently me Jailing Xiw somehow set off a chain reaction that caused every thing to fail. I mean at this point I might not have even jailed Xiw, but it seems like I did since my action was the only one that was succesful. b-minus1 posted:Leith are you seriously trying to frame me as sk? Lol Leith is scum so he's just throwing loving everything at the wall to see what sticks with town.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Don't forget he was jailed and there was no kill! GUILTY! my point is this is the second time he's tried to use that in a vote justification.
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