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Just as an FYI, Amazon has finally gotten the hint and is selling Expanse shirts. I'm probably going to grab that MCRN hoodie. https://www.amazon.com/stores/node/19230571011?_encoding=UTF8&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=The%20Expanse&ref_=bl_sl_s_ap_web_19230571011
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I like the Eros Station shirt. It could plausibly exist in-fiction (material being used for belter clothes aside) and isn't distracting or overly branded if it goes unrecognized. I fully expect to see "Doors and Corners" along with some Punisher Skull poo poo-for-cops-and-cop-lovers any second now though.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:23
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There aint no law ceres. just cops.
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Feb 8, 2020 00:03
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Baronjutter posted:Contrary to the extreme scarcity depicted in the Expanse, there's more than enough resources in the belt alone to sustainably keep trillions of people in luxury until the sun burns out. I imagine by the time there's any practical need to leave the solar system humans will be immortal or not even really human anymore. We'll never conquer the speed of light, but we can conquer our sense of time. What's a few hundred years journey for a being that lives for hundreds of thousands and can alter their perceptions of time? Capitalism, technology. Plus the inherently unstable nature of our habitat. Volcanoes, meteor impact, natural atmospheric changes, stellar evolution, ... pretty much everything out there wants to kill us. Setting up a self-sustaining industrial base in space I think is more difficult than sci-fi envisions.
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Feb 8, 2020 01:02
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T-man posted:If I teleport out of an open airlock which way will my soul fall away? Your soul will expand indefinitely, you'll grow faster than space itself and soon the entire universe will be an invisible dot as you lament your own immortality.
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Feb 8, 2020 01:19
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On the value of potential asteriod mining.articlequote:This potential bounty captured the imagination of venture capitalists eager to cash in on asteroid mining, with some estimating that Psyche could contain metals with an estimated value of $700 quintillion.It also grabbed the attention of media outlets, with some calling Psyche a "golden asteroid" and others saying the space rock could turn celestial prospectors into trillionaires. Helps explain why most belters are so pissed off at Earth. Not even of fraction of that wealth went to the belt.
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Feb 8, 2020 10:10
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Don't forget that the metals in that asteroid would also be sent down in small enough quantities to keep the prices high.
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Feb 8, 2020 16:28
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The Belters aren't mining precious metals though, and precious metals probably lose all value once an extraction operation even a tenth the size of the Belt gets going. They're out there scrabbling for water and carbon and industrial metals, which is even more insulting to watch all get carted off than some shiny rock you can't eat or use, because you could be drinking/breathing/burning that water right there but nope the paperwork says EarthCorp owns it.
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Feb 8, 2020 16:45
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Crazycryodude posted:The Belters aren't mining precious metals though, and precious metals probably lose all value once an extraction operation even a tenth the size of the Belt gets going. They're out there scrabbling for water and carbon and industrial metals, which is even more insulting to watch all get carted off than some shiny rock you can't eat or use, because you could be drinking/breathing/burning that water right there but nope the paperwork says EarthCorp owns it. Yeah, how Ceres didn't explode into violence every time the Cant came home loaded with ice is mystifying.
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Feb 8, 2020 16:58
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Yeah, how Ceres didn't explode into violence every time the Cant came home loaded with ice is mystifying. Because that ice was for Ceres?
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Feb 8, 2020 17:16
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Because that ice was for Ceres? If by "for Ceres" you mean "for belters to get their limited water ration while the rest is used to water gardens and fill Martian and Earther ship's tanks" then yes
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Feb 8, 2020 19:00
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I think the Cant specifically was reserved for mostly feeding Ceres' own reserves, that's why the water rationing clamped down extra hard after it got destroyed - that was the water earmarked for keeping Ceres alive, it's all the hundreds of other freighters that are looting the place.
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Crazycryodude posted:I think the Cant specifically was reserved for mostly feeding Ceres' own reserves, that's why the water rationing clamped down extra hard after it got destroyed - that was the water earmarked for keeping Ceres alive, it's all the hundreds of other freighters that are looting the place. You get my point though
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Feb 8, 2020 19:12
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Crazycryodude posted:The Belters aren't mining precious metals though, and precious metals probably lose all value once an extraction operation even a tenth the size of the Belt gets going. They're out there scrabbling for water and carbon and industrial metals, which is even more insulting to watch all get carted off than some shiny rock you can't eat or use, because you could be drinking/breathing/burning that water right there but nope the paperwork says EarthCorp owns it. And even then, metals never really come up as being in short supply in the books. Which makes sense with being able to mine the asteroid belt. Oxygen and water being in such short supply doesn't really make sense but they need something to make the story of oppression work, so I'm fine not looking at that too closely.
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Grand Fromage posted:And even then, metals never really come up as being in short supply in the books. Which makes sense with being able to mine the asteroid belt. It makes perfect sense if you look at current capitalist trends. Oxygen and water aren't in actual short supply, they are being withheld by the elites specifically to keep Belters in line. Same as living wages and healthcare in the current US capitalist state; you don't have time to organize unions when you're so busy working 3 jobs to avoid homelessness and death. All conjecture, of course.
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Feb 8, 2020 22:54
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Oxygen and water aren't in actual short supply, they are being withheld by the elites specifically to keep Belters in line. This is the only explanation that makes sense, but is contradicted by the text where there are literal shortages. Like Ceres has had all its ice mined out which would probably take thousands of years to do. Its water mass is probably about 3.75 x 10^21 kilograms. That's about triple the mass of Earth's ocean.
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Feb 8, 2020 23:05
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Mars is very dry, I guess
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Feb 8, 2020 23:07
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Not really, there seems to be a whole lot of water right under the surface. And Ceres is only one asteroid, though it's a big one. Water is the second most abundant molecule in the universe, there's no shortage of it. Anyway like I said, it's fiction, whatever. If you poke at it too much there are holes.
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Feb 8, 2020 23:09
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Hot take: All the Ice melted due to Climate Change.
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Feb 9, 2020 00:49
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Elentor posted:Hot take: All the Ice melted due to Climate Change. On a literal level, that's certainly true! quote:And Ceres is only one asteroid, though it's a big one. While this is true, "a big one" doesn't do it justice. It's a third of the mass of the Belt.
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Feb 9, 2020 01:40
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Nail Rat posted:Just as an FYI, Amazon has finally gotten the hint and is selling Expanse shirts. I'm probably going to grab that MCRN hoodie. What the hell are the Screaming Firehawks? I don't remember that at all.
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Feb 9, 2020 06:05
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Doctor Reynolds posted:What the hell are the Screaming Firehawks? I don't remember that at all. Alex wanted to rename the Tachi the Screaming Firehawk, now Cas uses it in reference to twitter fans I think?
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Feb 9, 2020 06:09
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Still no martian coffee mugs you cowards
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Feb 9, 2020 06:24
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Doctor Reynolds posted:What the hell are the Screaming Firehawks? I don't remember that at all. It's the nickname for the Expanse fandom, from the line about the Tachi that pik_d mentioned.
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Feb 9, 2020 06:32
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The Firehawks were the friends we made along the way
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Feb 9, 2020 08:49
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Nail Rat posted:Just as an FYI, Amazon has finally gotten the hint and is selling Expanse shirts. I'm probably going to grab that MCRN hoodie. I'm suprised they didn't use Misko and Marisko for one of the graphic tees https://www.amazon.com/Expanse-Backpack-Misko-Marisko-Pink/dp/B07PBHZ7BN
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Feb 9, 2020 15:01
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Teddy the Detector shirt when
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Feb 9, 2020 15:11
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Mu Zeta posted:Still no martian coffee mugs you cowards The crazy thing is they sell what I'm pretty sure is the actual mug without a label. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emsa-504843-insulated-drinking-translucent/dp/B000ICINFO Just screen print the MCRN logo and you'll be able to charge $50 for it guys
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Feb 9, 2020 16:09
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Nail Rat posted:The crazy thing is they sell what I'm pretty sure is the actual mug without a label. That is in fact the cup. 
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Feb 9, 2020 16:28
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Is that yours? If so how did you do the printing?
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Feb 9, 2020 16:42
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Nail Rat posted:Is that yours? If so how did you do the printing? Some vinyl stickers I found online, dont remember where
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Feb 9, 2020 17:01
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Had this very strange dream where I was watching the expanse but it was using the nier automata soundtrack (specifically “crumbling lies”)
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Feb 9, 2020 17:03
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I found some MCRN logo stickers you could put on the cup here, though none of them are pure black like that one is.
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Feb 9, 2020 19:43
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Emsa? It's maybe not that obscure but still making me all 
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Feb 9, 2020 19:55
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Mars is so cool.
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Feb 9, 2020 19:59
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I'm guessing that emsa city cup is discontinued. It's not on their website.
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Feb 9, 2020 20:13
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That doors and corners shirt is freaking hideous, my god
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Feb 10, 2020 01:16
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I kinda hate every design ngl
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Feb 10, 2020 02:11
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Legit shocked there's not a "Keep calm and Belter on" or some poo poo.
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TraderStav posted:Legit shocked there's not a "Keep calm and Belter on" or some poo poo. Wellwallah propaganda! Get angry, mi beratnas!
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