[Mafia] Europa Universalis

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hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

Leith Maclaine posted:

Actually, you are right. I forgot the 2 kill N1.

##vote b-

the second kill was penny's vengeance ability I thought?

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:23

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 13:47

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

hambeet posted:

the second kill was penny's vengeance ability I thought?

That is probably what happened but I am now questioning it.

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:31

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Leith Maclaine posted:

That is probably what happened but I am now questioning it.

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:33

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Charms has been exceptionally quiet despite obviously keeping up with the thread

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:36

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

I'm not upgraded yet.

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:42

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Did anyone else get to take a night 0 action?

# ? Feb 4, 2020 23:58

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

xiw posted:

The only claims I don't have at this point are:
* Lumpen N1/N2/N3 target
* Hal's N1 target
* hambeet's N3 target.

i targeted charms last night

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:16

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

Leith Maclaine posted:

I don't have any knowledge about the night kills. I am at the point where I am not trusting that we have all the information at all. I am not assuming anything.

yeah never mind, xiw pointed out something I missed which was cpigs flip says the vig is used the next night.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:17

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

hambeet posted:

yeah never mind, xiw pointed out something I missed which was cpigs flip says the vig is used the next night.

Okay, in that case, then I am wrong.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:19

xiw: Sep 25, 2011; i wake up at night
night action madness nightmares
maybe i am scum
Cpig Haiku contest 2020 winner

We've got <3 hours and no remote consensus. clearly hambeet's going nowhere ##unvote

Let's look at the n1 kill - someone is lying about their action and did it.

candidates for doing the N1 kill:

ham
leith
b-
charms

unlikely:

hal (maybe, risky for later given that mason is provable

almost certainly excluded

b- (messenger)
lumpen (jailed)
sal (jailed)
RF because he claimed failure on lumpen before Sal
me because this is my list

not getting traction on Ham
Leith has been weird today, the whole 'what happened with the n1 kill' confusion is strange to compare to this earlier post:

Leith Maclaine posted:

I'm surprised that 2 penny didn't revenge kill me.

I believe Leith's roleclaim because they have a similar mechanic to me.

but a scum tracker's going to take advantage of knowing they're less likely to be tracked, and an unreliable one isn't much use to them, so

##vote Leith maclaine

I will be around on and off but the office is off to the pub now for someone's last day so unpredictable.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:25

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

xiw posted:

Okay here's my chart with the missing info - please let me know if there are any more errors.

pre:

N1: two kills (one NK action, one 2penny revenge kill per flip)
N2: one kill (CPIG), two more kills between Lumpen/Steak/Hambeet
N3: no kills - mass roleblock or jail.

So we're looking at at least 3 lies in this table in N1 and N2 to provide the kills.  

Who       |  Role claim  |  Upgrade | N0 | Night 1 claim    | Night 2 claim         | Night 3           |
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sal       |  jailor      |  Yes     |    | Lumpen *         | Humalong *            | Xiw FAIL          |
Leith     |  tracker     |  No      |    | RF/AA, no action | Sal/Cpig, visited Hum | B/Ham, FAIL       |
Hal       |  mason       |  No      |    |                  | Sal *                 | Hum, FAIL         |
Xiw       |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Cpig/hum/hal     | Sal/hal/xiw           | Lump/xiw/hal FAIL |
Humalong  |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Xiw              | Hambeet FAIL          | Lumpen FAIL       |
Lumpen    |  ?? action   |          |    | ? FAIL           | ?                     | ? FAIL            |
RF        |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Lumpen FAIL *    | Sal                   | Lumpen FAIL       |
charms    |  ?? action   |          |    | Leith            | Leith                 | Hum FAIL          |
b-minus   |  messenger   |  No      | AA | Hal *            | Lumpen *              | Lumpen FAIL       |
hambeet   |  redirector  |  No      |    | Cpig             | Steak                 | ?                 |
                                
* = the target confirmed this action

Deados: 
2penny SCUM     revenger
cpig TOWN       vig provider                          
steak TOWN      bodyguard                          
illegalys TOWN  doc
AA  3P          random ability  
ETR TOWN        challenger

1. Note that Leith's claim came after Sal's claim of jailing hum.

Correction: sal said his action was successful last night and he was the only one. you put failed.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:28

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

xiw posted:

We've got <3 hours and no remote consensus. clearly hambeet's going nowhere ##unvote

Let's look at the n1 kill - someone is lying about their action and did it.

candidates for doing the N1 kill:

ham
leith
b-
charms

unlikely:

hal (maybe, risky for later given that mason is provable

almost certainly excluded

b- (messenger)
lumpen (jailed)
sal (jailed)
RF because he claimed failure on lumpen before Sal
me because this is my list

not getting traction on Ham
Leith has been weird today, the whole 'what happened with the n1 kill' confusion is strange to compare to this earlier post:

I believe Leith's roleclaim because they have a similar mechanic to me.

but a scum tracker's going to take advantage of knowing they're less likely to be tracked, and an unreliable one isn't much use to them, so

##vote Leith maclaine

I will be around on and off but the office is off to the pub now for someone's last day so unpredictable.

you are still ignoring my question.

if you gave town a vig and they didn't comment on receiving it, wouldn't you think that odd?

did cpig point that out? no.

so what did he do instead?

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:30

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

and what do you think of b-minus hiding behind your case?

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:31

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

hambeet posted:

if you gave town a vig and they didn't comment on receiving it, wouldn't you think that odd?

Not even a little

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:37

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

SalTheBard posted:

My action on N3 of jailing Xiw was successful

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:38

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

Retro Futurist posted:

Not even a little

I totally would, especially from cpig who it looks like was completely telegraphing his moves in thread.

I have seen people flipped in past games for that exact same reason.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:46

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

and especially in light of him trying to find his target (me) through an ill thought out gambit.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:47

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

SalTheBard posted:

you think you'd remember something like this, especially as the target.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 00:49

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

Just an hour left, time to find consensus.

##vote b-minus1
Would also vote Sal or Humalong.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:00

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Staying on b-, I'm offline in about 45 minutes.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:03

charms: Oct 14, 2012

b-minus1 and Leith are not on the same side, so I think we should get one of them. But b-1 is more suspicious, and has a less useful ability as I understand it.

##vote b-minus1

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:13

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 4

b-minus1 (4): hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, ~~Lumpen~~, ~~Mr. Humalong~~, ~~Leith Maclaine~~, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, charms

Leith Maclaine (3): SalTheBard, Retro Futurist, xiw

Retro Futurist (2): Hal Incandenza, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, ~~Leith Maclaine~~

Mr. Humalong (1): b-minus1

xiw (0): SalTheBard, ~~SalTheBard~~

hambeet (0): xiw, b-minus1, ~~b-minus1~~, ~~xiw~~

Lumpen (0): b-minus1, ~~b-minus1~~

SalTheBard (0): Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~, Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~, Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 04^th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CST -- that's in about 1 hour, 45 minutes.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:14

Lumpen: Apr 2, 2004; I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.; Plaster Town Cop

My mistake, we have an hour more than I thought. Who uses CST?

Everyone, who are your top 3 suspects?

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:17

Amnistar: Nov 6, 2008; I am a wizard, not a poet.

Lumpen posted:

My mistake, we have an hour more than I thought. Who uses CST?

Everyone, who are your top 3 suspects?

People in Texas.

And now the mod post count is accurate.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:19

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Speculating on the whether or not someone would telegraph they got a vig is dumb, it is different for everyone

I would be fine moving to b-, would also be fine with beet, still ok with RF too

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:22

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

If we are wrong tomorrow is LYLO

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:29

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Did anyone else get a n0 action like Binus is claiming?

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:29

Leith Maclaine: Mar 2, 2018; Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Mr. Humalong posted:

Did anyone else get a n0 action like Binus is claiming?

Not I

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:36

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

##vote binus

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:52

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

interested to see if anyone hammers

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:53

xiw: Sep 25, 2011; i wake up at night
night action madness nightmares
maybe i am scum
Cpig Haiku contest 2020 winner

ugh

One of:
ham
leith
b-
charms

pretty much has to be the scum who did the n1 kill.

b- is the bottom of my list out of those four but still on that list, and if they are it'd pretty much clear hambeet for tomorrow which would be useful.

I would prefer leith or charms or ham though.

##vote b-minus1

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:54

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

xiw posted:

ugh

One of:
ham
leith
b-
charms

pretty much has to be the scum who did the n1 kill.

b- is the bottom of my list out of those four but still on that list, and if they are it'd pretty much clear hambeet for tomorrow which would be useful.

I would prefer leith or charms or ham though.

##vote b-minus1

lol

# ? Feb 5, 2020 01:54

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 4

b-minus1 (6): hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, ~~Lumpen~~, ~~Mr. Humalong~~, ~~Leith Maclaine~~, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, charms, Mr. Humalong, xiw

Leith Maclaine (2): SalTheBard, Retro Futurist, xiw, ~~xiw~~

Retro Futurist (1): Hal Incandenza, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, ~~Leith Maclaine~~, ~~Mr. Humalong~~

Mr. Humalong (1): b-minus1

xiw (0): SalTheBard, ~~SalTheBard~~

hambeet (0): xiw, b-minus1, ~~b-minus1~~, ~~xiw~~

Lumpen (0): b-minus1, ~~b-minus1~~

SalTheBard (0): Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~, Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~, Lumpen, ~~Lumpen~~

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 04^th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CST -- that's in about 47 minutes.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

# ? Feb 5, 2020 02:12

Amnistar: Nov 6, 2008; I am a wizard, not a poet.

B-minus1, Independent Nation-Aligned Poland has be Exiled
Power Name: Poland Can Into Space
Basic Power: "You can send message to another player
You can send a message Night 0"
Upgrade Power: "Each night you can ask a *simple* true/false question about the set-up to the Mod and they will reply honestly.
Questions are answered from the state of the game prior to the roles being assigned.
Mod can veto a question if they feel it would break the game."
Upgrade Target: Prussia

# ? Feb 5, 2020 02:12

Amnistar: Nov 6, 2008; I am a wizard, not a poet.

No one has died in the night, it is Now D5.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:37

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 5

Not Voting (10): b-minus1, charms, Hal Incandenza, hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Retro Futurist, SalTheBard, xiw

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 08^th, 2020 at 6 p.m. CST -- that's in about 3 days, 4 hours.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:37

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

action failed again, etc...

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:39

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Action failed once again

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:39

SalTheBard: Jan 26, 2005; I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!; Fallen Rib

Good news is nobody will ever worried about being jailed again. This is when Leith, Xiw and Lumpen start a scum push on me.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:42

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 13:47

charms: Oct 14, 2012

Unsuccessful, targeted xiw. Either Sal did the mass jail or something weird is going on.

# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:42

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