Warframe: Party Like It's 1999

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Psion: Dec 13, 2002; eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

central dogma posted:

If you weren't having fun during the time you invested in all those things, then what was it even worth to begin with? Is it pure dopamine response?

I never understood the rationale of people who think only they deserve something because they either had it first or grinded longer for it.

If someone else getting something that only you had cheapens your experience or memories, then maybe you greatly overestimated the value of those experiences to begin with. I'm sorry you feel like you wasted all that time and I hope you think carefully before investing so much time on a digital item again.

Edit: Oh gently caress, were you quoting from reddit or something?

i mean yes they were quoting the forums but you're totally right. This mindset is selfish FYGM and I also guarantee if someone called them out on this they will be shocked and betrayed and angry for whoever dared say that to them because they have literally never considered it

(but it's totally selfish FYGM)

# ? Feb 14, 2020 18:38

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 18:25

Fitzy Fitz: May 14, 2005

lmao @ "first they came for primed chamber, and I did not speak out," the post

# ? Feb 14, 2020 18:40

Pipski: Apr 18, 2004

Other than a lucky transmute, is there currently any way to get hold of a second Amalgam Serration? I neeeed one.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 19:03

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

BMan posted:

Before you comment without reading the whole thing, let me just politely inform you this probably isn't going where you think it's going.

I bought primed chamber almost two years ago.

When I did the going prime was about 50k, sometimes more, sometimes less but usually about there. That's what I got it for.

It took me four months to find a seller who actually had it and wanted to sell it for market price. I found the seller through random chance in a comment on reddit one of my friends had spotted. The person hadn't logged on in a long time, but I managed to convince them to log back on and farmed the credits for the trade with them.

That was the end of four months of searching, and that was after I had accumulated the plat. A bit of it was from prime access but the vast majority came from trading. I traded prime sets, mods, arcanes and whatever else I could make plat off of. A lot of the plat was made from things I farmed and sold, and a lot of it was profits from things I flipped.

By the time I started that grind I had most other things in the game I could get my hands, so going for primed chamber felt like the final achievement. It wasen't shown in the codex so your mod collection would still feel complete without it, but I wanted the truly complete mod collection.

Finally getting it felt like the best thing in the world. It felt so tangible, to have something uniqute like that which only about a hundred other people had.

By the time I got it, it had been gone for the game for about 5 years. You can think I'm naive if you want, but I thought that if it hadn't come back for 5 whole years it never would.

And, I thought it wouldn't even make sense to bring it back. One of the things that warframe has always been about is the loot. Whether it's guns, swords, mods or warframes themselves getting and having loot has always felt good, because even if you know it's just 1's and 0's it feels tangible and real, and it feels like yours. I know some people care more than others about that, but I think everyone should be able to recognize it as something that really matters in warframe.

For things to feel real and tangible it's important that they also have some kind of value. Monetary value in terms of plat is one type of value, but it always fluctuates at least a little bit, but it's not really the true value of something.

To me, the closest we can get to the true value is time invested. There's a lot of things in this game which aren't tradable, but they still feel valuable because they took time and effort to get.

That's why, whenever any type of change is made to warframe, DE should ideally always think about how it affects the things that players have spent time and effort on.

It's not always the most important, but it should always be given thought.

It's become a more and more frequent occurence, that I feel the time I've put in has been disregarded after the fact. This is just what I can remember off the top of my head:

The resource system in plains of eidolon were gutted. You went from needing over a thousand nyth and sentirum to craft full arcane sets, to needing 5 of each for a single amp part and gauss part. It's now likely that a single thumper kill will drop more of these resources than you'll ever need.
Arcanes have at the absolute maximum a quarter of the value they had when they were from raids
Arcane helmets were made to conflict with an arcane slot, and the arcanes were buffed heavily.
A lot of prime accesses were sold before it was apparent every single one of them would eventually come back cheaper.
Vitus essense droprate from arbitrations was close to tripled in the rework.
Lich ephemeras started at 5% droprate, they're 20% now, after you had plenty of time to farm them.
The first nightwave started with an exclusive weapon that was hard to get, and ended with a weapon that was trivial to farm a ton of copies of.
The droprate of vidar reactors was doubled and the stat range made narrower, after you had the holidays to farm them.

The amount of times droprates have been buffed and content has been dumbed down or basically been made skipable many months after it's release is astounding. It's become the norm rather than something that is done when neccesary.

I've kept dismissing the way I feel about this, but now I can't anymore.

If primed chamber wasen't safe after 7 years, then nothing is.

Your warframes, your weapons and your mods can get the exact same treatment anytime.

This just sucks, and I hate it, and the thing that I hate the most about it isn't even that I'm 50k plat or however much it's worth now down, it's that I'll most likely never recover that feeling of tangibility that I had for all my stuff in this game.

You can think of me what you want for my emotional investment in warframe, the hours I've put in and my opinions on it. I don't care. I know it's just a video game, but warframe has been a big part of my life for the past 4 years, and I care deeply about it. If you think that's stupid I can't really argue.

It feels like not even the game itself cares about the time I've put in anymore, so why do I continue to bother...

Whatever, I just needed to get all that off my chest.

ah, so this is Moby Dick

# ? Feb 14, 2020 19:10

Avynte: Jun 30, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

BMan posted:

[Primed Chamber Tears]

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:07

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:08

v1ld: Apr 16, 2012

Forums say a Primed Chamber sold for 350,000 plat last month. If true, that might be what led to this re-release. I don't know if DE want items with that kind of pricing in their economy. Do other games have stuff selling for this kind of real world equivalent?

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:26

BMan: Oct 31, 2015; KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK

v1ld posted:

Do other games have stuff selling for this kind of real world equivalent?

Oh, my sweet summer child

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:33

Horace Kinch: Aug 15, 2007

v1ld posted:

Forums say a Primed Chamber sold for 350,000 plat last month. If true, that might be what led to this re-release. I don't know if DE want items with that kind of pricing in their economy. Do other games have stuff selling for this kind of real world equivalent?

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:37

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

v1ld posted:

Do other games have stuff selling for this kind of real world equivalent?

Are we including gacha games in this question?

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:41

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

So do I want this Primed Chamber thing or not? I might have enough stuff to sell to get one.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:43

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

prefect posted:

So do I want this Primed Chamber thing or not? I might have enough stuff to sell to get one.

do you use rifles that only have 1 round in the chamber a lot? then it's... not bad?

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:51

FunkyFjord: Jul 18, 2004

Hey EVE goons what was the total amount of real money and total work hours put in to constructing that first titan that you all completely wrecked with starter ships shortly after it finished building.

There are bound to be even better examples of thousands of dollars and tens of thousands of hours of accumulated effort evaporated in a single event.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:54

central dogma: Feb 25, 2012; Come to the Undead Settlement in the next 20 mins if u want an ash kicking

Depends. Are sniper rifles, especially vectis, your favorite weapon? Do you already have paracesis?

I'm passing bc I can already one shot synovial with multiple loadouts.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:54

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Or weapons that can easily be reduced to 1 round magazines, like the Vectis Prime
Allegedly with my Vectis riven I can make mine do 111k damage per shot on average

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:54

Anora: Feb 16, 2014; I fuckin suck!🪠

Raptor1033 posted:

Is... Is DE trolling me with this 3,000 ducat primed chamber?

Yes, but I managed to pull it off... Shame Tonkor doesn't count as a sniper even though it uses sniper ammo.

https://twitter.com/GundamJoe/status/1228406372427010050

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:55

BMan: Oct 31, 2015; KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK

The vectis (prime) is literally the only gun in the game that wants that mod

# ? Feb 14, 2020 20:56

Erulisse: Feb 12, 2019; A bad poster trying to get better.

Next in Baro shop - Prime Excalibur for only 4995 Ducats�
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# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:08

Echophonic: Sep 16, 2005; ha;lp; Gun Saliva

Yeah, my jaw dropped a bit when I saw that Primed Chamber. Sold off a lot of my vaulted junk because eh, there's always more and I was only keeping it to give to friends anyway. And, really, who is Baro if he's not a friend?

# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:32

necrobobsledder: Mar 21, 2005; Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll; Nap Ghost

If you have already used all your ducats for other items you care to buy, it's perfectly fine. I still have like 4k ducats worth of crap I'm hoarding for reasons my lizard brain cannot and will not explain to me.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 21:51

nerdz: Oct 12, 2004; Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.; Grimey Drawer

v1ld posted:

Forums say a Primed Chamber sold for 350,000 plat last month. If true, that might be what led to this re-release. I don't know if DE want items with that kind of pricing in their economy. Do other games have stuff selling for this kind of real world equivalent?

https://www.fraghero.com/10-most-expensive-virtual-goods-ever-sold/

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10 Most Expensive Virtual Goods Ever Sold
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If you�re still bitter about having to pony up extra cash for DLC, this list is definitely going to make you feel some type of way. These huge transactions bring a whole new meaning to the phrase �pay-to-win�, as people drop incredible fortunes on games.

Spending a couple bucks extra for a different outfit for a character doesn�t seem nearly as bad when you see people spending six, and even seven-figures on their favorite games. We�re maxing out at 2 items on this list from Entropia, otherwise this entire list would be sales from that game, including planets, moons, and even banking licenses which can fetch around $100,000 each.

10. Karambit Crimson Web (Minimal Wear) � CS:GO � $2,000
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Let�s start things off relatively inexpensively. If $2,000 for an in-game knife seems insane, that�s only because you haven�t seen the rest of this list yet.

9. Blue Party Hat � Runescape � $4,500
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The blue party hat is a relic from the holiday season of 2001, and was immediately deleted by most people who won it from their Christmas Crackers for its seemingly uselessness, thus leading to it ultimately becoming rare and very valuable. Other colors of hats are also worth quite a bit.

8. Revenant Super Carrier � Eve Online � $9,000
image: reddit.com
image: reddit.com

This ship requires a very rare blueprint to build, and is worth billions of in-game ISK, which translates to $9,000 USD and earns it a spot as one of the most expensive virtual items. Unfortunately for the guy who owned it, the ship was destroyed shortly after construction completed.

7. Zeuzo � World of Warcraft � $9,500
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This level 70 Elf (the max level at the time) was wearing some of the best and rarest items, helped the owner fetch such a huge price. The only problem was that the character was deleted shortly after for violating Blizzard�s terms of service regarding the sale of characters. That�s got to sting.

6. Echoing Fury Mace � Diablo 3 � $14,000
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The guy who had this item drop sold it for a measly $250, and it was bought and sold a few more times, until somebody finally realized how valuable this item was and and sold it for a cool 14k, or roughly 40 billion in in-game gold.

5. Sword � Age of Wulin � $16,000
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This game was hugely anticipated in China, and players had a chance to bid on in-game items before the launch, in an auction format. The guy who picked up this one-of-a-kind sword was able to effortlessly cruise through the game with a massive head start.

4. Ethereal Flames Pink War Dog � Dota 2 � $38,000
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Having a puppy in real life can be expensive, but this Dota 2 pooch is off the charts. As long as you try not to think about how much good actual pet shelters could have done with this cash, it�s not too bad.

3. Amsterdam � Second Life � $50,000
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You can create your own businesses in Second Life, and there are people who make their living in this digital world. One of those businesses was the city of Amsterdam, modeled after the real-life version, which fetched $50,000 in an eBay auction.

2. Crystal Palace Space Station � Entropia � $330,000
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At the time of the sale, this was the biggest one, overtaking the original Club Neverdie sale price of $100,000 before it was later re-sold for much more.

1. Club Neverdie � Entropia � $635,000
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image: dailymail.co.uk

This virtual nightclub in the Entropia universe was originally purchased for $100,000, however after some increased mining activities, then dividing it up to sell to multiple parties, the guy who originally bought it was able to sell it for over 6 times what he paid.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:11

Jay-Roden: Jul 22, 2018; My leg is hungry.

Blood for the Blood God!
Skulls for the Skull Throne!

Raptor1033 posted:

Rhino has big beefy shoulders to begin with and the armor selection has been slowly expanding. Pauldron-esque stuff includes Saturn Six gear, Galvanik, a bunch other I don't remember. Browse, baby! There's also a whole bunch of fancy prime attachments that I know nothing about from RMT.

oh, and browsing stuff you don't own from within your frame's customization screens is a little better to navigate than going through the marketplace

I found the kuva attachments and man some look great and some look down right hideous, like the leg thing are just :nexus:

. I do like the shoulder ones though they have made some of my fastion frames look allot more like i wanted.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:11

Anora: Feb 16, 2014; I fuckin suck!🪠

Holy poo poo, Vet Protect just liked my video of me hit Venari with the Bramma and a Nukor.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 22:24

Guilty: May 3, 2003; Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity

nerdz posted:

https://www.fraghero.com/10-most-expensive-virtual-goods-ever-sold/

Holy poo poo, that echoing fury mace in d3 for 14k is now a relatively common item that people keep scrapping for parts

Edit: and has been for 5+ years

# ? Feb 14, 2020 23:28

Psion: Dec 13, 2002; eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Pipski posted:

Other than a lucky transmute, is there currently any way to get hold of a second Amalgam Serration? I neeeed one.

it might not be in the transmute list so don't burn all your credits trying before confirming that

wiki has it as Untransmutable, so the answer might be "you don't"

# ? Feb 14, 2020 23:40

v1ld: Apr 16, 2012

BMan posted:

Oh, my sweet summer child

After reading the examples, all I can say is: yes, and I will stay here in the warm light.

I haven't even heard of some of these games - the sweet innocence of Warframe being the only online game I play with trading is fine with me.

# ? Feb 14, 2020 23:49

Zereth: Jul 9, 2003

v1ld posted:

Was scannable vegetation introduced just for Titania? And then never used again?

You can make a couple of other things with plants, but I've never used them for anything. I forget what they even do.

Pipski posted:

Other than a lucky transmute, is there currently any way to get hold of a second Amalgam Serration? I neeeed one.

Not even that, it's untransmutable.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 00:10

Pipski: Apr 18, 2004

Zereth posted:

Not even that, it's untransmutable.

Psion posted:

it might not be in the transmute list so don't burn all your credits trying before confirming that

wiki has it as Untransmutable, so the answer might be "you don't"

Well, bugger. That is unfortunate.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 01:26

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Jay-Roden posted:

Is there pauldrons now? I need then for my wh40k framea if so.

Rhino Prime, Graxx skin, Prime details on, Kuva Tireg shoulder plates. My shoulders are indestructible.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 02:21

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
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FunkyFjord posted:

Hey EVE goons what was the total amount of real money and total work hours put in to constructing that first titan that you all completely wrecked with starter ships shortly after it finished building.

There are bound to be even better examples of thousands of dollars and tens of thousands of hours of accumulated effort evaporated in a single event.

iirc the credit cost converted into actual cash was something like $3000

# ? Feb 15, 2020 04:40

hazardousmouse: Dec 17, 2010

I'm back on my bullshit. What are some good rolls for cyanex and dual keres rivens?

Somewhat considering farming or fleecing a pub for PCC just to spite those people hoarding the originals

# ? Feb 15, 2020 05:03

Mesadoram: Nov 4, 2009; Serious Business

Well now, this weapon is kinda nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNnlRjpTfg

# ? Feb 15, 2020 07:37

Tei: Feb 19, 2011

I have 4 of these black mods for liches.

How many more of these cards should I collect before I try to create my first liche? , how many hours that will be?

It seems getting one of these cards is RNG based, so you can play for two hours and get 0 of these cards.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 09:52

Shrimp or Shrimps: Feb 14, 2012

Tei posted:

I have 4 of these black mods for liches.

How many more of these cards should I collect before I try to create my first liche? , how many hours that will be?

It seems getting one of these cards is RNG based, so you can play for two hours and get 0 of these cards.

Yeah I just popped like 12 relics and never got the rune I needed it was very frustrating until kind goon helped me.

With that said, if you need any, just ask in clan chat, someone may have spares. I've got like 6 Khras and Xatas and would be happy to give some away.

Also, the mods can be used 3 times before they are 'spent'.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 11:30

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

FunkyFjord posted:

Hey EVE goons what was the total amount of real money

About 0, not counting subscription fees. That is, by the way, always the answer to "how much real money" regarding expensive items in Eve.

FunkyFjord posted:

and total work hours put in to constructing that first titan that you all completely wrecked with starter ships shortly after it finished building.

It wasn't wrecked with starter ships, but back then wrecks were collidable so it was possible to hold down the titan while other ships put actual damage on it.

And the hours thing is probably lost in time. It was a group effort back then because resource extraction was so inefficient. Nowadays you can mine a titan in a week, basically�

# ? Feb 15, 2020 12:04

FunkyFjord: Jul 18, 2004

Tei posted:

liches.

I think there are eight total, but ya I would also suggest just gathering however many and then trading extra for the ones you don't have.

You'll only need three for your lich. You could create it now, start farming it and thralls for murmurs, and trade for the mods as you find out which ones you need.

The Kuva Bramma and Nukor might be the best of the batch, the Quartakk and Brakk are really solid too though.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 12:10

Zushio: May 8, 2008

Decided to actually give this as try on PS4 finally. How crazy am I and any real advice?

# ? Feb 15, 2020 12:19

Avynte: Jun 30, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

If you've got an ok PC, come join us there because the community is larger (easier trading) and gets patches first. Otherwise work through the star chart + junction objectives, do the quests, and dont neglect leveling your mods. They're the real source of power. Frame level let's you slot more and MR primarily unlocks more toys. Enemy level on missions is best looked at as a 'difficulty modifier' and bears no relation to the level of anything you have.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 12:47

Zushio: May 8, 2008

I sadly do not have a good PC.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 13:51

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 18:25

endlessmonotony: Nov 4, 2009; by Fritz the Horse

Zushio posted:

I sadly do not have a good PC.

Warframe is literally the best game ever made about scaling to hardware, so a good PC isn't necessary.

That said, fourth-generation i3 and up is the lower limit for "works fine", but there are people playing on Core 2's.

# ? Feb 15, 2020 14:50

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