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you can present the material but you can't make me care
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gopher should have been enough for anybody
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:curl should have been enough for anybody
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Feb 28, 2020 22:49
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eschaton posted:why is anyone trying to do high performance 3D graphics with JavaScript in web pages anyway wabassembly says hi
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Feb 28, 2020 23:50
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eschaton posted:why is anyone trying to do high performance 3D graphics with JavaScript in web pages anyway
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:gopher should have been enough for anybody this but unironically
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Feb 29, 2020 05:03
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josh04 posted:wabassembly says hi like anything uses webassembly except Bitcoin miners
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Feb 29, 2020 05:50
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eschaton posted:like anything uses webassembly except Bitcoin miners blazor maybe someday
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Feb 29, 2020 05:55
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I used some blazor this week (server side) and it was very good. I didn't have to write any javascript at all.
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Feb 29, 2020 06:06
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Xik posted:this but unironically consider who you were quoting it was always unironic just now you have committed the crime of agreeing with the notorious b.s.d how does it feel 
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Feb 29, 2020 06:52
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:how does it feel slightly gassy
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Xik posted:slightly gassy on-brand
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javascript is punishment for our sins. networked hypercard is the web we didn't deserve.
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shaggar and eschaton were both right and at the same time the apocalypse is upon us
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Zlodo posted:shaggar and eschaton were both right and at the same time gently caress, they actually immanentized the eschaton
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Feb 29, 2020 18:58
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Soricidus posted:gently caress, they actually immanentized the eschaton
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Soricidus posted:gently caress, they actually immanentized the eschaton lol
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Feb 29, 2020 19:34
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Antigravitas posted:Every time I have to compile qtwebkit, I cry. why? genuine question, I have no idea.
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qtwebkit takes a very long time to compile. 15 minutes on an 8 core Ryzen on a ramdisk. qtwebengine uses BOTH make (qt) and ninja (chromium). The project is so large that the insane C header crap makes it unbelievably slow. They added the "jumbo build" option that concatenates all the headers, but each build thread then takes >2GB of private memory. So with 16 threads you need at least 32GB RAM because ninja defaults to using all threads and ignores makeopts. At least an hour of compile time. And it keeps. growing. Building chromium is just insane, utterly insane, in every way. The only thing that's more insane to compile is freetype with harfbuzz support, where you have to compile freetype without harfbuzz support, then harfbuzz, then recompile freetype with harfbuzz support, because freetype is a build dependency of harfbuzz. 
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Feb 29, 2020 21:42
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Antigravitas posted:The only thing that's more insane to compile is freetype with harfbuzz support, where you have to compile freetype without harfbuzz support, then harfbuzz, then recompile freetype with harfbuzz support, because freetype is a build dependency of harfbuzz. lmao
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What I'm trying to say is, all C++ programmers should be sectioned. Also, hug your distro maintainers. They need one.
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Feb 29, 2020 21:45
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Antigravitas posted:They added the "jumbo build" option that concatenates all the headers, but each build thread then takes >2GB of private memory. *scribbles furiously in notebook entitled "How To Compile Your Mom"*
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Feb 29, 2020 23:55
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Antigravitas posted:qtwebkit takes a very long time to compile. 15 minutes on an 8 core Ryzen on a ramdisk. While that sucks, ninja doesn't ignore makeopts? You can run ninja -j# just fine? 
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Ninja is being called by qtwebengine's qmake. I never really looked much deeper into the makefile because that way lies madness and I am not strong enough to do that right now. I just want a qtwebengine… 
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Antigravitas posted:
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It's Free Real Estate
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Soricidus posted:gently caress, they actually immanentized the eschaton lol
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Soricidus posted:gently caress, they actually immanentized the eschaton
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Tankakern posted:kernel 5.5 out today too. to be honest, the 5.4 series was kinda poo poo because of this: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/issues/673. put shortly, good luck in getting your laptop with an intel gpu, skylake or newer, working without freezing or locking up at least once a day on a 5.4 series kernel. they did a bunch of refactoring with the i915 codebase with the 5.5 release because of security issues, thus making a backport of the fix ... impossible? they haven't managed it yet as far as i know. it turns out it wasn't before 5.5.7 (just released) that i915 got all patches needed for not freezing or locking up your dell xps' gpu daily. the latest kernel releases for i915 has been a clown show for laptop havers, way too much refactoring and missing backports Tankakern fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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you know, if drivers were out of tree and could rely on stable binary kernel interfaces, only kernel bugs affecting binary driver compatibility would cause problems like that and the drivers themselves could be written to support a broad range of kernel versions it’s almost as though insisting everything be in tree and avoiding stable binary interfaces for political reasons is actually harmful to users
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Open source has always been about politics over users. 2020 will be the year when users users finally realize that ethics in operating systems is more important than some peasant notion of “working,” and we’ll see a significant uptake in Linux on the desktop.
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eschaton posted:you know, if drivers were out of tree and could rely on stable binary kernel interfaces, only kernel bugs affecting binary driver compatibility would cause problems like that idk, Apple's policy of forbidding third-party drivers entirely seems like a better idea
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you can't trust those fuckers not to crash the kernel with their buggy poo poo
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Tankakern posted:it turns out it wasn't before 5.5.7 (just released) that i915 got all patches needed for not freezing or locking up your dell xps' gpu daily. the latest kernel releases for i915 has been a clown show for laptop havers, way too much refactoring and missing backports goddamn this thing was a pos. ive been running some 4.x LTS kernel for months. now if only they could fix the bug that causes one of my laptop's wifi chips to randomly deauth for like a minute
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eschaton posted:you know, if drivers were out of tree and could rely on stable binary kernel interfaces, only kernel bugs affecting binary driver compatibility would cause problems like that Let me know when any modern OS has a stable kernel ABI.
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ratbert90 posted:Let me know when any modern OS has a stable kernel ABI. Apple has deprecated their kernel API. Deprecation is a form of stability.
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pseudorandom name posted:Apple has deprecated their kernel API. Deprecation is a form of stability. Fun fact: The Linux Kernel also (barring any extreme circumstances) has a huge notification period for ABI changes and depreciations. It seems like Nvidia and VMware are the only two major players that outright ignore 6months to a years worth of notices. edit: Also they have LTS kernels for actual rock solid ABIs.
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Lol at the notion of a six month deprecation notice period being "huge".
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catched this from reddit Linux/Wayland HW video acceleration lands in Nightly! videoaccel in wayland with firefox, who'd have thought it would see the light of day this year already
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