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This is not the conversation I thought I would kick off with my video about anime preservation, but I'm glad it happened anyway. e: What a terrible page snipe! JordanKai fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Hel posted:IIRC they burned a lot of their goodwill when they started a subsidiary that went back to a capitalist structure, can't remember their reasoning though. IIRC this was one of their business guys spinning off out of self-interest and they burned bridges with him but I could be misremembering dealing with people who can't or won't operate in cooperatives isn't always easy but under capitalism and its warped incentive systems it's a growing pain they'll almost always go through. Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Bakeneko posted:Accepting that something is here to stay is not the same thing as defending it. I could also state that everyone alive is going to die sometime, but that doesn't mean I think death is a good thing; just that it's a fact of life we have to put up with. A shift towards socialism is still a shift away from capitalism too, though. Like I can't say I'm fully on board with GAY SPACE ANARCHO-SYNDICALIST SPACE COMMUNES NOW! But going "better things aren't possible" like some people seem to be leaning towards here just sounds like resigning to the rapid extinction of our species and most other extant life on Earth at this point, considering how the capitalist world powers have been managing stuff. And heck, I can't say we don't deserve it, but should we really be dragging dogs down with us?
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rats are good and smart and will survive, and really, that's all that matters.
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 13:47 |
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^They even watch over infirm rats and divide food, in some observed cases. Yeah, this is SomethingAwful, not the Senate. We're just bullshitting about theory a bit to kill time and do a joke derail that's vaguely related to a link. Pointing out that better things aren't possible isn't acknowledging the grim reality of death in your example, it's saying that we'll never truly cure the flu so we should give up on vaccines. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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To with Mother's Basement: I stopped reading the comic when they left Not Antarctica with the Dragon Kid. How much chapters I have to read until I get back up to speed.
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Kunster posted:To with Mother's Basement: I stopped reading the comic when they left Not Antarctica with the Dragon Kid. How much chapters I have to read until I get back up to speed. Just under 300
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Kunster posted:To with Mother's Basement: I stopped reading the comic when they left Not Antarctica with the Dragon Kid. How much chapters I have to read until I get back up to speed. I suddenly feel my mortality looking back at me. There's at least two major arcs between then and now, with a bunch of stuff between them to fill the time.
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Nuebot posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLx9WKf5mhs
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 14:41 |
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I experienced JoJo once by going non-stop from Phantom to like a few chapters in JojoLion. This seems manageable.
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the video's most likely specifically about jojo and one piece arc names, yes the man who has a wall literally covered in one piece posters knows how ridiculous the one piece arc names are Long Ring Long Land Whisky Peak Thriller Bark Little Garden Punk Hazard Whole Cake Island Impel Down Water Seven and many, many more! well, those are island names, rather than arc names, but that's where those arcs take place anyways, so Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Captain Invictus posted:the man who has a wall literally covered in one piece posters knows how ridiculous the one piece arc names are does literally anyone call the arc that
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Andrast posted:does literally anyone call the arc that
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JordanKai posted:This is not the conversation I thought I would kick off with my video about anime preservation, but I'm glad it happened anyway. Truly, Vash the Stampede has made comrades of us all.
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Green mustache man is a real rear end in a top hat.
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Schwarzwald posted:Truly, Vash the Stampede has made comrades of us all. Love and peace.
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Look I loved Trigun but I still don't understand what makes them a double-dollar.
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It has two ‘$’s instead of one
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Tesseraction posted:Look I loved Trigun but I still don't understand what makes them a double-dollar. Would you prefer Woolongs? EDIT: I got a video in my recommended tab. I'm not posting the video because gently caress those guys, but wow, Mauler, Arch Warhammer and Sargon of Akkad sat around and complained about the Paul Verhoeven Starship Troopers movie for five loving hours. It's a trifecta of shitheads misunderstanding a satirical film for hours on end. That's got to be a horrific feedback loop. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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That's the thing that always confused me about Carl of Swindon, he's such an incurious dullard he refuses to watch more than five minute summaries and yet his streams last for anything from 3 to 8 hours, which he uploads in their entirety to YouTube. Who the gently caress would watch back 8 hours of his stupid trite dipshittery?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Cavemen were communists who had more free time than you do now. Paleontological evidence suggests the murder rate was many orders of magnitude higher than current rates, to the extent that for some regions it may have been the leading cause of death. I wouldn't hold them up as an example of whatever economic system you're projecting onto them promoting harmony. Also they didn't have video games or animé, so what's the point of having that much free time? I dunno, maybe go hard in on socialism and work from there. Once progressive taxation has wiped out billionaires we can try some more speculative solutions. Let Portland or somewhere similarly expendable try out full anarchism and if it works out we can try rolling it out further. Bug Squash fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Tesseraction posted:That's the thing that always confused me about Carl of Swindon, he's such an incurious dullard he refuses to watch more than five minute summaries and yet his streams last for anything from 3 to 8 hours, which he uploads in their entirety to YouTube. Who the gently caress would watch back 8 hours of his stupid trite dipshittery? I used to put his stuff on in the background while I was doing dishes cause dude's thoughts are just a stream of unintentional comedy. "No you see people thought the Starship Troopers novel was fascist because it was written with such conviction! His critics confused that for fascism!". Like how does anything think this makes any kind of sense?
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I had an account that replied to his videos with the same "sum it up in 5 minutes" replies he posted, but he always deleted those comments.
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Bakeneko posted:Did you only read that one sentence you quoted? I thought it was clear enough. Legitimately look into doujin culture and stuff if you wanna talk about art that exists outside capitalism.
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Bug Squash posted:Paleontological evidence suggests the murder rate was many orders of magnitude higher than current rates, to the extent that for some regions it may have been the leading cause of death. I wouldn't hold them up as an example of whatever economic system you're projecting onto them promoting harmony. Maybe if cavemen had invented video games they would have had a healthier outlet for their murderous impulses?
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Archer666 posted:I used to put his stuff on in the background while I was doing dishes cause dude's thoughts are just a stream of unintentional comedy. "No you see people thought the Starship Troopers novel was fascist because it was written with such conviction! His critics confused that for fascism!". Like how does anything think this makes any kind of sense? Should have done some time stamping so we can make a greatest hits compilation of all the dumb stuff you can only find by suffering through the mundane bits. Senerio posted:I had an account that replied to his videos with the same "sum it up in 5 minutes" replies he posted, but he always deleted those comments. Strange, given he's such a warrior for free speech. Must be some kind of bug in YouTube's code.
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Tesseraction posted:That's the thing that always confused me about Carl of Swindon, he's such an incurious dullard he refuses to watch more than five minute summaries and yet his streams last for anything from 3 to 8 hours, which he uploads in their entirety to YouTube. Who the gently caress would watch back 8 hours of his stupid trite dipshittery? It’s the British accent. It casts a glamour on Americans, and I have a theory it also works on British people. Since that’s what they hear all the time it completely fries their brains.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Would you prefer Woolongs? They're assholes who don't want to know more.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Would you prefer Woolongs? Sounds like they understood is pretty well because they are literal fascists, the original book was also fascist and the movie shits on the book and fascists.
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Endorph posted:im late on this but its literally the opposite of what happened. gundam was created to sell toys of course but it failed at that. the people who kept watching it, kept spreading word of mouth, and kept demanding a reairing or sequel, were women selling fanworks and doujins for either free or so cheap that they'd only cover the costs of printing said fan material. aka literally the opposite of capitalism, an enterprise that exists solely to create art for art's sake without any profit based motive, and that technically goes against the legal copyright holder's wishes. I don't think anyone was even talking about Gundam at that point in the discussion. I know I wasn't.
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Dr Christmas posted:It’s the British accent. It casts a glamour on Americans, and I have a theory it also works on British people. Since that’s what they hear all the time it completely fries their brains. "And why should the people listen to you?" "Because... unlike some other Robin Hoods, I can speak with an English accent." *Crowd gasps*
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Lindsay is back for a new season of It's Lit on a new channel (Storied, which is run by PBS) and with a new co-host (Princess Weekes, who writes for The Mary Sue): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDIMOehLm8 And Doug DeMuro has a new non-car review, this time of a hotel room only for the guillotine-worthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwK8olyI0zc
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So while I would have concerns whether the organizational or resources would exist in a post-capitalist society to produce the sort of block busters or pop culture sensations we love and enjoy; an argument could be made that you'd have a lot of people freed up to work on passion projects and work collaboratively on such projects. If all your needs are met and if telecommunications are advanced to allow for working from home, it should be possible for big organizations to perhaps still exist, except on a far more informal and volunteer and voluntary basis than before. I can easily imagine anime studios still existing on a communal coop like basis where as long as their basic needs were met many animators and designers and producers would still get together because for many of them it was their passion for the medium that got them into things. If shows like Shirobako are even remotely accurate, then it should be fairly trivial. Not having to worry about corporate execs and stakeholders demanding compromises for funding just makes many of the final produced works to be more free from those constraints. And since you don't need to worry about your basic needs, if the work place conditions ever got intolerable or toxic you can leave. We'd probably still have a vastly reduced output of AAA games and box office blockbusters though because the sort of motivation and large organizations and top down structures would be a lot harder to pull off without the sort of leverage capitalism provides but I am thinking it wouldn't be categorically impossible. You'd have wider, more decentralized studios probably; and the kind of stuff they would work on would probably require a lot of democratic consensus making to function on a high level.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I can easily imagine anime studios still existing on a communal coop Gulag.
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Mr.Radar posted:new co-host (Princess Weekes, who writes for The Mary Sue):
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Endorph posted:That's unfortunate. Why? I haven't heard of her before and The Mary Sue, while I don't read it often, seems fine.
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Dr Christmas posted:It’s the British accent. It casts a glamour on Americans, and I have a theory it also works on British people. Since that’s what they hear all the time it completely fries their brains. Eh, he was so unpopular that the British chuds couldn't even get him into the European Parliament. Dude has some Brits following him but honestly his main audience does seem to be the rest of the Anglosphere who hear his not-even-RP accent and assume he's smarter than he is I guess.
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If the UK electoral system had worked like many other European countries (total votes split by number of slots for people in Parliament for the nation as a whole) Dankula, Sargon and Farage would absolutely all be MPs by now and probably for life if they wanted.
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They'd also have no power because a majority of people voted for the other people.
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I would not underestimate the power of right wing populism in tyool 2020.
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