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Oasx posted:I come from a small country where everything that isn't a documentary or made for children is subtitled, so I am biased, but it isn't some major skill that people need to learn. You look at the screen as normal, and at the bottom are subtitles that you read at the same time, the experience is in no way lesser because you read at the same time. Some people have things like dyslexia or ADHD that make it hard to read subtitles and pay attention to visuals while also following the text. Other people are fully capable of it but still personally find it distracting. And then there are people for whom it would simply be more enjoyable and convenient to be able to consume a film or show without having to actively read every piece of dialogue. Regardless, a dub is purely additive; worst case scenario it does absolutely nothing to diminish the quality or enjoyment of the original film in it's original language. Being against them existing is just gatekeeping pure and simple.
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If even one of you gets into a subs v dubs argument with this guy, I will be very disappointed.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:41
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feedmyleg posted:Within 20 years you'll be able to swap out actors in movies with whomever you want. Like, the technology is 80% of the way there right now. This summer, Dom Deluise IS... ROBOCOP
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Feb 10, 2020 19:41
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I like anime dubs because I'm a voice actor nerd 
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Feb 10, 2020 19:41
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feedmyleg posted:Within 20 years you'll be able to swap out actors in movies with whomever you want. Like, the technology is 80% of the way there right now. Its funny that studios keep spending millions to CG faces when the deepfakes are arguably better looking and less uncanny valley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PZ3W1W20bk Also lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWNFrrnuo7s
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Feb 10, 2020 19:48
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I only watch cheesy old Kung Fu movies dubbed. The worse the dub, the happier I am.
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I don’t have a take on dubs v subs (that post was a joke, Guy Mann), but it’s really jarring for me to watch dubs of pre-Rumble in the Bronx Jackie Chan movies and not hear his voice. There’s a copy of Crime Story up on Tubi right now where the guy dubbing Jackie is like a full octave too high and it’s just ridiculous.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:51
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Sleeveless posted:Some people have things like dyslexia or ADHD that make it hard to read subtitles and pay attention to visuals while also following the text. Other people are fully capable of it but still personally find it distracting. And then there are people for whom it would simply be more enjoyable and convenient to be able to consume a film or show without having to actively read every piece of dialogue. I think there's a fair but subtle stance which is to say "The original acting is often higher quality than the dub voiceover, so the original film and its original actor performances should be enjoyed and subtitles are thus preferable when possible; however, if you need or want to use dubs, then its cool they exist" I generally prefer subs because I'm comfortable with them and I like hearing the original language and performance. But for some things the dub is a really high quality (Disney dubs of Studio Ghibli, for example) and/or I want to be able to look away from the screen without losing track of what's being said, so I watch dubs too. And yeah, if its a personal accessibility thing, then that's great if its an option. One thing that gets even more subtle is that ideally you need 2 different subtitle tracks for foreign films, as often the dub will alter the translation somewhat. I had a friend recently upset because the Netflix subtitles didn't match the english language she was watching, and she thought they were just wrong. I pointed out that they actually matched the direct translation of the Japanese. So at that point you need separate Closed Captions for if you're watching in English but also still want text on screen to help with hearing. But I don't think most people who even say "dubs are better!" are saying "subs should never exist and gently caress you if you have trouble reading"
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Feb 10, 2020 19:52
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Feb 10, 2020 19:53
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Man, Godzilla films have to be dubbed (Except for Shin Godzilla, the one truly scary Godzilla film) it's part of the fun! Edit: drat it Zaphod, why?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:54
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My further contribution is that I cared so little about Justice League that I didn't even notice there was something funny with Superman's face.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:56
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Oh and I'll point out one thing about subtitles. I love subtitles when watching some UK shows. I'm pretty sure Scotland is just loving with the rest of the world with a really long troll. What the gently caress are those people saying.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:57
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STAC Goat posted:My further contribution is that I cared so little about Justice League that I didn't even notice there was something funny with Superman's face. I'ven't seen it.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:59
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Croatoan posted:Oh and I'll point out one thing about subtitles. I love subtitles when watching some UK shows. I'm pretty sure Scotland is just loving with the rest of the world with a really long troll. What the gently caress are those people saying. Hahaha, subtitles definitely help with Limmy's Show even though its in English (or is it?)
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Feb 10, 2020 19:59
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zoux posted:I'ven't seen it. I thought it was better than Aquaman. I'd say I gotta stop watching DCEU movies but Shazam was alright.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:00
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I didn't see Birds of Prey but I guess I wasn't the only one lol
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Feb 10, 2020 20:02
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Wonder Woman was pretty good. WW '84 looks awesome.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:04
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Wonder Woman has a couple of good scenes but most of it is eh. Everything on Amazon Island is weird
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Feb 10, 2020 20:06
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zoux posted:Wonder Woman has a couple of good scenes but most of it is eh. Everything on Amazon Island is weird The beginning was really boring, the end was the end of Captain America but with More CGI This Time. The middle had like 15 enjoyable minutes. It was an improvement over most other DC movies but I don’t think I’d call it a good movie.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:08
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Wonder Woman's biggest problem is that all the DC movies so far have horrible villains with zero personality, no clear stakes or motivation. Its a decent movie that is shot well and works fine as a comic book movie, but the plot just kinda peters off at the end. Its on like the same level as say Thor or Iron Man 2, but not as good as like Iron Man 1. I hope now that the origin story is out of the way we can get some better plot development. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Feb 10, 2020 20:10
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Wonder Woman was good but yeah it kind of felt like a middle of the road MCU film that stood out in contrast to the tone of the previous DCEU films. But I like MCU films so like, I had no major complaints.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:15
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birds of prey is good, btw
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Feb 10, 2020 20:21
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Zaphod42 posted:Its funny that studios keep spending millions to CG faces when the deepfakes are arguably better looking and less uncanny valley. For sure, they're just super low res right now. As soon as the resolution can be amped up to 4K levels get ready for way more digital resurrections. e: also, Cavill should have the mustache in every film he makes from now on. It takes him from being a good-looking but fairly generic bro looking fella to being a handsome-as-gently caress lumberjack. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Feb 10, 2020 20:22
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Norsemen is a very dumb joke that I am enjoying that doesn't overstay its welcome
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Feb 10, 2020 20:25
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RBA Starblade posted:Norsemen is a very dumb joke that I am enjoying that doesn't overstay its welcome Yeah it's just the one joke isn't it. I only saw a couple of eps before I was like "yeah, got it, it's funny when Vikings do viking poo poo but talk like modern people"
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Feb 10, 2020 20:26
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zoux posted:Yeah it's just the one joke isn't it. I only saw a couple of eps before I was like "yeah, got it, it's funny when Vikings do viking poo poo but talk like modern people" The joke with the slave one day from retirement would have been better if the arrows had hit the guy next to him though
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Feb 10, 2020 20:27
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Phenotype posted:
First two episodes were quite average but 3 was an improvement and 4 was kinda great.
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Feb 10, 2020 22:14
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Sex education got renewed for a third season  https://twitter.com/netflixuk/status/1226898652880347137?s=21
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Feb 10, 2020 22:54
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Ignis posted:Sex education got renewed for a third season yay!
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Feb 10, 2020 23:02
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Zaphod42 posted:It sounds like the problem is whoever is writing it isn't a big enough nerd and isn't familiar enough with true MMO elements, just the surface veneer of what everybody understands fantasy videogames incorporate? I mean, writers include Charlie Day, Rob McElhenny, Megan Ganz and Ashley Burch (who, as some may or may not know, does a lot of video game voice acting, like Aloy in "Horizon Zero Dawn", Parvati in "The Outer Worlds" or Chloe in "Life is Strange") and Ubisoft is also heavily involved in the production. They've probably intentionally avoided going full nerd and simplified a lot for a broader appeal, but there's definetly enough background to go around.
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Just finished season 2 of Dark. Really good show. Thought the dubbing would be annoying but turns out I barely noticed.
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Feb 11, 2020 00:38
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Taika is a worldwide treasure and very handsome, thank you new zealand
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Niwrad posted:Just finished season 2 of Dark. Really good show. Thought the dubbing would be annoying but turns out I barely noticed. it's better in german
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bowmore posted:Taika is a worldwide treasure and very handsome, thank you new zealand Once every ten or so years New Zealand gives us an incredible gift like Taika and I am so grateful.
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Feb 11, 2020 01:08
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My opinion on dubs vs subs is that if it is live action I watched subtitles but if it is cartoon/cg I go with dub.
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Feb 11, 2020 01:09
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bowmore posted:it's better in german The dialogue works better in German, imo...
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Feb 11, 2020 02:27
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:The dialogue works better in German, imo...
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Feb 11, 2020 02:37
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Yeah, I mean English and German are really close, but I think the show loses something when out of its native tongue.
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Feb 11, 2020 03:09
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Avenue Five Cancer poo poo Death Trap
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Avenue 5 is definitely getting better as it goes. The first two episodes were pretty blah but three and four were a lot of fun.
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