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TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Earlier today I heard that there are no black people in Dilbert. It was harder to verify than I expected, all I could find about it was this tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/958372722668482560







Totally normal character who just happens to be an Indian with the one character flaw of being young.

The fact that people called Scott Adams racist for this is the perfect reason to keep using this character for decades and never introduce a black character.

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Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

I don’t have anything insightful to say but Scott Adams is a dipshit.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
scott is a performance artist embodying the idea of the dorky out of touch white guy who works in an office.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I can't believe he doesn't just hypnotize readers isn't thinking he's not racist.

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka
If you want to have a really rockin' Saturday night, spend an hour checking out the comments section on any given Dilbert cartoon at dilbert.com. There's a guy with an Anonymous avatar who spends what is apparently all of his free time arguing with camgirl link bots



One thing they can agree on, at least, is they really hate the Pointy Haired Boss

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Alien Sex Manual posted:

I don’t have anything insightful to say but Scott Adams is a dipshit.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Dilhole

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!
STEM was humanity's biggest mistake.

Hell Yeah
Dec 25, 2012

dilbert is like the simpsons except it started in season 10

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I wish I was a solder slut so I could take a long dirt name. :(

bomb
Nov 3, 2005


Bosses make random decision am I right?

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
I think I found one of the dumbest people on twitter

https://twitter.com/Roar__Bang/status/1233439504356257793

Cirrhosis Johnson
Jan 9, 2014
Someone post the Scott Adams livestream with the girlfriend he bought.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Alien Sex Manual posted:

I don’t have anything insightful to say but Scott Adams is a dipshit.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Is Scott Adams asserting that he's somehow had his creativity castrated by black people because he would be shouted down as a racist if he included a black character with a flaw that made them funny?


edit: I know he's a piece of poo poo, I just want to unpack specifically why this one tweet contributes to that fact.

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
where is the dog dude with the gilberg office guy comics

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Scott Adams is legit mentally ill, but since he got rich in the 90s and has gently caress-you-money, everyone just stands around and says, "Oh, that's Scott. He's a little eccentric, but otherwise... TOTALLY NORMAL!!!" :stonklol:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Scott Adams is a reprehensible dipshit who wasn't even competent enough to effectively sockpuppet for himself.

If memory serves.

Edit: Yeah, memory serves. https://comicsalliance.com/scott-adams-plannedchaos-sockpuppet/

CaptainSarcastic fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 1, 2020

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

They're pretty stupid but why is this one racist?

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Trillbert

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

ChesterJT posted:

They're pretty stupid but why is this one racist?

Indian taxi driver.

e: also I really liked Dilbert as a kid, but even then I could tell Adams had screws loose, from reading his non-fiction.

Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Mar 1, 2020

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
he's probably correct in that if he added a black character he would be labeled as a racist, but only because he would be really racist about it.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Do you mean to imply the Scott Adams, the writer of the nationally syndicated comic "Dilbert", is actually a super gross dude with terrible opinions who can't stop himself from yelling them all over the place, even though he is far richer than he deserves to be and could just shut up and enjoy his wealth quietly like all the other gross rich people without yelling hosed up stuff all the time when nobody wants to hear that?

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

he's probably correct in that if he added a black character he would be labeled as a racist, but only because he would be really racist about it.

I remember once he complained that the colourist for the strip chose a poor time to add some diversity to the cast by making the thieving night watchman black.

CAMP FARTING ROCKS
Jan 14, 2005

ChesterJT posted:

They're pretty stupid but why is this one racist?

As noted above, Indian taxi driver, but I think only really because you have to read into Scott Adams mindset in placing those characters.

For instance, there is no reason Wally is not the person asking that question with, say, Alice answering while smugly sipping her coffee. Or Pointy-Hair-Boss, to give some sort of comment on the gig economy and a lack of empathy from management.


But instead we have Asok, the forever exploited Indian worker at the bottom of the food chain. While the final panel should be read in conjunction with the earlier panels, it is entirely believable knowing Scott Adams that the final panel essentially detaches - reading into it an isolated statement that the only thing that differentiates Asok from an Uber Driver is owning a Prius - and the earlier two panels just bolstering the characteristics Scott Adams projects onto Indian office workers.

It's not the cleanest or easiest accusation of racism, but I think it's pretty arguable that it's justified to include in the overall picture of Scott Adams being racist.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I wish Scott Adams had stuck with harmless white-collar humor and otherwise been a recluse but I guess even in his early work there is an air of "the cartoonist thinks he is smarter than everyone"

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

Fojar38 posted:

I wish Scott Adams had stuck with harmless white-collar humor and otherwise been a recluse but I guess even in his early work there is an air of "the cartoonist thinks he is smarter than everyone"

he also had some kind of proto-The-Secret belief system going on

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
Is Dilbert a virgin? There's a canonical answer to this question if you don't know it.

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Arrhythmia posted:

Is Dilbert a virgin? There's a canonical answer to this question if you don't know it.

I'm going to say he hosed once but his STEM engineer brain was so unimpressed he decided not to ever bother again because of how "above it" he is. Am I close?

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
Adams told his newsletter readers that he’d draw Dilbert with a flat tie if he did the deed. He uncurled the tie after he went on a date, but paired it with ambiguous dialogue.

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747




I wish I had the collection handy so I could quote his put-upon annotation for these. Also, dovetailing nicely, note the flattened tie.

Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

i still can't believe the Dilbert guy went mad with power and never recovered. can't even blame hellworld for that one.

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
It's even more hosed up because a major thesis of his early nonfiction was how modern society is so complicated even the smartest of us spends most of their time being abject dumbasses. But when you have a blog and a captured audience hanging on your every word for twenty years you're bound to go a little insane with power

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

Zippy the Bummer posted:

where is the dog dude with the gilberg office guy comics

yeah wtf

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
According to a Dilbert book I read about 20 years ago, Scott Adams doesn't do the coloring of the Sunday strips and he complained that his editor liked to add diversity at the worst times.

That was his handwritten annotation written under a strip about an office thief who was black

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



je1 healthcare posted:

According to a Dilbert book I read about 20 years ago, Scott Adams doesn't do the coloring of the Sunday strips and he complained that his editor liked to add diversity at the worst times.

That was his handwritten annotation written under a strip about an office thief who was black

Well, he can't blame his misogyny on the color, at least.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Would it be more racist to have 1 black character or have 0 black characters?

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
Yes, people and fans of Dilbert do indeed hate the pointy-haired boss. Despite Scott practically worshipping the real-life incarnation of him unironically.

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Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
been squinting at this one like a riddle

I see the

quote:

""india is so backwards and unscientific" -an indian guy" - a white guy
but, the joke, dear god

stripped down and workshopped, I think it would look something like this:

quote:

asok: did you hear India criminalized being gay?
dilbert: I guess they'll be getting rid of the taj manal then
asok: why's that?
dilbert: have you seen it? that place is totally gay! :imunfunny:
OR

quote:

asok: India criminalized being gay. I'm ashamed of my home country's homophobia
dilbert: with their lack of understanding, I'm worried about their respect for and preservation of historical cultural sites like the taj mahal
asok: the taj manal? hah! gayyyy
it's unclear, because the joke is so poorly told
why are they even talking about nuclear weapons? it just creates this extra leap the audience has to make either that, because india criminalized homosexuality, that means they want to nuke gay people, or that because they're unscientific they would use nuclear weapons to destroy their own landmarks
without that leap, dilbert's remark makes no sense as a reply to what asok was saying, and even so, what he says is the first half of a punchline that he just leaves hanging for asok to finish, which asok would have no way of intuiting. this reads like a story written by a patient suffering from brain damage that's used in a psychology class to demonstrate what it looks like when somebody loses the ability to distinguish other people's understanding from their own
asok understands it because adams understands it, so you end up with this broken statler and waldorf exchange being performed for an audience of nobody, squeezed into the last panel because the first two are taken up by a bizarre racist sockpuppet rant, and crippled by the pointless addition of nukes

it is such a bad joke.

the only way to read this strip for it to make any sense is that adams forgot that he was writing two characters
he got so wrapped up in trying to get digs in at astrologists and addressing india's status as a nuclear power that he lost his theory of mind
he got so distracted by his own STEMlord jerk-off pontification that he forgot how to conceptualize human beings having different thoughts and feelings
(which, in a way, summarizes his entire career)

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