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Initially, Earnhardt's looked pretty tame as far as race car crashes go. That one killed him and Newman walks away from this one. Baffling.
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Ernie Irvan almost died TWICE in a race car. The second one was crazy, because he was keeping an eye out and everything. My first NASCAR memory is watching his yellow #4 Kodak car win the ‘91 Daytona 500.
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hunnert car pileup posted:I saw that Grissom wreck live when I was a kid also. Thankfully it was clear that he was alright pretty quickly. That wreck was the most bewildered I’ve ever been watching a race. We just couldn’t figure out how in the hell it happened.
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the actual worst-looking nascar crash i saw live that didn't involve serious injuries was jeff fuller's kentucky crash, where the entire car just buckled. the left side completely collapsed despite him hitting the wall with the right side of the car. he had a broken wrist and smoke inhalation.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Initially, Earnhardt's looked pretty tame as far as race car crashes go. That one killed him and Newman walks away from this one. Baffling. i don't mean to be morbid but "walks away" is no guarantee right now
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Feb 18, 2020 04:51
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kidcoelacanth posted:he and his wife just announced their separation so i imagine tonight was extremely weird for her his wife left him, he tried to end his own life, but God didn't want him dead
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Feb 18, 2020 04:54
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I vaguely remember a Busch race or an ARCA race where someone went over a wall and landed outside the track but I have no idea who it would have been.
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Feb 18, 2020 04:55
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sportsgenius86 posted:I vaguely remember a Busch race or an ARCA race where someone went over a wall and landed outside the track but I have no idea who it would have been. Probably Jimmy Horton at Talladega. Dude walked away pretty much unhurt while Stan Smith nearly died of a basilar skull fracture in the same crash.
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Feb 18, 2020 04:57
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I watched the start of the 1997 Atlanta race where Steve Grissom had his ugly wreck, but didn't actually see it happen as I went to a movie with friends. I think the first time I saw it was on Thrills and Spills.
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Feb 18, 2020 05:13
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CBJSprague24 posted:I don't think he had any choice in the sponsor, to be fair. I was taking photos of the finish, heard the crowd react in horror, and when I put my camera down saw the giant hole in the fence.  I have no idea how Ryan Newman is alive right now, but I'm grateful that he is.
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Feb 18, 2020 05:20
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surf rock posted:I thought I was desensitized to this kind of poo poo but I just watched that clip and literally screamed JESUS CHRIST at that loving impact That was my coworker's reaction. I remember that one when it happened and it was  to the extreme.
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Feb 18, 2020 05:26
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Holy poo poo, it’s absolutely amazing that he’s not in more serious condition right now. Let’s hope it’s something he can recover from and drive again. And if we’re talking about “  HOW ” wrecks then let’s not forget the Mercedes at Le Manshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21ZjwZGjiQ
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Feb 18, 2020 05:27
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Am I imagining but didnt Mike Waltrip car evaporate around him at Bristol but walked away and DW burst into tears thinking he just watch his brother die right?
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algebra testes posted:Am I imagining but didnt Mike Waltrip car evaporate around him at Bristol but walked away and DW burst into tears thinking he just watch his brother die right?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzxcuV5rmA4
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Feb 18, 2020 05:58
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Initially, Earnhardt's looked pretty tame as far as race car crashes go. That one killed him and Newman walks away from this one. Baffling. The ones that are tame looking tend to be the most dangerous. Dale hit the wall at pretty much full speed in the pre-HANS, pre-SAFER era. It's possible that either one of those things (as well as him not loosening his seatbelts on the last lap) saves his life, especially HANS. Cars going airborne, while bad and can end up like this today, usually are "good" in so far that a lot of speed gets scrubbed off mid-air, meaning the impact tends to be lessened. It means gently caress all if someone hits you at 200 MPH because they have no time to react though.
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Apraxin posted:yeah, the whole thing just flew off the frame, it's pretty Then 12 years later they still hadn't fixed that part of the track... Also the guy walks out the front of the car... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtID4k3UBw SLICK GOKU BABY fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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Feb 18, 2020 06:48
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sportsgenius86 posted:I vaguely remember a Busch race or an ARCA race where someone went over a wall and landed outside the track but I have no idea who it would have been. Going over the wall is one of those things that seems terrifying at first, but when you consider that there’s no sudden impact with the wall & there’s no cars to run into you while you’re tumbling, it’s a lot safer than it seems. ...well, for the driver at least.
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kidcoelacanth posted:i don't mean to be morbid but "walks away" is no guarantee right now I think we're looking at either a Robert Wickens or Sam Schmidt scenario for Newman. I'd be shocked if it was anything else.
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Feb 18, 2020 11:19
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Yeah the vibe I got last night was 'He's alive, but..' Fingers crossed.
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Feb 18, 2020 11:44
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CactusWeasle posted:Yeah the vibe I got last night was 'He's alive, but..' Yeah I got a vibe of he's not gunna die, but things aren't great
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iospace posted:The ones that are tame looking tend to be the most dangerous. Dale hit the wall at pretty much full speed in the pre-HANS, pre-SAFER era. It's possible that either one of those things (as well as him not loosening his seatbelts on the last lap) saves his life, especially HANS. Yeah, cars getting into the air is dangerous for drivers mostly because they can hit things that weren't designed to be hit with parts of the car that weren't designed to take a hard impact (and of course there's the risk of other people getting hurt when cars and/or parts end up in places they shouldn't be). And in an open-wheel car, leaving the ground is really, really bad, since the driver's head is exposed and doesn't even have the protection of a roll cage. A car just flipping or rolling on its own without getting hit or hitting other stuff is generally safer for the driver than a sudden hard impact, though. Similarly, whole sections of the car being crushed or flying off is actually better for the driver as long as the safety cage remains intact, as all of that dissipates energy and reduces the maximum G-forces that the driver experiences. It's when you hit the wall at an acute angle with some part of the car that has little or no crumple zone, causing the driver's body to go from 150+ MPH to almost zero in a fraction of a second, that really bad things happen, even though the car doesn't look as torn-up and the hit didn't look "spectacular". Newman's wreck here was a worst-case scenario; he was hit very hard directly in the roof right above the window net on the driver's side by another car. The cars today are designed with reinforced roll cages to prevent the roof from collapsing entirely in an impact, which were implemented after Dale Earnhardt Sr.'s crash at Talladega in 1996 where his car was struck in the front roof section while on its side (and after Russell Phillips was killed in a Sportsman race at Charlotte the same year in a  roof-impact crash), but there's only so much that you can do to strengthen the cage, and Newman's was just hit at the worst possible spot. It's a miracle that he survived that hit, really, and I hope he's going to be able to recover.
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Something I noticed - on Friday night, Ty Majeski flipped on his roof and they spent quite a while talking to him, and many minutes to slowly turn the truck back over. Last night, they had Newman's car back on its wheels very, very quickly. Honestly don't know how to read that - if anything - but it was curious.
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Feb 18, 2020 13:45
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CactusWeasle posted:Something I noticed - on Friday night, Ty Majeski flipped on his roof and they spent quite a while talking to him, and many minutes to slowly turn the truck back over. Not an EMT but, Newman could have been unconscious or something which expedited things on the track. Majeski was probably alert and talking and indicating he was fine and not injured so they took their time getting him upright.
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CactusWeasle posted:Something I noticed - on Friday night, Ty Majeski flipped on his roof and they spent quite a while talking to him, and many minutes to slowly turn the truck back over. Majeski got the window net down, meaning he was OK. Newman's driver side window was pinned against the ground.
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CactusWeasle posted:Something I noticed - on Friday night, Ty Majeski flipped on his roof and they spent quite a while talking to him, and many minutes to slowly turn the truck back over. Well considering Newman has serious injuries. He was probably both not conscious and probably visibly injured to the medical staff. So no time to waste getting him out of the car and getting treatment started.
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I'd imagine if his roll cage was compromised they'd want to get it upright to prevent the car collapsing any further onto Newman.
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https://twitter.com/Eric_RaceReview/status/1229765001365348352 You can see the digital dashboard inside and, not that it necessarily mattered at that point, but it looks like the window net is down/missing.
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iwentdoodie posted:Dude has made his career out of throwing lovely blocks, and has never showed an ounce of remorse or given a poo poo no matter what happens. The times I've met him he was an absolute cock even to his fans. Still thinking bout this post To actually contribute, it is still amazing that Newman survived this crash at all. That is almost always going to be the weakest part of the car, excluding the windshield. How do you reinforce further something you have to be able to climb out of quickly without loving up the center of gravity? Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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The very fact the words 'non-life-threathening' are being used at all boggles the mind.
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glyph posted:Holy poo poo, how did the fuel from Newman's car not light? Was that fuel or something else? The reason I ask is it was my understanding the fuel cells have been redesigned over the years so that they're pretty bulletproof. My dad wondered if it might've been radiator fluid when the car (thank gently caress) didn't explode after a few seconds.
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It had to be fuel, the only other thing in the car that would flow like that is the water for the radiator.
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It was definitely fuel, it just didn’t aerosolize and explode
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Feb 18, 2020 15:08
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I've never seen a director do a sudden close zoom like that on leaking fuel.
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Feb 18, 2020 15:09
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Me neither, it made it feel like the safety crew was slow getting there.
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big nipples big life posted:Me neither, it made it feel like the safety crew was slow getting there. Same. Thankfully, high octane, liquid gasoline is not that prone to ignition (as THM pointed out), but in the context of everything, it was "OH gently caress HURRY".
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Was listening to the local sports channel this morning and the guys made the point that today we are going to hear lots of informed stick and ball talking heads talk about "does auto racing need to end?" ugh
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Big Huski Boi posted:I've never seen a director do a sudden close zoom like that on leaking fuel. Yeah that was a ‘why the gently caress are we zooming in’ moment.
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hunnert car pileup posted:Probably Jimmy Horton at Talladega. Dude walked away pretty much unhurt that was a rare crash that looked horrific but was funny in the end. loving car flips over the wall and the first responder is a guy without a shirt holding a beer going "y'all alright??"
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that crash is instructive because Horton was fine but Stanley Smith, who "just" took a head-on hit into T1 was nearly killed- the first safety worker on the scene clearly saw some bad poo poo because he's borderline panicking looking into the car.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:that crash is instructive because Horton was fine but Stanley Smith, who "just" took a head-on hit into T1 was nearly killed- the first safety worker on the scene clearly saw some bad poo poo because he's borderline panicking looking into the car. I remember the guy who crashed with JD McDuffie said the scene inside the car was so bad he had to close his eyes.
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