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The entire ST is a complete mess, not just TROS. They each have some redeeming facets but overall are stunningly bad. They have a layer of superficial modern blockbuster slickness that keeps stupid people entertained (or at least just momentarily distracted which is what big budget movies are now) but they, and not the prequels, deserve the incomprehending derision. Nothing, not jar jar, not yipeee, not nooooo, not any of the insane anti prequel hysteria memes, is as insultingly, nihilistically stupid and bad as the Fortnite transmission, the neoliberal hillarybot centrism of TLJ, the pathetic cantina scene in TFA, etc. If you buy into the idea that the prequels are legendarily, epically bad but that the sequels are good,ok, or even just “normal” bad, you are an idiot. The depiction of Finn is much more racist than anything about Jar Jar. The difference in the reception of the two trilogies is a scathing indictment of nerd culture.
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nemesis_hub posted:They have a layer of superficial modern blockbuster slickness that keeps stupid people entertained (or at least just momentarily distracted which is what big budget movies are now when was this not true
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Feb 22, 2020 13:05
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Cease to Hope posted:when was this not true 
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Feb 22, 2020 15:08
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They have better acting though, which makes them less painful to physically watch. The prequels have all the acting chops of a sixth grade play.
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Feb 22, 2020 15:44
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nemesis_hub posted:The entire ST is a complete mess, not just TROS. They each have some redeeming facets but overall are stunningly bad. They have a layer of superficial modern blockbuster slickness that keeps stupid people entertained (or at least just momentarily distracted which is what big budget movies are now) but they, and not the prequels, deserve the incomprehending derision. TLJ is good actually
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Feb 22, 2020 15:56
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ItBreathes posted:They have better acting though, which makes them less painful to physically watch. The prequels have all the acting chops of a sixth grade play. Yeah the casting is easily the best thing about the sequels. Ridley and Boyega are a lot of fun to watch
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Feb 22, 2020 16:39
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nemesis_hub posted:The entire ST is a complete mess, not just TROS. They each have some redeeming facets but overall are stunningly bad. They have a layer of superficial modern blockbuster slickness that keeps stupid people entertained (or at least just momentarily distracted which is what big budget movies are now) but they, and not the prequels, deserve the incomprehending derision. Source your quotes please.
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Feb 22, 2020 18:35
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CainFortea posted:Source your quotes please. agreed i would also like to know where to find more correct opinions like this
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Feb 22, 2020 19:03
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cuntman.net posted:agreed i would also like to know where to find more correct opinions like this
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Feb 22, 2020 19:56
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Badger of Basra posted:TLJ is good actually TLJ is about 40 minutes of cuts away from being good
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Feb 22, 2020 20:32
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The last Jedi is like watching star wars characters talk about the twitter star wars discourse
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Feb 22, 2020 21:25
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The Last Jedi suffered the problem that a lot of big budget blockbuster sequels had where they are just like one or two script drafts away from being good like it was so close but there were just one or two decisions made in the story that just didn't do what it needed to do.
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Feb 22, 2020 21:49
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I think the prequels are going to be mo;re memorably bad because they are unique, whereas the sequels are bad in the same bland way that Jurassic World and the DC movies and half of Marvel and so many other modern movies are
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Feb 22, 2020 22:08
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The sequel trilogy feels like a fan film but with the budget and resources of the real deal, I can never escape this feeling when watching the trilogy. Also I wanted to poo poo on them for including an extremely normal rear end looking casino in their sci-fi epic, but then I remembered Lucas included an extremely normal rear end looking 50s diner as a plot essential scene in his sci-fi epic.
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Feb 23, 2020 16:35
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The red speeder Anakin steals is a Star Wars version of the car from American Graffiti
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Feb 23, 2020 17:14
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PinheadSlim posted:The sequel trilogy feels like a fan film but with the budget and resources of the real deal, I can never escape this feeling when watching the trilogy. Stilll, the casino set is not terribly well designed or decorated. I felt like there should have been weird alien fine art all over the place, but the walls are all blank. It looks like a casino from star trek
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Feb 23, 2020 23:10
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I went to see ROTS alone the other night and i have other thoughts about the Reylo kiss I didn’t like it one bit, I would like a Ben redemption arc but I wanted it to take longer than like a couple hours. Yeah sure he always hesitated but he still hurt people specially Ray That’s one of the reasons why I don’t agree with the kiss. BUT I do think Ben and Rey share a connection that no one else has with either of them. They can see what the other thinks (i think) they know each other’s weaknesses and having a bond like that with someone it really is intimate No one will understand this kind of Jedi experience like the other. Do I think they share a kinda unique type of connection? Yeap Is that excuse or a valid reason to make Reylo cannon? Nope I’m actually glad he died after the kiss The alternatives in my head were: -They kiss and he dies Or -they don’t kiss and he goes with the Resistance Apart from this dilemma, I think it was a great movie
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a.lo posted:I went to see ROTS alone the other night and i have other thoughts about the Reylo kiss Reylo was just the ending of titanic except in a universe where people can heal each other so it makes even less sense that they couldn't both make it out alive. Edit: Also the loving ST in general had a boner for making major characters die of exhaustion which is super loving boring. Throw a moon at them at least.
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Don Dongington posted:Reylo was just the ending of titanic except in a universe where people can heal each other so it makes even less sense that they couldn't both make it out alive. Edit: Also the loving ST in general had a boner for making major characters die of exhaustion which is super loving boring. Throw a moon at them at least. Reylo was one of the worst and grossest things in the ST and part of what I really liked about TLJ was Rey slowly coming to realize that Kylo Ren was toxic and salvageable as a person and straight up  ing at the end of the movie and never looking back. Shame we never got that final movie in the trilogy, I would have loved watching Kylo Ren's spiral into conflicted madness as he tries to fill the void in his soul with more power and more evil and Rey, Finn, Poe and Rose have to team up to stop him for good because he's just too far gone.Weird how for something marketed as the Sequel Trilogy only got two movies, but whatever. gently caress Star Wars.
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Feb 24, 2020 06:12
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At some point in the sequel trilogy there should have been a "don't kiss your sister" joke.
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Feb 24, 2020 09:46
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PinheadSlim posted:The sequel trilogy feels like a fan film but with the budget and resources of the real deal, I can never escape this feeling when watching the trilogy. That's because that's what they are. They even have Jedi fighting in the woods, a beloved staple of the fan film.
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The Rise of Skywalker: Apparently That "We Demand a TLJ Do-Over!" Fan Petition Worked
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Feb 24, 2020 15:09
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I haven't seen TROS, never will if possible, and still can't really believe they actually made Reylo canon. Somehow worse relationship writing than Lucas himself.
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I didn't see ReyLo coming but the theatre full of college girls I saw it in ate it up so I guess they hit their mark.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:13
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Don Dongington posted:Edit: Also the loving ST in general had a boner for making major characters die of exhaustion which is super loving boring. Throw a moon at them at least. That reminds me of something I noticed too. In the original and prequel trilogies someone is maimed horribly or killed by a lightsaber in every single movie, at least once. The cantina scene, Lukes hand, and Vaders hand in the OT. Maul, Qui Gon, Dooku, Fett, Anakins limbs, in the PT. How many horrible lightsaber wounds and deaths are there in the ST? There's Snoke but I can't really remember any more.
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Feb 24, 2020 17:09
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Don Dongington posted:Edit: Also the loving ST in general had a boner for making major characters die of exhaustion which is super loving boring. Throw a moon at them at least. George Lucas: Padme died because she had a sad. The Fans: That's the stupidest loving death in the history of ever. Sequel Trilogy: Here, hold my beer.
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Feb 24, 2020 18:00
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PinheadSlim posted:How many horrible lightsaber wounds and deaths are there in the ST? There's Snoke but I can't really remember any more.
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W.T. Fits posted:George Lucas: Padme died because she had a sad. Poor Luke, Force Skyped and died. Poor Leia, died of Ligma.
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PinheadSlim posted:That reminds me of something I noticed too. Han gets gutted in TFA and Ren gets gutted in the same way in TROS (he gets better)
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Feb 24, 2020 21:07
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han just fell off a bridge it didnt even really show him get stabbed. spinny bat guy and the royal guards got hosed up though
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Feb 24, 2020 21:58
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cuntman.net posted:han just fell off a bridge it didnt even really show him get stabbed. spinny bat guy and the royal guards got hosed up though He gets impaled, blade sticking out his back and everything.
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Feb 24, 2020 22:01
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cuntman.net posted:han just fell off a bridge it didnt even really show him get stabbed. spinny bat guy and the royal guards got hosed up though  ?
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Feb 24, 2020 22:09
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oh never mind then
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Feb 24, 2020 22:25
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Lmao gently caress me, maybe I should watch them more than once.
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PinheadSlim posted:Lmao gently caress me, maybe I should watch them more than once. Why do you hate yourself?
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Feb 24, 2020 23:45
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PinheadSlim posted:Lmao gently caress me, maybe I should watch them more than once. Nah
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the really criminal thing is that nobody lost a hand. (snoke doesn’t count)
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Zoran posted:the really criminal thing is that nobody lost a hand. (snoke doesn’t count) Phasma did in an alternate take on her fight with Finn in TLJ. That version included more character development for her and a more definitive death scene for her but Rian Johnson changed it because he thought JJ Abrams was going to use her in Ep 9 and well 
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