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Tars Tarkas posted:So the Guns Akimbo director Jason Lei Howden has been using the official twitter account to harass people What’s he referring to?
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A lot of early novels were explicitly written as such, I think there's a bit of misreporting or misrepresentation when it comes to whether people "believed" them.
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Feb 23, 2020 20:38
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Captain Nemo really existed and you can't convince me otherwise.
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Feb 23, 2020 20:50
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The Clowner posted:Conversely I bet at least a few people alive before modern science existed quietly thought religion was horseshit Xenophanes posted:The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
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Feb 23, 2020 20:53
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There were a number of Greek philosophers who thought that the gods were just exaggerated memories of actual kings who had lived in the past. Which the early Christians then used to justify that Greek religion was false and their religion was indeed the true religion. Edit: Adrienne Mayor's "The First Fossil Hunters" is a good book on how classic peoples dealt with ideas like fossils, extinction, and evolution before the advent of modern science.
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Feb 23, 2020 20:56
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:I think future people would probably still understand the concept of fiction tbh Future people are just the aliens from Galaxy Quest, this thread is hacks.
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Feb 23, 2020 21:16
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I genuinely do find Galaxy Quest interesting because it raises the question "How would you describe fiction to a people that don't even understand falsehoods in general" though. It's a fun thought experiment.
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Feb 23, 2020 22:23
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Chairman Capone posted:There were a number of Greek philosophers who thought that the gods were just exaggerated memories of actual kings who had lived in the past. The Icelandic scholar and chieftain Snorri Sturluson (1179 – 1241) is responsible for most of our written sources about Norse mythology despite being a Christian himself (and being born nearly two centuries after Iceland converted). He also wrote Yngling's Saga where he theorized that Odin was a king from from Asia who was driven away from his homelands after a war with the Eastern Roman Empire and ended up in Scandinavia where he and his sons founded the dynasties of the kings of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and were only seen as god because of ancestor worship. Note that even in this secularized version Odin is a sorcerer. This was handy in that it allowed kings claim descent from the gods with all the prestige that comes with that while still being good Christians because they weren't actually literally gods.
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Feb 23, 2020 22:49
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Alhazred posted:Atlantis and king Arthur was written as fiction and today some people believe they are historical facts. Atlantis is especially funny because the original story was basically just a thought experiment by Plato about what the ideal society would be like and it culminates in them getting dunked on by Super Athens.
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Feb 23, 2020 23:16
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Chairman Capone posted:There were a number of Greek philosophers who thought that the gods were just exaggerated memories of actual kings who had lived in the past. There are people now who think that Socrates denied the divinity of Greek gods because he was a messenger for the Abrahamic God like Jesus and Muhammad.
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Feb 24, 2020 00:46
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:I think future people would probably still understand the concept of fiction tbh Yeah but that doesn't mean certain things won't eventually take on religious importance. You can find a lot of people that take stuff invented for The Divine Comedy or Paradise Lost as actual dogma.
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Feb 24, 2020 02:06
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Or just how people in general imagine angels to look. Future cult carves crude drawings of winged creatures onto walls in the hopes of summoning the Brucavanya, a beast that punishes those who harm children.
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Feb 24, 2020 03:32
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Yeah but that doesn't mean certain things won't eventually take on religious importance. You can find a lot of people that take stuff invented for The Divine Comedy or Paradise Lost as actual dogma. I think we can thank Se7en fir that one.
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Feb 24, 2020 07:03
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bows1 posted:What’s he referring to? There was some film twitter drama where two black ladies were blamed for bullying someone else to attempt suicide but it wasn't true and then that director blundered in and started posting on the official movie account attacking them. Usually film twitter drama is embarrassingly dumb but this time the professionals arrived to make it even dumber Tars Tarkas fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Feb 24, 2020 |
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Feb 24, 2020 10:14
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Do akimbo tweets double your word count
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BioEnchanted posted:I genuinely do find Galaxy Quest interesting because it raises the question "How would you describe fiction to a people that don't even understand falsehoods in general" though. It's a fun thought experiment. Like being wrong/mistaken, but on purpose.
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Feb 24, 2020 12:33
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Barudak posted:Or just how people in general imagine angels to look. angels look like 6000 foot tall fire squids, this is cannon. I was gonna moan how we should adopt the best and most uplifting fiction for religion but then I remembered Jesus and Buddha's stories and we still are a incredibly lovely species so, I dunno, maybe in the far future people will worship rust covered wrecks as their gods the autobots and be better people.
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Feb 24, 2020 12:56
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BioEnchanted posted:I genuinely do find Galaxy Quest interesting because it raises the question "How would you describe fiction to a people that don't even understand falsehoods in general" though. It's a fun thought experiment. I'd show them Galaxy Quest. 
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Feb 24, 2020 14:05
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You're all forgetting that classic Rocky Gervais atheist parable The Invention of Lying.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:23
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Chairman Capone posted:You're all forgetting that classic Rocky Gervais atheist parable The Invention of Lying. never watched it does it end with him going to hollywood the new capital of lying
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Feb 24, 2020 14:32
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If I remember correctly it goes for complete honesty as a lack of impulse control rather than Galaxy Quest's honesty as mental retardation.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:56
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From what I remember, it pretty much does. I think he becomes super wealthy from inventing the blockbuster movie.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:56
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That movie had a good premise squandered by being a Ricky Gervais romcom.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:07
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If any pop culture depiction of angels thrives after the apocalypse it'll probably be Castiel getting Eiffel towered by the Winchesters behind a Denny's considering how insane that fandom is already.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:18
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idk, i feel that'll all be boomer poo poo references to Gen Zero once the bombs drop and the C virus kicks in I mean don't get me wrong whoever their real world equivalent of Mad Max/Fist of the North is will have murals painted of them being lovingly pounded in the butt but it's like how Elvis sightings dropped off considerably once Directioners and Beliebers and BTS stans became a thing
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Feb 24, 2020 15:24
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Alan Smithee posted:idk, i feel that'll all be boomer poo poo references to Gen Zero once the bombs drop and the C virus kicks in Bazinga travelers, come warm yourself by our fire as the village elders recount the time Saint Tingle was pounded in the butt by his own butt.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:32
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Alan Smithee posted:but it's like how Elvis sightings dropped off considerably once Directioners and Beliebers and BTS stans became a thing I have it on good authority that after the bombs drop a very powerful gang will model themselves after the King.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:41
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A more interesting idea for comic books post apocalypse is a schism forming between which "Superman #1" is the first one, the actual original having been destroyed long ago. The right answer is the one with holographic foil
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Feb 24, 2020 15:51
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Here is a wild thought, the hypothetical post-apoc humanity will completely disregard pop culture poo poo from the aughts and 10' because they have more important things to do and also haven't lost the ability to create new poo poo. They will have their very own CapMjöllnir moment, sorry Kevin.
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Alan Smithee posted:but it's like how Elvis sightings dropped off considerably once Directioners and Beliebers and BTS stans became a thing In Pop-Culture Apocalypsescape there'll be roaming hordes of BTS stans: weak individually, but they have numbers and cultish devotion.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:50
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I just got around to watching The Raven, the John Cusack Edgar Allen Poe movie and it's kind of interesting. It's a fun character, Poe has enough humanity that his aggressive mannerisms aren't all he has, like he's relatively nice to a newish amateur poet who shares her work with him, and the poem's a bit crap but he genuinely enjoys it on it's own terms and helps her feel better about herself, so it's obvious he's only an rear end to people who already hate him. Also it has a neat idea, where Edgar Allen Poe was found dying delirious on a park bench and no one knows how he died or what happened, and this movie is purporting to answer that question. It's just a movie that seemed to have been completely forgotten.
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Groovelord Neato posted:I have it on good authority that after the bombs drop a very powerful gang will model themselves after the King. I hear he still reigns in Lost Vegas.
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I like that no one has considered that almost everyone has a portable media device that is EMP-tolerant; can be powered by almost anything, from a looted solar panel, to a guzzoline-powered car, or a flywheel generator maintained by a human slave; it's basic operation and maintenance are simple enough to be taught to new users and conditioned in existing userbase to the point of ritual; more of them have been made in the last ten years than there are human beings at their peak, plus spares to fix them and accessories to service and protect them; and each successive generation, they become more durable and longer-lasting, at least battery-wise. What I'm saying is that it's probably a given that smartphones will have this mythical status as a potential "container of the soul", especially among those from the Before Times, with post-apocalypse denizens fighting for each others' screen-cracked "black mirrors" since they contain the literal record of someone's life or images and moving pictures from the Before Times, or the parts to give to the Apple cult priests to cannibalize for another's phone.
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Feb 24, 2020 18:46
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Actually we'll be using our smartphones to summon demons and then we have to choose between Law, Chaos or Neutrality.
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Feb 24, 2020 18:51
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if by demons you mean porn yeah
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Feb 24, 2020 19:06
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Alan Smithee posted:if by demons you mean porn yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3UBu7IaqqU
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BioEnchanted posted:I genuinely do find Galaxy Quest interesting because it raises the question "How would you describe fiction to a people that don't even understand falsehoods in general" though. It's a fun thought experiment. I think you could get the general gist across by explaining works of fiction as fiction as hypothetical scenarios: Casablanca is 'What if an ex-gunrunner who fled France in advance of the Nazis came across his ex, who's dating a resistance leader?', etc.
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Feb 24, 2020 20:16
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Y'all are forgetting that The Big Lebowski has already been turned into a religion and there's tens of thousands of practicing Dudeists all over the world alreadypospysyl posted:People thought Robinson Crusoe was a true story when it first came out, but they didn't base a whole religion around it. No need, the book is already all about Christianity and man's relation to God
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Feb 24, 2020 21:09
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Young Freud posted:What I'm saying is that it's probably a given that smartphones will have this mythical status as a potential "container of the soul", especially among those from the Before Times, with post-apocalypse denizens fighting for each others' screen-cracked "black mirrors" since they contain the literal record of someone's life or images and moving pictures from the Before Times, or the parts to give to the Apple cult priests to cannibalize for another's phone. There is an old sci-fi novel by Philip Jose Farmer that takes place 15 billion years in the future where a primitive tribe of humans have a special tree that has egg shaped crystals growing on it. The people end up believing the crystals contain souls but later the main character learns that the crystals were just a previous civilization's version of mood rings.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Actually we'll be using our smartphones to summon demons and then we have to choose between Law, Chaos or Neutrality. Maybe there can be an app to summon an anime demon waifu
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