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Hunters is like if Captain America was even more cartoony and stupid but then some executive decided that they had to turn it into a serious movie by adding lots of holocaust torture porn on top of that.
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I'm only one episode deep into Hunters and didn't like the first 20 minutes or so because the tone was all over the place and my brain couldn't process if it was a hosed up dark comedy, a misfired drama, or something else entirely. After that, some parts are excellent, some are baffling, and some are cringy. The Kids are Alright portrayed the 70's more realistically, but everyone wants to watch another episode.
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Feb 24, 2020 06:13
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I've been binging Gotham lately, having finally decided to give Batman Minus Batman a go. So far, I'm enjoying it a LOT more than I thought I would - I'm most of the way through Season 3, and I really, really like how they handled (Heavy spoilers for Season 3) Oswald's feelings for Nygma, and how everyone reacted to it. Based on every other show like this one that I've seen, I'd have expected the reaction to be "Oh my God, Oswald! How dare you be attracted to a MAN!" Instead, as per Oswald's arc, it goes horribly wrong, but not once is the upset over the fact of his attraction to Nygma, but instead over the horrible poo poo he's done because of it. It's also nice that his attraction isn't his entire character arc - up until he admits it, there wasn't really a "Ooo, Pengy is so gay!" arc - hell, they could have replaced Nygma's role in things with Fish Mooney and it would have basically played out the same way - and his homosexual attraction to Nygma is treated as basically completely normal, insofar as anyone in that show is normal. It just feels like a really refreshing angle on the whole thing, compared to basically every other show I've seen like it. I do think they could stop hammering on the whole "JIM GORDON IS REALLY A BAD MAN" pedal, though. We get it, he's got a dark side, like literally everyone else who will ever end up in Batman's orbit. Overall, pretty solid so far, and am looking forwards to seeing the next few seasons. Kind of hoping for an actual Batman live-action series using the sensibilities and timeline of Gotham in the future.
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Feb 24, 2020 07:41
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Hunters got turned off when the secret german guy with the swastika tattoo starting telling a black woman about separating colors from whites in the laundromat yes this is a real scene
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Feb 24, 2020 13:07
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anatomi posted:I want to like the Hunters. I really do. But it misses its Tarantino-esque mark 90% of the time. From your description, it sounds like it's really nailing that Tarantino-esque mark!
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Feb 24, 2020 16:05
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It's very Scrubs at times, but JD-esque weird mental asides are a lot more tonally disruptive when the show is about the goddamned Holocaust.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:20
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I also just started watching Watchmen and it's really bizarre how Hunters manages to simultaneously seem less realistic, less topical in terms of racial issues, and way more gratuitously violent than Watchmen, a show about fantasy KKK people, cops in masks, superheroes, and a silly evil guy casually murdering his clone slaves for no reason. Also, the inconsistent tone of Hunters really resembles something like Suicide Squad that was edited at the last minute to completely change it at the last minute, although I doubt that was actually the case here. mystes fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 24, 2020 |
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Feb 24, 2020 17:06
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magiccarpet posted:Hunters got turned off when the secret german guy with the swastika tattoo starting telling a black woman about separating colors from whites in the laundromat yes this is a real scene All the Nazis are cartoonishly evil, it's the worst part of the show. The next scene is him meeting the Nazi evil overlord and heil hitler-ing each other over and over.
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Feb 24, 2020 17:37
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I haven’t watch yet, but it sounds pulpy as hell (which I normally love).
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Feb 24, 2020 17:40
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nate fisher posted:I haven’t watch yet, but it sounds pulpy as hell (which I normally love). mystes fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Feb 24, 2020 |
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Feb 24, 2020 18:14
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Yeah the series starts with kids leaving a theater discussing whether Darth Vader is the hero in his own story because he was conditioned to believe he is saving the universe from terrorists, which the audience knows isn't true, but they wouldn't have known in the 70s, which sets a tone that is contradicted throughout episode one. Then we get cartoonishly evil Nazi, deadly serious Jews, cartoonishly evil Nazis, etc. Further the quality of writing and directing shifts depending on who's onscreen. It's just weird.
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Feb 24, 2020 18:37
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I watched all 10 episodes of the hunters and I agree it was all over the place and had weird whiplash constantly. Like outside of the Nazi poo poo, you have the B-Movie Actor Hunter at one point at a veterans support group using a movie he was in about a napalm strike to try to win them over and its kind of played for laughs. Then another Vietnam Vet Hunter talks about being in a Napalm strike and how a girl had her skin melted off begging him to kill her. Just like complete tonal whiplash in a minute.
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Feb 24, 2020 19:16
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anatomi posted:I want to like the Hunters. I really do. But it misses its Tarantino-esque mark 90% of the time. "Like a gaggle of teenage boys wrote it" is extremely Tarantino-esque though He's a great director but his dialogue is always a combination of saying something thinking its much smarter than it really is, and a ton of cursing just for the sake of cursing to appear more "street"
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Feb 24, 2020 21:05
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You can tell the writers are hacks just from the chess allegories alone but other than that the attempts at adding any authentic jewishness to the dialogue leads to characters saying stuff like "I gefilte-d her fish" This whole thing reminds me of that movie The Hebrew Hammer but with film school attempts at pathos.
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Feb 24, 2020 22:02
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Sourdough Sam posted:You can tell the writers are hacks just from the chess allegories alone but other than that the attempts at adding any authentic jewishness to the dialogue leads to characters saying stuff like "I gefilte-d her fish" This whole thing reminds me of that movie The Hebrew Hammer but with film school attempts at pathos. Oh wow, there's a name I forgot Was that purely a comedy central made for tv movie or what
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Feb 24, 2020 22:24
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Finished Beforeigners and if you’re looking for a moderately novel time travel show that doesn’t get bogged down in attempts to Explain How Time Travel Works you should check it out. It’s nicely shot, the production design is great, and it has the best use of male nudity I’ve ever seen on a television show. Appreciate the Occupied rec - am moving on to Dark for now even though what I really want is for Fringe to go up on Hulu/Prime/whatever… Am I the only one who misses that show? I was hoping Evil would fill that monster of the week shaped hole in my heart but I found it kind of dull (watched the first 2 eps).
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Feb 25, 2020 03:13
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Fringe talk reminds me that for that Starzplay is currently 99p for 3 months in the UK and has all the Fringe. It's an add-on channel for Prime Video so I assume you need that as well. I signed up and cancelled and figure I can binge Fringe and Party Down in that time and I'll be good. Probably a few other things worth watching on there. e: Binge Fringe lol
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Feb 25, 2020 16:09
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I watched the first season of The Comeback. I hadn't heard of it before but saw a post about it that intrigued me. It's Lisa kudrow in a fake documentary as an actress that has been cast on a comedy but she has to do a reality show about that as well. The part that interested me is that they did 1 season in 2005, then 9 years later there is a second season. It's not great, but not terrible. I've never really watched much of kudrow but I think she does a pretty good job of playing this self-delusional but wholesome actress who had 1 hit and wants the attention again. Curious to see what the second delayed season is like.
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Feb 27, 2020 18:47
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Ru Paul Drag Race I've never seen it before and now im binging the series on Hulu. Goddamn do I love this.
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Feb 29, 2020 04:58
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ru Paul Drag Race yeah it got me like ~3 years ago but only recently did I uncover the "lost" season 1 and hoooo boy they bury that for a reason, the production quality SKYROCKETED in season 2
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Feb 29, 2020 17:22
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Hunters - Awful. Wildly inconsistent. None of its elements mesh. And it draaags They should've gone full pulp with a fast-moving narrative. No one's done a Spartacus-style 'Nazi Killing' show yet. Also, the S2 hook's absolutely hilarious. If the narrative moved quicker, they could've fit S1/S2 into one season. If they had, this would be a popular show.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:42
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Watched I am not okay with this, another graphic novel finding its way unto the screen about an awkward teen girl who discovers she has superpowers. The comparison to Impulse is obvious, but it does its own thing well enough. It's got a solid cast, good acting, good direction and a pretty straight forward story. The only thing is, it's a really short season of really short episodes. They almost feel like the synopsis of what the actual episode would have been like. This is not necessarily a bad thing, the storytelling works well with the brevity, but after the whole season all I am left with is the feeling that I've seen the setup to something. Also watched the final half season of Bojack and the last season of The Good Place a while back. Both had a decent ending for the good shows that they were, though I do feel that Bojack's finale was a missed opportunity, and that The Good Place had run out of actual material a while back.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:59
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Meatgrinder posted:though I do feel that Bojack's finale was a missed opportunity In what way? I don't think this is how they originally wanted the show to end, but as the show evolved, and the world changed fairly drastically since 2014, this was more or less the only way they could end it.
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Feb 29, 2020 19:27
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Accretionist posted:Hunters - Awful. Wildly inconsistent. None of its elements mesh. And it draaags I gave up after ep2. The first ep was weird but intriguing, second was boring and felt like the product of inexperienced showrunners being pushed and pulled in different directions trying to appease everyone but the audience.
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Feb 29, 2020 19:45
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Four episodes of S2 of Altered Carbon and I’m done because it’s boring beyond my capacity to endure. Anthony Mackie is not in the least dangerous or threatening, every single line is delivered as if it’s meaningful or weighty, but is in fact hollow and ponderous, and no one has any charisma whatsoever. Utterly dreary. e: that it doesn’t even have its own thread speaks volumes
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Feb 29, 2020 22:33
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Meatgrinder posted:Also watched the final half season of Bojack and the last season of The Good Place a while back. Both had a decent ending for the good shows that they were, though I do feel that Bojack's finale was a missed opportunity, and that The Good Place had run out of actual material a while back. I'm on season 3 of the good place and I definitely feel like it's getting a little stretched for ideas. the first two seasons were wonderful but it doesn't have the same amount of cleverness in this season, especially in the dialogue. I'll watch it to the end because I like the characters and actors but I'm a bit disappointed with how it developed.
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Feb 29, 2020 22:39
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I think the "problem" with the final season of The Good Place is that it kind of comes after the characters have mostly gotten their growth and resolutions and then they're just trying to pass that on to others so if you're not deeply invested in like the philosophy of the show or just saying goodbye to the characters there's not a ton of meat in those final episodes beyond the jokes. I still thought they were funny and I enjoyed them. But its kind of a slow goodbye by design.
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Feb 29, 2020 23:00
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re: final episode of Bojack I feel the second to last episode worked much better as a finale for Bojack and what happens with him as a person and the last episode is just what happens with the other people and his relationships or lack thereof in the future. That is to say I liked the penultimate episode better.
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Feb 29, 2020 23:14
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Torquemada posted:Four episodes of S2 of Altered Carbon and I’m done because it’s boring beyond my capacity to endure. Anthony Mackie is not in the least dangerous or threatening, every single line is delivered as if it’s meaningful or weighty, but is in fact hollow and ponderous, and no one has any charisma whatsoever. Utterly dreary. Yep I feel the same way, finished recently and he just wasn't the right fit. S1 was so much better (as I remember it at least)
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Feb 29, 2020 23:18
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Torquemada posted:Four episodes of S2 of Altered Carbon and I’m done because it’s boring beyond my capacity to endure. Anthony Mackie is not in the least dangerous or threatening, every single line is delivered as if it’s meaningful or weighty, but is in fact hollow and ponderous, and no one has any charisma whatsoever. Utterly dreary. Post captures how I felt after watching about 20 or so minutes of the first episode, and subsequently bailing on it. Did it get better, before returning to this dreary state? And yeah I know whatshername from neighbours gets naked in it so yes, technically it gets better but you know what I mean.
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Feb 29, 2020 23:34
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Naked Neighbours lady was only naked in S1: she’s not in S2 long enough for any shenanigans. S1 wasn’t great, but it had just enough in it to make me think S2 might be ok. The books, while not great works of art, are entertaining: energetic, violent, and edgy as hell, and filled with ideas (too many, maybe) both good and bad. How the hell the creative team picked only the bad boring bits of three novels and expanded them to include details that are irrelevant about characters and situations we care nothing about, boggles the mind.
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Mar 1, 2020 00:33
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Indian Detective was fun, too bad it was cancelled after 4 episodes.
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Mar 1, 2020 03:32
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I made it through season 2 of Altered Carbon and I actually really enjoyed it. It wasn't the best thing ever, but I thought it was mostly really good, save for a few weaker points. It was definitely a little less tight than the first season, but I understand it diverged much more heavily for the novels than the first season did. Plus I like a story that has a main theme of all rich people, without fail, being literal monsters.
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Mar 1, 2020 18:23
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Living With Yourself, Netflix, is starting off well. Stars Paul Rudd as a guy who went to a clinic that promises to clean your DNA but unbeknownst to the customer they clone you and the original dies, except this time. Also found Meerkat Manor in Prime, watching it again with my kids who are grown now but still get just as excited about it.
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Mar 3, 2020 05:32
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So prime removed Friday Night Lights while I was in the middle of the last season. Stuff got a bit stale but goddammit!
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Mar 3, 2020 06:16
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I just started watching the 1976 BBC miniseries I, Claudius because of this podcast. The first episode takes a while to get going - and I needed a little time to get used to the theatrical acting style and high-school-level production values - but now I'm four episodes in and loving it. It's both very dark and very funny, and the performances are really excellent. Plus, young hot Patrick Stewart. Also parts of it very clearly inspired Game of Thrones, so it's interesting to watch on a meta level.
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Mar 3, 2020 06:34
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showbiz_liz posted:I just started watching the 1976 BBC miniseries I, Claudius because of this podcast. The first episode takes a while to get going - and I needed a little time to get used to the theatrical acting style and high-school-level production values - but now I'm four episodes in and loving it. It's both very dark and very funny, and the performances are really excellent. Plus, young hot Patrick Stewart. Also parts of it very clearly inspired Game of Thrones, so it's interesting to watch on a meta level. I've been meaning to try that one for years, I'll have to check it out finally on your saying its worth it.
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Mar 3, 2020 13:46
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showbiz_liz posted:Also parts of it very clearly inspired Game of Thrones, so it's interesting to watch on a meta level. Livia in The Sopranos was probably inspired by the character of the same name in Clavdivs.
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Mar 3, 2020 13:53
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showbiz_liz posted:I just started watching the 1976 BBC miniseries I, Claudius because of this podcast. The first episode takes a while to get going - and I needed a little time to get used to the theatrical acting style and high-school-level production values - but now I'm four episodes in and loving it. It's both very dark and very funny, and the performances are really excellent. Plus, young hot Patrick Stewart. Also parts of it very clearly inspired Game of Thrones, so it's interesting to watch on a meta level. I, Claudius is my favorite book and I adore the series. The acting is amazing and to this day I still don't know how they so completely believably transformed Derek Jacobi from an adolescent to an old man - I remember being unable to tell which direction the transformation was occurring watching this when I was a kid. Was he an older actor made to look young? Was he younger made to look old? He's plausibly 20 but equally plausibly 60. If you like the series you should check out Suetonius' Lives of the Caesars, which is the source a lot of Robert Graves' narrative (he translated it). It is basically a Kitty Kelly style biography of the first 12 emperors of Rome and it is incredibly fun to read a collection of scandalous gossip written fairly shortly after the events in question (allegedly) took place (~120 AD).
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Klaaz posted:So prime removed Friday Night Lights while I was in the middle of the last season. Stuff got a bit stale but goddammit! I think its still on IMDBTV free. And the NBC app, I think free. And Hulu and Starz not free.
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