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Tars Tarkas posted:It's time for Rambo Plissken!
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Feb 11, 2020 16:09
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FlamingLiberal posted:This sounds awful and also like one of those right-wing movies that some rich rear end in a top hat funded that nobody will end up seeing the chinese version will add a line: "This is what happened to Hong Kong when it split from the mainland"
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Feb 11, 2020 16:12
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feedmyleg posted:Which, I'm guessing, is why they named the film Birds of Prey to further divorce it from that film. But it looks like WB thinks "Fantabulous" is what's turned people off, rather than the film's clear connection to that other awful looking film which was critically reviled. To some degree they're probably right—like 5% of the missing 50% of its audience potential probably read that with the same eye-roll as someone using "amazeballs" in 2020. But the other 20% they lost to outright misogyny and 25% to people finding Harley Quinn obnoxious so they were kinda screwed from the get-go. Harley is popular enough with comic fans (especially gen x and younger) that it was probably something they had to try but yeah they really stacked the deck against themselves. Even the decision to go the week between the super bowl and Valentine's day which has to be a major death week of entertainment.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:05
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Harley is so popular that she was the breakout star of the first film and instantly got a spinoff. The failure to sell you on the movie is theirs alone.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:08
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Harley was going to be the breakout star of any film she was in, no matter how bad.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:16
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Well no, not really.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:18
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They didn't even throw Jared Leto a bone for this one. I find it hilarious that everybody has already forgotten that he played the Joker a few years ago.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:22
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Harley merch is also off the charts compared to the other characters. The logic behind the commercial viability of BoP makes sense, they just released it at a bad time and gave it such awful advertising. I don’t even think the title was the problem. I also think it might have been a bad idea to release it so close to the gritty and serious take on her boyfriend.
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Feb 11, 2020 18:44
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Incel Joker has no girlfriend Incel Joker needs no girlfriend Incel Joker needs no society
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Feb 11, 2020 19:16
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I think the R rating probably also hurt Bird if Prey’s numbers, it wasn’t sold as an EDGY MOVIE for ADULTS, it looked like a wacky action romp that could easily have been PG-13. That said, the R rating is what’s got me really interested.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:21
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Alan Smithee posted:Incel Joker has no girlfriend Excuse me but Joker has a brand new girlfriend named Punchline now (I am not making that up)
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Feb 11, 2020 19:36
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I think the R rating probably also hurt Bird if Prey’s numbers, it wasn’t sold as an EDGY MOVIE for ADULTS, it looked like a wacky action romp that could easily have been PG-13. That said, the R rating is what’s got me really interested. it's not the world's hardest R, but the action scenes are violent beyond what you can reasonably do in a PG-13, there's a lot of swearing (and used in such a way that trying to mute it instead of using alternate takes would give you a weird "Pulp Fiction TV edit" vibe), there's a beat in one of the action sequences where Harley accidentally does a poo poo-ton of coke, and there's a scene where Ewan MacGregor sexually assaults someone that's kind of rough
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Feb 11, 2020 19:38
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https://twitter.com/TheAVClub/status/1227297767707611142?s=20
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Feb 11, 2020 19:56
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I think the R rating probably also hurt Bird if Prey’s numbers, it wasn’t sold as an EDGY MOVIE for ADULTS, it looked like a wacky action romp that could easily have been PG-13. That said, the R rating is what’s got me really interested.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:57
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was fine with Deadpool But Deadpool’s whole ad campaign was “this isn’t your normal comic book movie, we say gently caress,” Birds of Prey didn’t have any of that edge in its marketing.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:05
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I legitimately had no idea it was R until the opinion articles about why it failed came around.
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Feb 11, 2020 23:50
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Prowler posted:I legitimately had no idea it was R until the opinion articles about why it failed came around. I didn't realize it was R until the first bits of ultraviolence or swear word. None of it seemed necessary or added anything. I wouldn't feel bad about watching the movie on a plane, though.
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Feb 11, 2020 23:58
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Tars Tarkas posted:Excuse me but Joker has a brand new girlfriend named Punchline now That's not funny
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Feb 12, 2020 00:21
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I don't think I ever saw the actual full trailer for Harley so just from the TV ads I never got what the movie was really about. Is Ewan McGregor trying to kill all of them?
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Feb 12, 2020 01:14
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Rudy with a hard R
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Feb 12, 2020 01:16
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Lobok posted:I don't think I ever saw the actual full trailer for Harley so just from the TV ads I never got what the movie was really about. Is Ewan McGregor trying to kill all of them? Ewan plays the supervillain/gangster "Black Mask" who wears a skull head mask, which is hard to tell from the trailers because he doesn't actually wear the mask all that much in the movie.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:52
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muscles like this! posted:Ewan plays the supervillain/gangster "Black Mask" who wears a skull head mask, which is hard to tell from the trailers because he doesn't actually wear the mask all that much in the movie. If I remember correctly, he wears it for roughly one scene toward the end and then immediately takes it off.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:08
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It’s so he can maintain The moral high ground
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Feb 12, 2020 03:12
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God, this is such a lovely world I can't even remember what mass killing it was that made them delay this.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:20
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Chances are there will be another one between now and it's release date to delay it again. 
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Feb 12, 2020 03:32
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It wasn't a mass killing, The Hunted was the one where QAnon is true and liberals are secretly kidnapping Trump supporters to hunt them for sport.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:48
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They didn't even throw Jared Leto a bone for this one. I find it hilarious that everybody has already forgotten that he played the Joker a few years ago. I wonder if WB are hedging their bets against him in case the sex pest rumors turn out to be true. I think all the DCU stuff he was involved in either got shelved or heavily re-tooled to conveniently not involve him.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:48
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They didn't even throw Jared Leto a bone for this one. I find it hilarious that everybody has already forgotten that he played the Joker a few years ago. Oh yeah the bad Mr Cool Ice cosplay guy. He was in that? Huh.
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Feb 12, 2020 03:52
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I wonder if WB are hedging their bets against him in case the sex pest rumors turn out to be true. I think all the DCU stuff he was involved in either got shelved or heavily re-tooled to conveniently not involve him. I wonder if they're scrambling to replace both Amber Heard and Johhny Depp (in Fantastic Beasts)
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Feb 12, 2020 03:56
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I wonder if WB are hedging their bets against him in case the sex pest rumors turn out to be true. I think all the DCU stuff he was involved in either got shelved or heavily re-tooled to conveniently not involve him. Sony doesn't seem to have a problem with him seeing as he's headlining a Marvel movie for them.
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Feb 12, 2020 04:39
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FlamingLiberal posted:This sounds awful and also like one of those right-wing movies that some rich rear end in a top hat funded that nobody will end up seeing Joke is that it's Chinese-funded. I had heard about this a couple years ago, but had thought they wanted an Asian-American as the Plissken stand-in, since it was supposed to be a Chinese-American former Marine since he would be Chinese but have some American background to infiltrate the Little America ghetto.
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Feb 12, 2020 05:29
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muscles like this! posted:Sony doesn't seem to have a problem with him seeing as he's headlining a Marvel movie for them. Is Morbius very popular in the comics? Him getting his own solo movie always seemed weird to me, but I only know about him from his appearance in the 1994 Spider-Man show.
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Feb 12, 2020 05:42
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It wasn't a mass killing, The Hunted was the one where QAnon is true and liberals are secretly kidnapping Trump supporters to hunt them for sport. This is meant to be a bad thing in the movie right
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Feb 12, 2020 06:01
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Is Morbius very popular in the comics? Him getting his own solo movie always seemed weird to me, but I only know about him from his appearance in the 1994 Spider-Man show. Not really. I think this one just somehow slipped through the cracks of Sony's "throw every Spider-Man character into a movie script and see what sticks" phase. Like the Aunt May movie, or the Silver Sable and Black Cat movie.
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Feb 12, 2020 06:04
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Is Morbius very popular in the comics? Him getting his own solo movie always seemed weird to me, but I only know about him from his appearance in the 1994 Spider-Man show. I'm pretty sure the upcoming movie is mostly because Sony is trying to squeeze every last drop of blood out of their Spider-Man licence (remember how they were going to do an Aunt May prequel film? And a Sinister Six film? And a Black Cat/Silver Sable film?) and Marvel have been unsuccessfully trying to make him a thing for a long time. They keep bringing him back every few years and trying to wedge him into other media but he never really takes off. He was originally included as a sequel hook at the end of the original Blade movie but was dropped from the final cut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL-qxNcFcoA
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Feb 12, 2020 06:06
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Baron von Eevl posted:God, this is such a lovely world I can't even remember what mass killing it was that made them delay this. It was actually the president tweeting about how offended he was by it even though he completely misunderstood the premise.
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Feb 12, 2020 06:37
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Propaganda 101: Make the enemy seem both impossibly strong, but impossibly incompetent. Make 'us' look capable, scrapy, and never weak. Not that I think Trump is anywhere near smart enough to realize that. But somewhere in his lizard brain, he's capable of realizing that the movie is showing 'Libs can capture us, libs making us look weak'. You can't even introduce the concept that The Enemy might be able to win one over you, otherwise you are introducing the concept of doubt.
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Feb 12, 2020 06:53
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Propaganda 101: Make the enemy seem both impossibly strong, but impossibly incompetent. Make 'us' look capable, scrapy, and never weak. The movie you're thinking of was made by Nazis in 1945 and it's called Kolberg.
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got any sevens posted:I just saw Birds o Prey and it owned and didnt give any fucks about being serious and i was laughing throughout It was great and funny and they actually filmed the fights in long takes at a distance where you could see what was happening.
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