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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country
Hey did anyone know that a bunch of Nazis marched through Washington DC yesterday?

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/08/us/politics/08reuters-usa-protests.html

quote:

WASHINGTON — Police escorted masked members of a white nationalist group on a march through Washington's National Mall on Saturday that Metropolitan Police said occurred without incident or arrests.

More than 100 members of the Patriot Front, dressed in khaki pants and caps, blue jackets and white face masks, shouted "Reclaim America!" and "Life, liberty, victory!" video of the march showed.

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes the Patriot Front as a white nationalist group that broke off from a similar organization, Vanguard America, in the aftermath of the deadly "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.

At that rally, self-described neo Nazi James Fields drove his car into a group of counter-protesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer. He was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 2018.

U.S. President Donald Trump drew criticism from his fellow Republicans as well as Democrats for saying that "both sides" were to blame for the deadly 2017 incident.

Video of Saturday's march in Washington posted on the News2Share Facebook page showed occasional hecklers, but there appeared to be no organized counter-protest movement waiting for the Patriot Front as the group marched from the Lincoln Memorial to the U.S. Capitol grounds and later a nearby Wal-Mart parking garage.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

BigDave posted:

Hey did anyone know that a bunch of Nazis marched through Washington DC yesterday?

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/08/us/politics/08reuters-usa-protests.html

Yeah I was following that. KKK also threatened to march into Portland but never appeared.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

BigDave posted:

Hey did anyone know that a bunch of Nazis marched through Washington DC yesterday?

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/08/us/politics/08reuters-usa-protests.html

Please they're just good people who are very concerned about their gun rights

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Jesus the Times is such loving garbage. A combined household income of $560,000 is most definitely a part of the top percentile, but within that percentile, it’s absolutely at the lower end.

This is “Ms. Springfield uses appearance-altering cosmetics to enhance her beauty” level of reporting.

Yes, but you see he wants to tax the 1%* although he is the 1%, what a hypocrite! Yes I am a very smart and educated person.



*I thought his thing was *in bernie* "The 1/10th of 1 percent"

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

stealie72 posted:

And if we see it sometime in the next 642 years, it's already happened. :psyduck:

This kind of stuff still blows my mind.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Bored As gently caress posted:

This kind of stuff still blows my mind.

To some extent, researchers think it's the same general problem with government budgetary numbers. At a certain point, our brains just break because the numbers are too high and we just give up or don't have the experience to create an accurate mental frame.

Turns out, space is really, really, really loving big.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

shame on an IGA posted:

I played with goonfleet for about 3 months, years ago, and Spreadsheets:the game was accurate but getting firsthand experience with

1) naked shameless market manipulation on a vast scale

and

2) the powerful advantages of fully automated luxury gay space communism

and

3) a solid propaganda organization

were a truly spectacular preparation for this moment in american politics

I played from 2008-2015 and was either an alliance CEO or a Goonswarm diplomat for most of that time. It did an exceptional job of training me to write and evaluate corporate policy and governance, and I owe my new career in enterprise risk management in large part to the experience I got from it. (I even got referred to my job by a former GSF director.) It was a game that made my ability to write far more important than my reflexes - something no other game had ever done before, and I loved it for it. It's justifiably mocked, but for a long time it offered opportunities to study how humans work in various organizational contexts at scale that I don't think existed anywhere else. Its value shouldn't be understated, and I'm sad it's dying even though I have zero desire to play it again. It taught me more than I can really express.

Also audits get me hard now, so there's that.

bird food bathtub posted:

That stuff is super hosed up and if you do more digging and learning about it you're probably going to get even more terrified. Like, "Oh your score is low from saying double plus ungood words on social media and our facial recognition technology locating you in proximity to other unpersons. Your travel is restricted you're not allowed to get on airplanes."

And if your score goes down, your family's scores all go down, and they literally call your mom and tell her you've been a bad.

The opportunities for zersetzung are off the hook... as intended.

There are rewards for being good too, everything from free refrigerators to vacations to access to financial products.

Kesper North fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Feb 10, 2020

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Blind Rasputin posted:

I don’t get it

CommieGIR posted:

Albert Speer. Trump is basically wanting to regulate buildings in DC like Adolf Hitler wanted to redesign Berlin through Speer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_architecture

Here's a great piece on Hitler and Speer's obsession with Neoclassicism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfbBvIEbfA&t=1308s

Every despot sees themselves as an architect; of a nation, of a people, of a society, and they want their nation's buildings to reflect that. Dictators are drawn toward neoclassicism because its grandiose style is flattering to the builder's ego, because it hearkens back to a mythical "golden era" that the modern dictator sees himself as a descendant of, and because it's free of "international influences."

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Kesper North posted:

It's justifiably mocked, but for a long time it offered opportunities to study how humans work in various organizational contexts at scale that I don't think existed anywhere else.

quote:

study how humans work

quote:

humans
Is "people who play Eve online" a good cross-section of society? :thunk:

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Buttcoin purse posted:

Is "people who play Eve online" a good cross-section of society? :thunk:

oh yes, very good point and important to remember. if you're trying to study hosed up tech companies though it's basically ideal and it applies widely to other areas of the business world too (like large healthcare organizations, for example). if your job is how to mitigate those issues with just enough policy but not too much, EVE is a pretty interesting laboratory.

Kesper North fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 10, 2020

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


I'm really starting to understand why people have such a kneejerk reaction to "liberal" climate policies.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
that raked bow makes me pointy in the lower horn though, not gonna lie

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Kesper North posted:

that raked bow makes me pointy in the lower horn though, not gonna lie

Tumblehome prow.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously


I’d be fine with all but $100 million of his wealth being confiscated and used to wipe out a heckuva lot of medical debt. He’d still live in unimaginable luxury, just would need to rent the yacht.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Same but half that. You can only have 50 mil. The horror

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
2006: https://twitter.com/alissamarie/status/1226692987696099328

2020: https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1226694141456900096

I mean, gently caress the Oscars, but I had no idea Lynch did that poo poo in 2006.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Oh man all the internet star wars bros gonna be mad, because they've never seen a movie that wasn't made about comic books or sci fi properties and will just assume this is entirely about the academy siding with Rian Johnson,

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Wow Laura Dern still got it

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Laura Dern owns

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Fallom posted:

Laura Dern owns

subterfudge
Aug 5, 2015

Slim Pickens posted:

What the gently caress, Petry. I was in the same platoon as that dude and back then he was a good squad leader and a solid dude. Trump rolls around and I try to ignore his support, now the dude is full chud willing to make poo poo up for the propaganda machine. Now I get how shim felt. :smith:

It really sucks that he's still the only guy from regiment to get a MOH. I know a few guys got it in Vietnam but he's the only one since it became the 75th.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

David Lynch pissed somebody's interrupting his smoko

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Imagine being this guy tho

https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1226683232378380289?s=19

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

I mean I think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was great too but what the gently caress is wrong with that rear end in a top hat? gently caress, Twitter sucks rear end.

Edit: He's a Blaze TV host. Of course he is.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Racists are racist.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
I think the Oscar's are dumb and pointless and I think make a point of trying to see as few movies that area nominated as possible, but I did go see Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, and that movie doesn't deserve any awards for writing. What a complete crap story.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Can't wait till tomorrow when Are President congratulates Parasite for winning but manages to turn it round to illegal massagists and drycleaners and toenail clippers and ninjas who should not be in are country

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
Parasite is an excellent film by the way with lots of subtext (and explicit text) on capitalism, highly recommended.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

Fister Roboto posted:

I'm really starting to understand why people have such a kneejerk reaction to "liberal" climate policies.

I would bet money that he has stock in components manufacturers and shipbuilding facilities and this super expensive proof of concept will align a product chain that, if renewable ships take off before we evolve gills and plunder the seven seas for oil, will make Bill Gates more money than the yacht costs (not to mention saving on rental fees).

As for most hydrogen being a byproduct of fossil fuels, that will hopefully change with time and development.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
A hydrogren-powered superyacht has value as a technology demonstrator. It'd be way better if it wasn't built as a billionaire's toy but honestly I don't see anyone else funding one in the near future.

I mean, in the 1950s this sort of ship would've been built by private industry and subsidized by the government but :lol: at that happening for anything that doesn't go shooty-shooty these days.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

A hydrogren-powered superyacht has value as a technology demonstrator. It'd be way better if it wasn't built as a billionaire's toy but honestly I don't see anyone else funding one in the near future.

I mean, in the 1950s this sort of ship would've been built by private industry and subsidized by the government but :lol: at that happening for anything that doesn't go shooty-shooty these days.

And that actually happened too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS_Savannah

quote:

Savannah was a demonstration of the technical feasibility of nuclear propulsion for merchant ships and was not expected to be commercially competitive. She was designed to be visually impressive, looking more like a luxury yacht than a bulk cargo vessel, and was equipped with thirty air-conditioned staterooms (each with an individual bathroom), a dining facility for 100 passengers, a lounge that could double as a movie theater, a veranda, a swimming pool and a library. Even her cargo handling equipment was designed to look good. By many measures, the ship was a success. She performed well at sea, her safety record was impressive, and her gleaming white paint was never smudged by exhaust smoke (except when running the diesel generator).

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





quote:

Additionally, a labor dispute erupted over a disparity in pay scales between deck officers and nuclear engineering officers.
lmao

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

That's the example I was referring to, actually.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





lol jesus
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/trav...-zealand-flight

quote:

"There was nothing I could have done other than raise my hand out of fear of being hit because she was extremely violent... Out of pure instinct and protection I raised my right hand and hit her nose, which wasn't bleeding until much later when she called the police."
drat those self defensive arm-raisings that only cause bleeding when the police show up
drat them

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

A hydrogren-powered superyacht has value as a technology demonstrator. It'd be way better if it wasn't built as a billionaire's toy but honestly I don't see anyone else funding one in the near future.

I mean, in the 1950s this sort of ship would've been built by private industry and subsidized by the government but :lol: at that happening for anything that doesn't go shooty-shooty these days.

It’s a technology demonstrator for an attractive distractor.

It’s no more valuable than a Hyperloop demonstrator.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Wsj article this morning about mayor pete:

quote:

When Mayor Pete Buttigieg talks about his military service, his opponents fall silent, the media fall in love, and his political prospects soar. Veterans roll their eyes.

CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Mr. Buttigieg Sunday if President Trump “deserves some credit” for the strike that killed Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani. “No,” the candidate replied, “not until we know whether this was a good decision and how this decision was made.” He questioned whether “it was the right strategic move” and said his own judgment “is informed by the experience of having been on one of those planes headed into a war zone.”

But Mr. Buttigieg’s stint in the Navy isn’t as impressive as he makes it out to be. His 2019 memoir is called “Shortest Way Home,” an apt description of his military service. He entered the military through a little-used shortcut: direct commission in the reserves. The usual route to an officer’s commission includes four years at Annapolis or another military academy or months of intense training at Officer Candidate School. ROTC programs send prospective officers to far-flung summer training programs and require military drills during the academic year. Mr. Buttigieg skipped all that—no obstacle courses, no weapons training, no evaluation of his ability or willingness to lead. Paperwork, a health exam and a background check were all it took to make him a naval officer.

He writes that his reserve service “will always be one of the highlights of my life, but the price of admission was an ongoing flow of administrativia.” That’s not how it’s supposed to work. The paperwork isn’t the price of admission but the start of a long, grueling test.

Combat veterans have grumbled for decades about the direct-commission route. The politically connected and other luminaries who receive immediate commissions are disparaged as “pomeranian princes.” Former Trump chief of staff Reince Priebus became a Naval Reserve officer in 2018 at age 46. Hunter Biden, son of the former vice president, accepted a direct commission but was discharged after one month of service for failing a drug test.

Mr. Buttigieg was assigned to a comfortable corner of military life, the Naval Station in Great Lakes, Ill. Paperwork and light exercise were the order of the day. “Working eight-hour days,” he writes, was “a relaxing contrast from my day job, and spending time with sailors from all walks of civilian life, was a healthy antidote to the all absorbing work I had in South Bend.” He calls it “a forced, but welcome, change of pace from the constant activity of being mayor.”

During a November debate, Mr. Buttigieg proclaimed: “I have the experience of being commanded into a war zone by an American president.” The reality isn’t so grandiose. In 2013, he writes, he “made sure my chain of command knew that I would rather go sooner than later, and would rather go to Afghanistan than anywhere else.”

Arriving there, he “felt a sense of purpose, maybe even idealism, that can only be compared to the feeling of starting on a political campaign. I thought back to 2004 and John Kerry’s presidential run, and then remembered that it was during the campaign that I saw the iconic footage of his testimony as the spokesman for Vietnam Veterans against the War.”

The comparison is telling. Mr. Buttigieg has just started his time in a war he says he’s idealistic about, but he daydreams about John Kerry protesting Vietnam after he got back. Many veterans detest Mr. Kerry’s “iconic” 1971 testimony, in which he slandered American servicemen. But it did launch a decadeslong political career.

Mr. Buttigieg spent some five months in Afghanistan, where he writes that he remained less busy than he’d been at City Hall, with “more time for reflection and reading than I was used to back home.” He writes that he would take “a laptop and a cigar up to the roof at midnight to pick up a Wi-Fi signal and patch via Skype into a staff meeting at home.” The closest he came to combat was ferrying other staffers around in an SUV: In his campaign kickoff speech last April he referred to “119 trips I took outside the wire, driving or guarding a vehicle.” That’s a strange thing to count. Combat sorties in an F-18 are carefully logged. Driving a car isn’t.

After the welcome-home rally, glowing press, a few more years of light service, the mayor left the reserves. But his bragging rights were assured. Candidate Buttigieg takes every opportunity to lean in on those months in Afghanistan. Questions ranging from student debt to Colin Kaepernick to gun control prompt him to reference his military stint, sometimes indignantly.

“I don’t need lessons from you on courage,” he lectured former Rep. Beto O’Rourke in an October debate, “political or personal.” Two months later he told Sen. Amy Klobuchar, “Let me tell you about my relationship to the First Amendment. It is part of the Constitution that I raised my right hand and swore to defend with my life. That is my experience, and it may not be the same as yours, but it counts, Senator, it counts.”

Debate moderators and other journalists—hardly a veteran among them—eagerly sell Mr. Buttigieg’s narrative. Debate moderators often point out that he served in Afghanistan and, if Tulsi Gabbard isn’t there, is the only veteran on the stage. When Ms. Gabbard is present, the moderators seldom mention her military experience, which dwarfs Mr. Buttigieg’s.

In our experience, those who did the most in war talk about it the least. Serving in a support or noncombat role is honorable, but it shouldn’t be the basis of a presidential campaign.

Mr. Kelly, a host at Newsmax TV, served as a jet pilot for the Marine Corps. He was on active duty, 1991-2000 and in the reserves, 2000-11. Ms. Horgan runs a New York logistics consulting practice. She served as an active duty Marine officer, 2006-12 and was deployed in Iraq for 13 months.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

lol jesus
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/trav...-zealand-flight

drat those self defensive arm-raisings that only cause bleeding when the police show up
drat them

Man gently caress that lady. She is the exact reason why airplane travel is so miserable.
Also is there a super 8 motel equivalent in upside down land? I don't understand how spending 150 bucks for 2 nights in a cheap hotel would break your budget when you are doing a world tour?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Wsj article this morning about mayor pete:

On the one hand I dislike Pete and wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him and his touting his military service at every turn seems masturbatory. On the other, do the GOP former military ever get anywhere near the same level of scrutiny

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Sean Spicer also went the Navy Reserve officer route.

He has Naval War College on his resume, but that didn't happen until he'd been in the reserves a decade.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Milo and POTUS posted:

On the one hand I dislike Pete and wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him and his touting his military service at every turn seems masturbatory. On the other, do the GOP former military ever get anywhere near the same level of scrutiny

Richard Reinhold Priebus and Lindsay Graham get all sorts of poo poo for being reserve whackos. They also don't talk themselves up as if they've seen combat action.

This isn't swiftboating. Mayor pete was a war tourist to get a check in the box for his presidential ambitions.

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