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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Except people aren't??? Idk why you guys are so upset that people see things differently than you :/ because repeatedly saying things like this about even shows that are incredibly explicit basically serves to undermine queer romance in media
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Except people aren't??? Idk why you guys are so upset that people see things differently than you :/ because ive had to navigate this kind of pedantry for literally every gay romance anime ever made
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:it's not exactly controversial that there are people (beyond me) who see a superficially ambiguous presentation. these people are complete idiots at best and wilfully dense homophobes usually, it doesn't matter what they think
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Tyler the Creator made two whole albums about being in love with a man and there are still folks out there claiming he's just "playing a character" and that he's not really gay For cishet people, there will always be an amount of denial because these queer narratives are just so alien to them
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everythingWasBees posted:it's incredibly unrepresentative of the show lol I dunno, the skating is definitely the bit we see most, but that doesn't mean everything else is unimportant, because the show deliberately conceals or de-emphasises a lot of the emotional context of the skating in a way that tells you 'there is something important here, but you won't see all of it'. It definitely feels like it's the bit we spend most time with because it's the most public part of their lives.
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Endorph posted:you may reply that other gay people also think its ambiguous, but gay people are notoriously bad at understanding media, due to the shackles forced on them by the hets, who are even worse at it. only by accepting that kannazuki no miko is a good anime can we be free. god bless the usa. i take issue with this btw because historically gay people got really good at reading media because they needed to be to find stories for them oftentimes like, i get saying that if you are looking at like mostly younger people on twitter or tumblr who are growing up in a different environment from us where being gay is "accepted" by the mainstream as long as its toothless and kinda corporate feeling, and their viewpoints often clash with older perspectives on this
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On the one hand corporations deliberately coding in enough cues to get The Gays interested but not so many that the straights catch it is hosed up & exploitative on a metatextual level, but on the other, folks being negative to other folks for taking something or another out of said products is not cool and also about 75% of Tumblr "discourse".
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i have been enjoying 'can't defy the lonely girl' a lot lately lot of good yuri to read... strange voices next door... run away with me girl... still sick... your true color seems like it has good potential...
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Syenite posted:On the one hand corporations deliberately coding in enough cues to get The Gays interested but not so many that the straights catch it is hosed up & exploitative on a metatextual level, but on the other, folks being negative to other folks for taking something or another out of said products is not cool and also about 75% of Tumblr "discourse".
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Snooze Cruise posted:strange voices next door I'm convinced this one is the author's self-insert wish fulfillment fantasy and I'm 100% on board with it. Hungry fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 29, 2020 |
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Endorph posted:And also people really love accusing things that are blatant of being 'coding.' That's a thornier issue, as you can't really generalize perception like that. What comes across as obvious to one doesn't to another.
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Hungry posted:I'm convinced this one is the author's self-insert wish fulfillment fantasy and I'm 100% on board with it. my favorite genre of yuri manga is "want this to happen to me, me personally, snooze cruise"
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Endorph posted:And also people really love accusing things that are blatant of being 'coding.' what does coding mean the best i could figure out from seeing people talk about it is that it's about characters looking/acting in some way stereotypically associated with lgbt people? RottenK fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Feb 29, 2020 |
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Snooze Cruise posted:my favorite genre of yuri manga is "want this to happen to me, me personally, snooze cruise" 
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i am glad you are supporting my dreams 
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RottenK posted:what does coding mean ofc as time's gone on its lost basically all meaning
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I'd platonically date Scar
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Mr Wint and Mr Kidd
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Snooze Cruise posted:i have been enjoying 'can't defy the lonely girl' a lot lately wheenever i can read yuri again im gonna have the bagngnersst backlog
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DisDisDis posted:wheenever i can read yuri again im gonna have the bagngnersst backlog you'd really like run away with me girl, I think
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it is probably the most painful manga I've read in a while though, especially the current arc thankfully the scanlation group recognizes this and are doing their best to get it out as quickly as possible so as not to prolong our suffering ty SAD
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SAD... more like stupid assholes dummies!1
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Snooze Cruise posted:SAD... more like stupid assholes dummies!1 wtf
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Syenite posted:On the one hand corporations deliberately coding in enough cues to get The Gays interested but not so many that the straights catch it is hosed up & exploitative on a metatextual level, but on the other, folks being negative to other folks for taking something or another out of said products is not cool and also about 75% of Tumblr "discourse". I think it depends on what you mean by being negative, or how you go about it. Like, giving someone grief over getting something positive out of something is pretty lovely, but I don't think it's wrong to talk about why you don't think something is exploitative or why you don't like it or whatever. everythingWasBees posted:it is probably the most painful manga I've read in a while though, especially the current arc What's SAD in this context? Hungry posted:I'm convinced this one is the author's self-insert wish fulfillment fantasy and I'm 100% on board with it. I read yuri manga to fill the empty void of cute girls that I am in a relationship with. 
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lmfao, good work everyone
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hachi machi that means 8 machi
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Cuntellectual posted:What's SAD in this context? scan group, Sexy Akiba Detectives
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my dream anime, what if yuri on ice- but w/ actual yuriEndorph posted:implying lgbt without actualyl saying it. sometimes its what you said sometimes it's more behavior based. a good example would be a lot of 90s disney villains, like scar. lots of tossing his hair around, kind of fabulous voice, treated as a contrast to the hypermasculine mufasa who's married with a kid, big showtune, eloquent, that kinda thing. that's a character who obviously isn't explicitly gay but has those elements for one reason or another. also for some reason 90% of the time the queer coded character has to be the villain and has to die, that's not specifically a part of coding but thanks disney. Stalin-Chan fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Stalin-Chan posted:my dream anime, what if yuri on ice- but w/ actual yuri my general memory of seeing lgbt people in media when i was a kid is that more often than not they were treated badly, either as a villain or a joke or both, and even sympathetic characters would often suffer pointlessly or have a tragic end just for drama
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