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Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

We have to do the thing where the right (but unknown?) number of people have to die before Jesus can come back and do the rapture and take all of the correct people go to heaven, this is just part of getting to that right number and that's why Mike Pence is in charge.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
This is all part of an elaborate plan to shorten the queues for the next iphone release.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys
Reading about american healthcare on these forums is just wild. Just incredible. They charge mothers a fee to hold their newborn babies. It's just bizarrely, hideously, cartoonishly evil.
I am not sure how such a system will handle corona. Probably by punching toddlers in the face or something, I don't know.

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

If people go broke from getting sick, no problem. If number go down, then problem.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Tree Bucket posted:

Reading about american healthcare on these forums is just wild. Just incredible. They charge mothers a fee to hold their newborn babies. It's just bizarrely, hideously, cartoonishly evil.
I am not sure how such a system will handle corona. Probably by punching toddlers in the face or something, I don't know.


Friend, there are americans who call ubers instead of ambulances when they need emergency medical attention.

font color sea
Jan 23, 2017

Expelliarmus!

DancingShade posted:

This is all part of an elaborate plan to shorten the queues for the next iphone release.

There will be no iphones left after the plague is done with China

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

font color sea posted:

There will be no iphones left after the plague is done with China

Broken & dead iphones (with cracked screens of course) will be the hundred dollar notes in the fallout bottlecap-based economy in our new world built by survivors.

The only communications that will still function well into the apocalyse will be ancient nokia brick dumbphones. The few working examples that survive the coming decades will be cherished by future generations as quasi-magical devices considered sacred by the whole tribe, dormant until woken by one of the rare holy fonts of "leck-tris-ity".

It is tradition for the tribal elder to shine the light from a functional "nook-aya" on every new born member of the tribe to bless the rare occasion one carries to terms in the plague lands that extend in all directions far as anyone can remember.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

font color sea posted:

There will be no iphones left after the plague is done with China

it's genetically engineered to only cull China's political dissidents, which everyone else in the world happens to be

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

If getting medical treatment depends on not getting arbitrarily fired or if you have to pay 1000$ for anything, you do not have health insurance and live in a cartoonishly evil system and should do a revolution imo

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit
I hope this doesn't break the politics rule but I do wonder if this is going to have an effect on Super Tuesday voter turnout

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



If Americans wanted better healthcare they'd work harder and make more money to pay for it! The system works!

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Tree Bucket posted:

Reading about american healthcare on these forums is just wild. Just incredible. They charge mothers a fee to hold their newborn babies.
lmao what

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Hadlock posted:

My copay for getting six stitches in my hand in the ER was $1000, total bill to the insurance company was north of $17,000 which they probably negotiated down to $8,000 or so

I can't imagine actually getting sick. I'd probably rather die than pay that bill.
There is no "negotiation". Health insurers have contracts with health providers that stipulate they only have to pay x% of the label price for any given procedure.

And this is intentional, because people being on the hook for 10x the real costs of any given procedures blackmails them into:

- paying health insurance
- becoming a slave due to their debt

It's roughly the same thing as mafia protection rackets.




The sickest thing to me is that americans live both under such cruelty, and also have a certain demographic demand the right to possess guns to defend themselves against oppression, yet those same gun holders never actually defend their fellow citizens against oppression.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
I'm looking forward to having an excuse to avoid people, and leaving the house, even more than I do at the moment

also rip, in advance (ripia) to those who will die

ozza
Oct 23, 2008

Another Aussie checking in to say I had the test this week for the dreaded coronaflu (I'd come back from Japan with the sniffles), and at no point was money mentioned at all. Literally zero mention.

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Quality of (essential) health care should have nothing to do with income. There is no way to morally justify this. It's simply just wrong, anywhere it happens.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Haramstufe Rot posted:

Quality of (essential) health care should have nothing to do with income. There is no way to morally justify this. It's simply just wrong, anywhere it happens.

Regardless of that, infectious disease control is the one area that everyone, no matter how rich, should be 100% in favour of socialising in their own best interests.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Holy poo poo- This article might literally be about my Mom- she arrived at Tenerife a week ago with a group of friends and we haven't talked since.

https://grapevine.is/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-strikes-seven-icelanders-quarantined-in-tenerife/

quote:

The coronavirus has been detected in Tenerife, and seven Icelanders have been quarantined at the H10 Costa Adeje Palace hotel there. This occurred after an Italian doctor who was staying at the hotel tested positive for the virus.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Haramstufe Rot posted:

Quality of (essential) health care should have nothing to do with income. There is no way to morally justify this. It's simply just wrong, anywhere it happens.

Haven't you heard, health care is a right? :10bux::doit:

Any story about the american health care system would be too ridiculous for fiction. Like, tone it down a notch and make it believable.
It's completely surreal.

I'm starting to doubt the US even exists at all, surely y'all are making it up?

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Good morning! 800 new cases reported in SK on Saturday.

quote:

South Korea has reported more than 800 new coronavirus cases, bringing the country’s total infections to 3,150, the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) said on Saturday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/coronavirus-south-korea-cases-surge-as-australia-bans-iran-arrivals

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

Going to PAX today. Goodbye everyone. Tell my video games I did it for them.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

UnknownTarget posted:

Going to PAX today. Goodbye everyone. Tell my video games I did it for them.

Lol. That's real dumb. Especially considering all the developers pulled out.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Thundercracker posted:

Lol. That's real dumb. Especially considering all the developers pulled out.

GDC was the one that they pulled out. Pax is mostly unchanged.

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

Yea only Sony pulled out of PAX. Besides, pretty much everyone I know is going, so if I don't get it from there I'll get it from secondary transmission.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

UnknownTarget posted:

Yea only Sony pulled out of PAX. Besides, pretty much everyone I know is going, so if I don't get it from there I'll get it from secondary transmission.

And Sony didn’t pull out because of pax, Sony just did a blanket ban on business travel. Like it’s not like they looked at pax specifically and said “no way”. They just stopped travel in general for now including shows.

Justin Credible
Aug 27, 2003

happy cat


Barudak posted:

Friend, there are americans who call ubers instead of ambulances when they need emergency medical attention.

I broke the gently caress out of my wrist last summer wiping on my bicycle, and (since I knew I have good insurance), called an ambulance. The guys that showed up literally offered to call me an uber instead of take the ride. I said gently caress it, I know I'm hitting my max out of pocket, let's go.

Surgery a week later, pins and a plate deal. Out of work for 3 months. Covered by FMLA so they didn't gently caress with my job at all, my work offers maybe 1/3rd disability pay of what you'd make. Max out of pocket for all this poo poo for me is $2k.

If the people running my place of employment weren't power tripping assholes who put the screws to people for no reason my job would be SUPER GOOD. I know I'm lucky, most people don't have anywhere approaching that insurance, especially for 100/month. Nothing wild for work, I just drive forklifts in giant -20f freezers and load trucks and stuff. (This is why you need a Union at your workplace.)

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




What was the 2k for? They charge you for the pins?

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
I broke my wrist slipping on ice like a fuckwit a few years ago, and I was out the bus fare for a few trips to and from the hospital

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
The American system of healthcare sounds like the punchline to a joke nobody intended to tell

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
$2k is just what the insurance billed him, the percentage they call co-pay.

So loving glad I have the VA even if they're widely considered garbage. I think the biggest bill I've ever gotten from then was when I was on medication for poo poo not linked to my disability. It was $8. Then I got my head examined, the VA declared I have screws just rattling loose around up there, so they upped my disability and I never get a bill now.

Just be dumb and join the military and you too could take advantage of a socialized health care system. My brother (the type 2 one) uses them too, enlisted but never deployed, still uses the poo poo out of the VA because even the little bills they send him are tiny compared to paying for health insurance, let alone a co-pay.

A few years ago they hosed with the eligibility requirements for using the VA, but even with that, if you served, they're never going to turn you away. You might get a bill, but it's never going to be a huge scary number like you see in those "hospital bills of the week" poo poo. Oh sure, they're still going to try to accidentally kill you (dead vets don't need benefits, after all), but you won't have a monster rear end bill to juggle the rest of your life.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
is an apoloypitic disease epidemic all that bad for humanity though :thunk:

SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011

Barudak posted:

Friend, there are americans who call ubers instead of ambulances when they need emergency medical attention.

I live literally 3 miles from a hospital. I had to take my daughter to hospital via ambulance a few years ago. The ambulance was at our house within 2 minutes of calling 911, so I knew they were no more than 2 miles away. My daughter received no supportive care in the ambulance. The charge was 300 dollars for less than 10 minutes of driving covering a total of 5 miles.

That was with insurance.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
Seriousposting for a moment, I am actually worried about this. I'm worried about my brother (who works in a hospital and is on medicine to suppress his immune system), my grandmother (who lives in a home and is frail) and my 7-month-old niece. I don't think I'm likely to get it because I can work from home and can pretty much turn myself into a recluse if needed, but I am still worried for people I care about

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009

Dick Bastardly posted:

is an apoloypitic disease epidemic all that bad for humanity though :thunk:

Yes because it makes the markets nervous.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Dick Bastardly posted:

is an apoloypitic disease epidemic all that bad for humanity though :thunk:

Unironically no (as long as me and nobody I like dies ofc)

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



At this point coronavirus is like a cat 5 hurricane a week out. It's almost guaranteed to fall short of the worst case scenario, but it takes a special kind of idiot to defiantly refuse to plan and prepare for the worst & these people will be the first to die in a real disaster

mrfart
May 26, 2004

Dear diary, today I
became a captain.

Hammerite posted:

Seriousposting for a moment, I am actually worried about this. I'm worried about my brother (who works in a hospital and is on medicine to suppress his immune system), my grandmother (who lives in a home and is frail) and my 7-month-old niece. I don't think I'm likely to get it because I can work from home and can pretty much turn myself into a recluse if needed, but I am still worried for people I care about

Yeah I'm also mostly afraid for my parents and my little nieces/nephews. These kids are disease factories.

The scariest thing in this thread is the american health system, though.
It will never not shock me.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
not one person has died under 10. only a few of those under 10 have even needed oxygen or ventilators. its your parents only you need to worry about, your nieces and nephews or whatever will outlive you as usual

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Hammerite posted:

Seriousposting for a moment, I am actually worried about this. I'm worried about my brother (who works in a hospital and is on medicine to suppress his immune system), my grandmother (who lives in a home and is frail) and my 7-month-old niece. I don't think I'm likely to get it because I can work from home and can pretty much turn myself into a recluse if needed, but I am still worried for people I care about

The good news is that children seem to be mostly unaffected by it. Your niece should be totally fine.

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Snail Information
May 29, 2010

Snailmancy

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Holy poo poo- This article might literally be about my Mom- she arrived at Tenerife a week ago with a group of friends and we haven't talked since.

https://grapevine.is/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-strikes-seven-icelanders-quarantined-in-tenerife/

call your mom

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