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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Hedgehog Pie posted:

Das Wunderdick.

No matter how dicked you are, Germans are dicker.

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Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Low Desert Punk posted:

Is that who it looks like it is

if you're thinking Paul London, yes

he was a fan plant

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
Hell yeah. I loving love Paul London

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
I am severely disappointed about the lack of Alex Wright's dick in the latest image dump.

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh
Alex Wright and Norman Smiley could have been the number one penis-based tag team in wrestling and I am disappointed that WCW missed this opportunity.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

paul london looks 50 now but a cool 50

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Hedgehog Pie posted:

Didn't WCW manage to shoot themselves in the foot by mistreating some of their loaned New Japan talent too, or was it just Liger? That probably wouldn't quite fall under the same banner as misusing the likes of Bret Hart or even Mike Awesome, but it seems like it was unnecessary for them to just poo poo on their long-term relationship with New Japan. Then again, WCW seemed to like being unnecessary sometimes.

And what were the more detailed reasons why they didn't do anything with Bret anyway? Was he just doomed in the political environment dominated by Hogan and Nash? I get the feeling that neither of them thought much of him, Hogan from his WM9 antics and Nash through his Kliq connections. I mean, if Ric Flair was continually being dismissed by WCW then what hope did Bret have. :(


Das Wunderdick.

WCW booked liger to lose the IWGP Jr title to juvi without running it by new japan first

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
And did it by having Juventud hot Liger with a tequila bottle, because Russo.

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:
The only thing about Bret Hart in WCW I remember was him wearing that plate of armor under his shirt when Goldberg speared him :canada:

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hirez posted:

The only thing about Bret Hart in WCW I remember was him wearing that plate of armor under his shirt when Goldberg speared him :canada:

Had a good match with Benoit on the Owen tribute show

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:
not surprising

got me thinking did Benoit/Jericho ever train at the dungeon?

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Hirez posted:

not surprising

got me thinking did Benoit/Jericho ever train at the dungeon?

When jericho got there keith hart was there the first day of class collected money and peaced out, so there wasnt much of a dungeon left to train at

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Hirez posted:

The only thing about Bret Hart in WCW I remember was him wearing that plate of armor under his shirt when Goldberg speared him :canada:
This moment was supposed to be the start of his big push. He tricked Goldberg, got a visual pinfall on him in Canada, cut a promo on Bischoff, and then quit.

Then Kevin Nash went on The Tonight Show and said since Bret didn't work for WCW anymore, he couldn't wrestle him there, but he'd wrestle him on The Tonight Show. Another big bit of cross-promotion after their collaboration for Road Wild '98. But then Owen died and it all got scrapped. So they brought him back, he did the tribute match with Owen, and by the end of the year he was champ and nWo 2000 formed, but then Goldberg kicked him into retirement.

Trying
Sep 26, 2019


elaborate

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

If anything Douglas got better than he deserved in WCW. Even though he wasn't a main eventer he was a big focus of the upper midcard. And it exposed him, as much as somebody could be exposed in 2000 WCW. It taught us the sad lesson that ECW was about 90% smoke and mirrors.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


yeah 2000 Shane Douglas was just a black hole of charisma

like, he knew what to say but it just felt so cheesy and forced

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
The only thing I remember about Shane Douglas is him yelling "SAGINAW MICHIGAN" when Nitro was in a completely different town

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Hirez posted:

The only thing about Bret Hart in WCW I remember was him wearing that plate of armor under his shirt when Goldberg speared him :canada:

i was at this show live and we had no idea what was going on when they were just ying there until he pulled that plate out then we went fuckin nuts, it ruled

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

My primary memory of Shane Douglas in WCW was the Franchiser being the first wrestling move I really hated.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Better Than You posted:

The only thing I remember about Shane Douglas is him yelling "SAGINAW MICHIGAN" when Nitro was in a completely different town

Also that time Ric Flair destroyed him on the mic and he just starts shouting "I'M THE FRANCHISE! I'M THE FRANCHISE!" after being told that Sting is WCW's franchise

zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Feb 19, 2020

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

CarlCX posted:

My primary memory of Shane Douglas in WCW was the Franchiser being the first wrestling move I really hated.

Viagra on a pole match

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS






















Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Disappointing lack of Alex Wright pictures.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

CarlCX posted:

My primary memory of Shane Douglas in WCW was the Franchiser being the first wrestling move I really hated.
I've seen him on plenty of Nitros and I didn't even remember what it was. I had to look it up and hoo boy is it bad.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

They only kept Shane Douglas because Mark Madden liked saying franchise a whole lot.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Davey Boy Smith singing the US national anthem in Tiger stadium is loving me right up :psyduck:

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Shane Douglas finally got the feud he always wanted with Flair and ended up looking like a pathetic loser the entire time, that makes me laugh.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010





Is that one of Harlem Heat's hands? This is a weird poster choice.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
It has to be.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

DJExile posted:

Davey Boy Smith singing the US national anthem in Tiger stadium is loving me right up :psyduck:

I hope someone recorded this because I refuse to believe it happened.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


My favourite thing with that Pay Per View was every single New Japan wrestler from Liger to Sasaki had to be represented by Sonny Onoo. Because WCW.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

forkboy84 posted:

My favourite thing with that Pay Per View was every single New Japan wrestler from Liger to Sasaki had to be represented by Sonny Onoo. Because WCW.

The build to the Japan vs the US feud featured a lot of Sonny on Saturday night too. Super racist stuff.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

MassRafTer posted:

The build to the Japan vs the US feud featured a lot of Sonny on Saturday night too. Super racist stuff.

Also on the syndicated Pro show, for the last month or so before Starrcade, Onoo would take over the final 10 minutes of the program, which featured a squash with one of the Japanese wrestlers.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
Hey now, Sonny Onoo bought that time on WCW Saturday Night from Bobby Heenan fair and square.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


coconono posted:

I hope someone recorded this because I refuse to believe it happened.

yeah i really want to see this

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Hirez posted:

did Benoit/Jericho ever train at the dungeon?

OFFICER LIGER posted:

When jericho got there keith hart was there the first day of class collected money and peaced out, so there wasnt much of a dungeon left to train at
Yes, but remember, they were not training contemporaries. Benoit broke in about five years earlier as part of the Stampede relaunch. There was very much still a Dungeon then and Benoit let Stu put him in incredibly painful holds because respect or whatever.

But Mike Hammer did much of Benoit's actual pro wrestling training. The thing that a lot of people don't realize is that Stu generally wasn't doing the pro wrestling training as much as some vet in the territory would do it. Aging luchador Frank Butcher of all people trained Bruce Hart, Rick Martel, and the other guys who broke in through Calgary circa 1973. Mr. Hito and Kazuo Sakurada trained Bret Hart. Mike Hammer trained Benoit. There are probably a lot more I'm forgetting, and putting together a list would probably be weirdly interesting.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


davidbix posted:

Aging luchador Frank Butcher of all people trained Bruce Hart, Rick Martel, and the other guys who broke in through Calgary circa 1973. Mr. Hito and Kazuo Sakurada trained Bret Hart. Mike Hammer trained Benoit. There are probably a lot more I'm forgetting, and putting together a list would probably be weirdly interesting.

This would be really cool, yeah

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
Shane Douglas was really, really broken down by the time he got to WCW. poo poo, he was pretty toasted in ECW from all the accumulated injuries and then the weird deal with his sinuses exploding all the time. Then he made the mistake of "walking out" on WCW along with The Radicalz even though there was no way he could follow through with it, ECW and WWF didn't want him. He never was a political genius.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I admit I am excited to finally start watching ECW in a week or so. I've been posting about wrestling online since 2007 when I lived in Michigan and WrestleMania came back to town. Everyone always swore by people like Douglas and Raven and Tazz and RVD and that the WWE just wasted them. Maybe wasting RVD is a stretch but he seemed to get over in spite of how he was booked. I remember in the Invasion he always got the loudest pops. He certainly did better than Raven in WWF. Anyway, I was told how Austin stole his gimmick from Sandman and Undertaker stole crucifying people from Raven.

Apparently a lot of innovation took place in that bingo hall.

And yet I don't think there's an ECW nostalgia thread like this is the WCW nostalgia thread.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Feb 20, 2020

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Tato posted:

Shane Douglas was really, really broken down by the time he got to WCW. poo poo, he was pretty toasted in ECW from all the accumulated injuries and then the weird deal with his sinuses exploding all the time. Then he made the mistake of "walking out" on WCW along with The Radicalz even though there was no way he could follow through with it, ECW and WWF didn't want him. He never was a political genius.

He thought he had solidarity with the Radicalz and they negotiated with WWF behind his back. I think he didn't know until he found out Dean Malenko was spotted at a hotel in Stamford and called the room or something. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

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