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As a middle class, middle aged white man, the police have been unfailingly nice to me every time I’ve had contact with them, including the times I actually did crimes and got caught by them. Apparently this is not a universal experience? :a privileged snipe
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one time there was a cop behind me at a left turn lane and he pulled me over for going through the yellow light right before it turned red even though i was CLEARLY in the intersection in time gently caress cops
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Torquemada posted:As a middle class, middle aged white man, the police have been unfailingly nice to me every time I’ve had contact with them, including the times I actually did crimes and got caught by them. Apparently this is not a universal experience? I guess, but doesn't like, literally everyone in this thread agree there's huge problems with law enforcement as an institution in the US? And the disagreement was more related to scepticism over whether full scale anarchism with no age of consent laws was the obvious solution to this?
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Feb 22, 2020 18:23
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Love that TV episode where a bunch of forum users start arguing about the ethics and morality of police forces in America.
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Crimpolioni posted:I guess, but doesn't like, literally everyone in this thread agree there's huge problems with law enforcement as an institution in the US? And the disagreement was more related to scepticism over whether full scale anarchism with no age of consent laws was the obvious solution to this? As a resident of the UK, I’m here to tell you that irrespective of age, colour or social class, the fact that you can’t be extrajudicially murdered at whim by the vast majority of police persons makes the whole situation a lot less tense. If you get killed by police in the UK, it’s assumed that something went badly wrong somewhere. In the US it’s business as usual.
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Torquemada posted:As a resident of the UK, I’m here to tell you that irrespective of age, colour or social class, the fact that you can’t be extrajudicially murdered at whim by the vast majority of police persons makes the whole situation a lot less tense. If you get killed by police in the UK, it’s assumed that something went badly wrong somewhere. In the US it’s business as usual. That sounds kinda nice and seems like a good alternative to having no laws at all imo.
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Feb 22, 2020 18:42
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Reno 911 was pretty good
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And the first scene of Super Troopers. And the Hong Kong police. Those are the only three good police EDIT: VVVVVV yeah that's why they're good dads_work_files has a new favorite as of 06:12 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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Feb 22, 2020 23:31
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I regret to inform you the Hong Kong police are now an arm of the CCP.
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pentyne posted:Love that TV episode where a bunch of forum users start arguing about the ethics and morality of police forces in America. Isn't that an episode of Mr. Robot?
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Torquemada posted:As a resident of the UK, I’m here to tell you that irrespective of age, colour or social class, the fact that you can’t be extrajudicially murdered at whim by the vast majority of police persons makes the whole situation a lot less tense. If you get killed by police in the UK, it’s assumed that something went badly wrong somewhere. In the US it’s business as usual. As an outsider looking in at the US system, could the problem be the everything, and to fix it you should just... start again? Also, I've been doing a rewatch of Arrested Development for the first time in ages. Just hit season 3. It's... uh... it's aged bad, guys. Like, real bad.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Also, I've been doing a rewatch of Arrested Development for the first time in ages. Just hit season 3. It's... uh... it's aged bad, guys. Like, real bad. They thought the "Shemale" shirt was funny enough to bring back in season 4.
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Olive! posted:They thought the "Shemale" shirt was funny enough to bring back in season 4. Ugh, that joke wasn't funny to begin with.
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pentyne posted:Love that TV episode where a bunch of forum users start arguing about the ethics and morality of police forces in America. Yeah, let's put this topic to rest, please. I think we're all on the same side here, and this thread isn't the place to break that side down further. re: Arrested Development, I was actually just thinking of the Steve Holt/Shemale shirt subplot the other day and ugh  I couldn't believe they thought that deserved a callback.
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Serious discussion of police abolition tends to talk about it in a gradual sense- not just suddenly “there are no laws”, but reducing the number of situations in which armed officers are present. Not using people with guns to enforce traffic stops or turnstile jumping, not having them be the people sent out for wellness checks, etc. There’s a transition involved, the idea being you reduce the power and presence of the entity that the modern police force is.
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beep boop no more please
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IshmaelZarkov posted:As an outsider looking in at the US system, could the problem be the everything, and to fix it you should just... start again? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bobjr posted:It is kind of interesting since most other cop shows tend to have problems be the result of a bad seed only there for an episode rather than a bigger systemic issue. Does Lester ever so something crooked? Aside from sleeping with a witness.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Does Lester ever so something crooked? Illegal wiretap and runs a fake taskforce to misappropriate resources to run a pet project. Also spends half the first season running a small-scale manufacturing operation at his desk instead of doing his job. And, as you say, bangs a vulnerable witness under his protection.
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Just watched Simpsons S1 E10 Homer's night out The gist is that Bart uses a tiny (film) spy camera to clandestinely takes a photo of homer dancing with an exotic dancer. This photo spreads virally through the town and publicly shames homer and Marge's relationship. Homer is told to explain his behaviour to Bart (as Marge deemed it objectifying and a bad role modelling for bart) and after searching several strip clubs to find the stripper. After finding her ,he stumbles through an attempt at introducing Bart to her and eventually gives a speech to the club's audience. Shaming them for enjoying strippers instead of the company of their wives. Firstly, the concept of a tiny film camera is horribly out dated and if an attempt at modernization were made the concept of a spy camera would not be needed in this age of iPads and tech Secondarily, Homer's transgression is that he was dancing with a stripper and the fact he lied about attending the stag party is only given lip service. The issue with his attendance is that a stripper was present and he danced with her. (This may be early nineties code for more transgressive behaviour on Homer's part). It's a very sex negative attitude that comes straight out of the early nineties. "Strippers can't have a positive work experience, it must be shameful by default Thirdly, Homer's speech about enjoying your wife's comfort over that of stripper's reeks of a time where men would routinely lie about visiting strip clubs. Which is a cultural touchstone , that as a person that exists in 2020 in Australia I could just not connect with.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:Also, I've been doing a rewatch of Arrested Development for the first time in ages. Just hit season 3. It's... uh... it's aged bad, guys. Like, real bad. People would always respond "oh, it's not as good as the first two, but it's still good" and nope, they were wrong. It was bad.
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Jestery posted:Just watched Simpsons S1 E10 Homer's night out If I went to a strip club and my wife found out she would be mad that I didn't take her with me.
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Tiggum posted:Season three was always bad. I've been saying ever since I first watched it that the show should have ended with the second season. At least nobody is foolish enough to debate the failure of season 4. Anything from that season that isn't David Cross is terrible. I heard they were making a season 5. I legit don't know if it actually every came out, because I lost all interest in the show. Didn't even watch the chronologically reedited season 4 when it came out.
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rydiafan posted:At least nobody is foolish enough to debate the failure of season 4. Anything from that season that isn't David Cross is terrible. Season 5 came out a couple of years ago. I think I watched two episodes and was bored to tears.
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a fun game to play while watching, really any police themed TV show, is figuring out which 40% of the cast are the ones who beat their wives.
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Jeffrey Tambor got #metoo’ed and Jessica Walter and Maeby called him a piece of poo poo during an interview, so that might be where season 5 went.
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Jestery posted:Just watched Simpsons S1 E10 Homer's night out Belly Dancer sho shows up to the stag party dinner and Burlesque Show at the end, if I remember correctly. So it's even more tame than "went to titty bar" as you could hear about on Married with Children. It is definitely from the era when men didn't talk about going to strip clubs with their wives, and when that was just seen as seedy and gross. There's at least an attempt to make it about treating the dancer as a person and not an object, so that was pretty new.
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Got interesting given the whole thing with the burlesque house later on, which I'm pretty sure was anachronistic even for the time.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Got interesting given the whole thing with the burlesque house later on, which I'm pretty sure was anachronistic even for the time. I'm pretty sure 'burlesque houses' were never a thing, and the writers hodgepodged together a concept that would work for the story they wanted to tell without being too racy, since 'racy' wasn't the point. Burlesque was a thing, but not very big at the time, I think. It's having a resurgence now among the generations that I'm realizing probably grew up with that episode, so... good job seeding that one, The Simpsons?
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if a supercriticality of roller derbyists dwell within the same area, it becomes by default a Burlesque House.
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They do call out the possibility of it being code for something in-episode:
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Quite a contrast to the episode with the old western town which appeared to have been populated in its day primarily by prostitutes.
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Cleretic posted:I'm pretty sure 'burlesque houses' were never a thing, and the writers hodgepodged together a concept that would work for the story they wanted to tell without being too racy, since 'racy' wasn't the point. There’s definitely burlesque houses in NYC right now, and they are absolutely full of pretty much exactly who you would expect. It’s great if you want to go hang out with the most tiresome motherfuckers to walk the earth.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:if you want to go hang out with the most tiresome motherfuckers to walk the earth. Clearly I do, I’m here aren’t I.
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Captain Monkey posted:Clearly I do, I’m here aren’t I. Goons have nothing on Burlesque Enthusiasts, let me tell you. I would chew my own arm off before I go to anyone else’s burlesque show. I would rather go to improv than go to a burlesque show.
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how dare you guys disrespect C O P S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-4mhUg6Jw
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hard counter posted:how dare you guys disrespect C O P S man I used to watch this as a kid, I forgot it existed for a minute there  I have the entirety of Mighty Max sitting on my hard drive and remember it being one of the more clever and Actually Decent of the lovely 90s cartoon glut, I ought to rewatch it and see how it held up.
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TheKennedys posted:man I used to watch this as a kid, I forgot it existed for a minute there There were so many poo poo cartoons in the 90’s. I shudder to think of how badly something like Street Sharks holds up.
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TheKennedys posted:man I used to watch this as a kid, I forgot it existed for a minute there The series finale was...unsatisfying to me. I remember that. I was on the edge of my seat while everyone is getting killed off left and right, and then the big twist at the end kicks in and I'm all "that's it!?"
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Goons have nothing on Burlesque Enthusiasts, let me tell you. I would chew my own arm off before I go to anyone else’s burlesque show. I would rather go to improv than go to a burlesque show. I’ll take your word for it.
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