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angra, bazett, and caren are the best characters nasu's ever written
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 06:03 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 10:29 |
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Redo carnival Phantasm but give Sakura good sketches
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 06:07 |
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its hosed up she didnt get to be in the grand prix
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 06:08 |
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Bazett is the Fate character I like relate to the most and all the emotional catharsis she gets is so good
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 06:13 |
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Also nthing that Hollow/Ataraxia is good and I feel like it really informs the story structures you find in FGO where there's a lot of dumb, but funny poo poo, but a lot of serious plot and drama for the main story parts too.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 07:17 |
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UBW Abridged put out its sixth episode today, which continues to be very entertaining.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 03:26 |
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Raxivace posted:I don't really have any problem with Shinji just being an evil rear end in a top hat (His motivation/backstory seems reasonably well established to me anyways in the VN), though it does beg the question why Shirou was ever friends with this guy to begin with. It's more that it would have been more interesting if he were written as more of an ambiguous character. Shinji has legitimate reasons to feel inadequate and angry, or to be envious of Sakura, and that could lead him to do bad things without taking it to a ridiculous mustache-twirling level. And I don't mean that he should be redeemed or anything, but he comes off as kind of comically/unrealistically malicious. Also, while not solely a Shinji thing, the whole Sakura situation has some pretty big issues in terms of "sexual violence as a plot device."
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 03:41 |
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It's not really a plot device so much as the entire point of the story
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 05:15 |
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Ytlaya posted:It's more that it would have been more interesting if he were written as more of an ambiguous character. Shinji has legitimate reasons to feel inadequate and angry, or to be envious of Sakura, and that could lead him to do bad things without taking it to a ridiculous mustache-twirling level. And I don't mean that he should be redeemed or anything, but he comes off as kind of comically/unrealistically malicious.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 10:49 |
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Rand Brittain posted:UBW Abridged put out its sixth episode today, which continues to be very entertaining. Archer continuously being shocked and frustrated by the Fate vs. UBW timelines will never not be hilarious.
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 15:16 |
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I thought it was a weaker episode but the moon bit was pretty good
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# ? Feb 15, 2020 17:31 |
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Easily the best episode of Babylonia this week. Probably the best episode possible, since it delivered the double Rin shriek, previously spoken of only in fable and myth.
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 03:05 |
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the best episode will probably remain 11
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# ? Feb 16, 2020 06:10 |
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Rand Brittain posted:UBW Abridged put out its sixth episode today, which continues to be very entertaining. So, as someone who hasn't seen the wider Fate stuff who wants to know the in-joke, what's the deal with the moon?
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 02:46 |
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The moon is a huge rear end in a top hat
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 02:49 |
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:So, as someone who hasn't seen the wider Fate stuff who wants to know the in-joke, what's the deal with the moon? Just absolute fractal weirdness. It's a vampire, it's an alien supercomputer, it's a Holy Grail, a big rock orbiting the Earth. Ask no further - that way, madness lies.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 02:55 |
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In the timeline of Fate/Extra, the moon is a supercomputer that's been recording all of human history and is the setting for all of the Extra games.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 03:39 |
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the moon is good if arcuied is any indication
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 03:42 |
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:So, as someone who hasn't seen the wider Fate stuff who wants to know the in-joke, what's the deal with the moon? In Tsukihime (and hinted at in the main Fate verse), the Ultimate One of the Moon aka the Type Moon aka Brunestud of the Crimson Moon is the origin of vampires and a huge rear end in a top hat that played a long con on Gaia to eventually take over the Earth, until his demise at the hands of Zelrecht (wielder of the Second Magic), who apparently picked a fight with Brunestud because he just didn't like the dude. He's pretty dead, but there's the possibility of him reincarnating if the right conditions are met. In the Extra verse, the moon is an alien supercomputer called the Moon Cell which has been recording events on Earth since the dawn of time, and eventually gets discovered and utilized by near future humanity. The Fate/Extra storyline and adjacents take place inside the Moon Cell (sort of like a virtual reality, but since it's so powerful it's truly created Reality Marbles within itself), which has set up a sort of Grail War in order to choose a human to be granted admin rights. As an aside, I believe Aoko's clash with the Flat Snark in Mahoyo is a callback to how Nasu said Zelrecth defeated Brunestud (Unlimited Ether Cannon vs Moon Fall).
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 03:53 |
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Yeah, that sounds high-concept.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 10:29 |
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Also at some point Arcuied steals the Moon from the future, leading to an apocalypse... or something. Been a while since I played Melty.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 10:33 |
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Not the apocalypse, She basically temporarily pulls the endpoint of Zepia's contract with her sister Altorouge, causing him to cease being the TATARI and merely be an obscenely powerful vampire, so that Sion and Shiki can kill him for good and not just disrupt his appearance this one time.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 13:27 |
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the moon is a shitpost and has two completely mutually exclusive yet extremely involved precepts for its existence, and to this day i'm really not sure which one is actually relevant to the rest of the setting, because it rarely comes up but when it does it sounds like both options are true one might think that the most important one is the moon supercomputer one that has like 4 recent console video games which star most of type-moon's most popular breakout characters, but IIRC every entry in that series seems to dismiss most of what happened in the previous entry, and yeah you can begin to see why archer weaponizes the idea of making the conversation about it, down this road lies 30 pages of everyone clearing up misconceptions every month
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 18:31 |
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This is why I want Fate to do some take on Princess Kaguya because you just know there would be some high level glorious nonsense.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:24 |
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We'll only see the chaldea servant's theatrical rendition of it. Gilgamesh will be directing
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:57 |
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Dr Pepper posted:This is why I want Fate to do some take on Princess Kaguya because you just know there would be some high level glorious nonsense. Stairmaster posted:We'll only see the chaldea servant's theatrical rendition of it. Gilgamesh will be directing A fool I tell you! (Actually, I don't think I would mind seeing Nasu write a Princess Kaguya story; especially with how the 'verse plays fast and loose with the rules)
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:34 |
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Will we find out that BB is short for Bamboo Baby?
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:39 |
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https://twitter.com/Neku_Mad_Lad/status/1228991111403732992
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:42 |
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Yeah like, when people talk about Nasu making their head hurt, the moon is a really really good example of why While the core of any given story makes sense and is perfectly sane, there's a lot of things in the periphery of the Nasuverse that are just absolute bugfuck crazy nonsense
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:19 |
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im the fanfic writer who thinks he loves to do nothing but pranks and goofs
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:46 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Yeah like, when people talk about Nasu making their head hurt, the moon is a really really good example of why My favorite example of this is "Conceptual Weapons," a special class of weapon with an unclear definition which, as far as I know, has only come up because Ciel was confused about Tohno Shiki's knife.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 22:50 |
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nrook posted:My favorite example of this is "Conceptual Weapons," a special class of weapon with an unclear definition which, as far as I know, has only come up because Ciel was confused about Tohno Shiki's knife. Conceptual weapons come up all the time, yo. Like half the NPs are one.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 02:16 |
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unrelated note, but is Oath Under Snow worth checking out if Prisma Illya otherwise makes me instinctively recoil? like I hate basically everything about that series for very obvious reasons, but it sounds like Oath Under Snow is 99% about alternate Shirou, doesn't have any weird pedo bait in it at all, and is more or less a perfectly cromulent Fate thing. and the Shirou vs Zombie Shinji fight loving whips rear end. e: also what the gently caress, does someone seriously think the Sakura episode of Carnival Phantasm isn't the best one it's a rough chuckle when you know HF, but the very same thing that makes it a rough chuckle makes it satisfying as hell since after the initial "here's a quick recap if you haven't read HF" part it's just wall-to-wall Rider dunking Shinji WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Feb 18, 2020 |
# ? Feb 18, 2020 03:13 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:unrelated note, but is Oath Under Snow worth checking out if Prisma Illya otherwise makes me instinctively recoil? Sorry. But Seihai Grand Prix (in Fuyuki) is the best CF episode.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 03:35 |
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that one owns too, "best CP episode" is kind of a hard question actually but the Sakura one is great and I will brook no dissent against it, Shinji getting owned by Rider is fantastic
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 03:43 |
AlternateNu posted:Sorry. But Seihai Grand Prix (in Fuyuki) is the best CF episode.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 03:49 |
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nrook posted:My favorite example of this is "Conceptual Weapons," a special class of weapon with an unclear definition which, as far as I know, has only come up because Ciel was confused about Tohno Shiki's knife. Isn't 7th Holy Scripture a Conceptual Weapon? LORD OF BOOTY posted:"best CP episode" is kind of a hard question actually Not if you're the FBI.
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 04:37 |
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...it just clicked for me why that dude abbreviated Carnival Phantasm as CF yeah that's unfortunate
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 05:18 |
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The best episode is Hercules The legendary journeys
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 05:21 |
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Paracelsus posted:Isn't 7th Holy Scripture a Conceptual Weapon? Yes, IIRC its core is basically a unicorn horn inscribed with an elaborate treatise written by The Holy Church that can be summed up as "Reincarnation is Bullshit and here is Why". Its an absolute rejection of the concept of Reincarnation/Immortality.
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