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These combined with the final trailer that slopped out a few days ago pretty much confirms that there’s no hope for this. Just seven bad movies in a row, no big deal. That Digimon Renaissance is right around the corner.
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Feb 18, 2020 16:17
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I never thought I’d say this, but I’ll take two new Omnimon variants over these guys.
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Feb 18, 2020 20:08
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TheHan posted:These combined with the final trailer that slopped out a few days ago pretty much confirms that there’s no hope for this. Just seven bad movies in a row, no big deal. That Digimon Renaissance is right around the corner. The reboot one was kinda ok. At least it hit the emotional notes. The problem was that the next movie backpedaled it super fast, which was a general problem the tri movies had, they'd introduce a cool idea, start developing it oh poo poo look at the time we only have 2 more OVAs and 5 new lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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Feb 18, 2020 20:18
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If the spoilers are to be believed; these two new evolutions don't even get names.
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Feb 18, 2020 20:59
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Burkion posted:God I didn't even realize Greyman had a tiny noodle tail Scratchman Apoo posted:If the spoilers are to be believed; these two new evolutions don't even get names.
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Feb 18, 2020 21:01
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Geostomp posted:I never thought I’d say this, but I’ll take two new Omnimon varients over these guys. Same, honestly. I wouldn't be jumping for joy at a new Omegamon, but Omegamon at least has a functional, durable design that looks pretty good. Yes, it's Digimon's Charizard but that doesn't detract from its design. lezard_valeth posted:The reboot one was kinda ok. At least it hit the emotional notes. The problem was that the next movie backpedaled it super fast, which was a general problem the tri movies had, they'd introduce a cool idea, start developing it oh poo poo look at the time we only have 2 more OVAs and 5 new Tri is let down by its backhalf more than its front half. Tri's front half were actually pretty good movies, but they were also built as tacit promises towards the future and under the glare of hindsight... Well... If you go back to Tri 1 you'll see it was a movie very much interested in laying the foundation for a bigger story and that it's clearly building up to something. Consider all the side scenes establishing that the 02 kids are missing or all the times Hackmon popped up in the background and the pitch of some mystery threat on the horizon between the virus, the opening narration, and whatever is up with Alphamon and Maicoomon, and moreover the film gives the vague sense that SOMETHING happened between 02 and now to maybe explain some of the stranger character choices. Then Tri 2 is almost all character building leading into Tri 3 which ends in a BIG DEAL change that's all set to kick off the back half of the series by possibly reversing major character dynamics and doing something interesting and new and creating a sort of inverted model of nostalgia which might be metatextual, but no Tri 4 just 90 minutes of dumping on Sora while they abandon most of the plot to try something lamer. Would Tri be better if it had stuck with its initial plotline? I don't know, but like, maybe they should have tried? Like in general?
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Feb 18, 2020 21:11
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I don’t think Omegamon says his name in OWG, unless I’m misremembering, so I wouldn’t take that to literally mean those two are nameless.
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Feb 18, 2020 23:53
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Nodosaur posted:I don’t think Omegamon says his name in OWG, unless I’m misremembering, so I wouldn’t take that to literally mean those two are nameless. don't know about the JP version but the Dub has him say his name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPR7S-qo8Ag&t=112s
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Feb 19, 2020 00:11
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Yeah but that’s the dub. I’ll check the movie later
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Feb 19, 2020 00:19
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Omegamon is completely mute in the original. This is common in the movies, where attacks and such usually aren't called in the big moments of each movie. Imperialdramon PM is also silent, for example.
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Feb 19, 2020 00:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QlWbnSp2wE To share the scene The difference between the two moments is pretty stark but I don't think one is WORSE than the other. The Dub tries to play it up as this awesome, epic moment, with the Digimon proudly announcing who they are and only calling out their attacks which are pretty bitching attack names The Japanese version is completely about how divine and perfect he is, with a very different feel.
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Feb 19, 2020 01:00
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Is Omegamon named in the credits in the Japanese version? Same might happen to Greyman and Garuruman.
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Feb 19, 2020 02:40
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The thing with Japanese media is that usually they'll name these new movie characters in supplementary material that's released with the movie or something to that effect. Diaboromon never used his name in the Japanese version, and I think you'd only know what his name was if you read the pamphlet that was given out or read some issue of whatever magazine they used to promote the movie. But these two are just nameless cool new dudes! Just wait for their release in an S.H. Figuarts two-pack for the low low price of 300 dollars!
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Feb 19, 2020 03:02
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The screeners last month didn’t even have finished animation. I’m pretty sure they’re not a precedent for what they’ll be releasing alongside the movie.
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Feb 19, 2020 03:07
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Nodosaur posted:The screeners last month didn’t even have finished animation. I’m pretty sure they’re not a precedent for what they’ll be releasing alongside the movie. Finishing a poo poo doesn't stop it from being a poo poo man We're looking at poo
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Feb 19, 2020 03:08
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No amount of great animation is going to save the plot of this thing
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Feb 19, 2020 03:15
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While I really wish they’d do something new with this franchise one day (or at least, give some love to a series that isn’t Adventure for a change) I’m at least hoping that the Adventure reboot series coming out in a few months turns out to be decent at any rate.
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Feb 19, 2020 03:17
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lezard_valeth posted:The reboot one was kinda ok. At least it hit the emotional notes. The problem was that the next movie backpedaled it super fast, which was a general problem the tri movies had, they'd introduce a cool idea, start developing it oh poo poo look at the time we only have 2 more OVAs and 5 new For me the Tri movies are so much build up to later events that once we got to the big wet fart at the end it kinda retroactively ruined the earlier movies for me. The first one was exciting with all the dominos it set up and just seeing these characters again, but knowing there's no payoff for any of it what's the point?
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Feb 19, 2020 03:25
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TheHan posted:For me the Tri movies are so much build up to later events that once we got to the big wet fart at the end it kinda retroactively ruined the earlier movies for me. The first one was exciting with all the dominos it set up and just seeing these characters again, but knowing there's no payoff for any of it what's the point? Pretty much. I can enjoy the first three movies in a vacuum. I cannot enjoy them in relation to the entire series because it's just a miserable hell circle that ends up with animation and fights...weirdly about on par with the original series. Which is just sad
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Feb 19, 2020 03:30
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Burkion posted:Finishing a poo poo doesn't stop it from being a poo poo man I’m not weighing in on whether they’re good or bad or whether the movie is or isn’t But going like them being unnamed in the movie means they won’t name them elsewhere like the thread was doing feels patently absurd
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Feb 19, 2020 04:11
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No one was saying they'd be literally nameless, they were saying that Bandai doesn't seem to be releasing the names any time soon, so people will just be using joke nicknames for at least a month or so.
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Feb 19, 2020 05:29
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Re: Our War Game: I'm pretty sure they don't actually name Diablomon's line in the movie either. I recall the earliest summary of it just referred to "The enemy digimon". I could be flat wrong, but there you go. Similarly it took until after Tri 5 to get Ordinemon's name, and it took until after Tri 6 to get Omegamon MM's attack name.
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Feb 19, 2020 05:29
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I'm pretty sure the dub only identifies Diaboromon, leaving Keramon and Infermon nameless. I didn't know that Chrysalimon existed until I played Cyber Sleuth.
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Feb 19, 2020 06:09
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TheHan posted:For me the Tri movies are so much build up to later events that once we got to the big wet fart at the end it kinda retroactively ruined the earlier movies for me. The first one was exciting with all the dominos it set up and just seeing these characters again, but knowing there's no payoff for any of it what's the point? Digimon Tri: the Game of Thrones of anime Funky Valentine posted:I'm pretty sure the dub only identifies Diaboromon, leaving Keramon and Infermon nameless. I think the Latin american dub names all the forms save the baby stages. Which reminds me, Our War Games owned from the perspective of a latin american kid. The series latin dub used all the original japanese audios, but for the latin dub of OWG they went with the american audio, so OWG was the first time we got to hear the dub's Digimon theme and that transition worked perfectly. That theme has a lot of hype which worked great for the movie, and I'd imagine some of it would have been lost if you've already heard it for 56 episodes. Thus latin american dub OWG felt like the perfect climax to the series both narratively, aesthetically and musicwise..... and then they tacked the lovely Kokomon movie for the 2nd part, which used a completely different animation style that horribly clashed with the 1st part and the story was nowhere near as hype. I'm seeing a pattern here with the 1st part of Digimon ruling and the 2nd part sucking rear end 
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Feb 19, 2020 06:13
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lezard_valeth posted:
Season 2 joke and we're walking
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Feb 19, 2020 06:30
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Burkion posted:Season 2 joke and we're walking
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Feb 19, 2020 07:15
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So this kind of came up with the Omnimon/Omegamon differences But you know what scene REALLY benefits from the English dub's approach? Piedmon VS Angemon. I'm sure there are other examples too, but Piedmon actually calling out his attacks, and the added reverb for the sound effects, give that whole scene a lot more impact than the Japanese/Spanish version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOB16bUhPc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kChAGmN_Yx8 At least to me, it adds a lot. Mind you, the Japanese version then COMPLETELY wins out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_7a8fOaWow&t=25s with this It's not even close Burkion fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Feb 19, 2020 |
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Feb 19, 2020 07:40
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And today I was reminded that Piedmon's dub voice was an impression of Tim Curry as Pennywise.
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Feb 19, 2020 08:32
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Burkion posted:So this kind of came up with the Omnimon/Omegamon differences Hearing him scream out "TRUMP SWORD" when Angemon is careening through the air is significantly better than the silence in the original version. You're spot on.
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Feb 19, 2020 08:49
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Yeah, okay, the music is great, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOB16bUhPc&t=185s
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Feb 19, 2020 08:53
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His sass in the dub IS pretty loving great, yes
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Feb 19, 2020 09:05
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"Chew on this!" "I'm not hungry."
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Feb 19, 2020 09:30
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like the dub goes a bit too far with talking but man i loving miss digimon calling out attacks in the movies
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Feb 19, 2020 12:25
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Funky Valentine posted:I'm pretty sure the dub only identifies Diaboromon, leaving Keramon and Infermon nameless. Dub has them both say their names almost immediately after digivolving. Chrysalimon wasn't even in the movie, it was a point that he skip Adult and went straight to Perfect
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Feb 19, 2020 13:34
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Huh, would you look at that https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1230386738339680256 They didn't give them names after all. Greyman and Garuruman it is!
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Feb 20, 2020 08:11
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Agumon, warp Digivolve to.....D.Gray-man!
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Feb 20, 2020 08:27
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Unless I'm blind, none of the promotional material has shown Mei. lol @ "sorry we killed your digimon, unfortunately you can't hang out with us anymore bai" also what are the odds the agent lady drowned on the Cameo Ocean never to be mentioned again?
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Feb 20, 2020 08:44
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So, we also get a look at Reboot Tai, Matt and TK on another page. We get a clear look at TK as he's in two pictures, and a blurry look at Matt and Tai (and another TK) Matt's new shirt is hideous but whatever. What's interesting is that they're paired with WarGreymon, Metal Garurumon and Angemon. We guessed the first two, since Omnimon's symbol is in the loving title, but it's interesting that TK has Angemon. Both because you'd think it'd be MagnaAngemon or Seraphimon, as his highest evolution, and because it apparently confirms that they'll all have the same Digivolution lines/partners. Which wasn't much of a question except for TK and Kairi who were missing their Digimon. If I had to guess, the poster fully confirms that they're going to be following the story of Adventure. TK's upset and Patamon is missing because Angemon dies fighting Devimon, and Gatomon is the mystery 8th Digimon so she's not around at first. Does raise the question why Kairi is included at all. Hopefully she gets to join sooner
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Burkion posted:Greyman and Garuruman it is! 
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