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MonsieurChoc posted:The evil religion in X is very buddhist. It's pulling from both!
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Nah FF9 kind of already did the classic FF games all you could, it's a natural endcap for that style of fantasy in the franchise. They should do something weird and new instead like their do cause it's cool that they make weird and new settings each time. whatever it is I hope I never have to see a boat with 6 or so propellers on the masts ever again in my life
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Mar 1, 2020 08:41
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MonsieurChoc posted:The evil religion in X is very buddhist. That's an interesting take. I won't say I'm some new convert to Buddhism but I've had an interest in it for years and am pursuing it more closely now. A line from FFX that has always stuck out with me is this line from Mika: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTQIED4YNFI&t=174s Mika: Men die. Beasts die. Trees die. Even continents perish. Only the power of death truly commands in Spira. Resisting its power is futile. That line was powerful to a younger me and I see its Buddhist roots now you mention it. As somebody who plays and watches mostly Japanese media, I've observed a similar theme you can find in works as diverse as Evangelion or FFX or Shin Megami Tensei. It's the idea that the villain wants to help alleviate our suffering because life is inherently suffering and the hero has to say no, life might be suffering but we need to walk this path alone and not accept any sort of "easy out" in the form of Instrumentality or false hope or angels and demons. This is a big theme in our dear Xenogears and Xenosaga, too. I'd say they both handle it better than any of the other works I just mentioned.
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Mar 1, 2020 08:46
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MonsieurChoc posted:The evil religion in X is very buddhist. It's very both. Deliberately so. The parts of the religion pulled from Buddhism are the average beliefs of the common folk and especially the summoners, are closer to the natural order of things and are generally good aspects of the religion. Meanwhile the Catholic-based aspects of the Church like the power structure, the worship of a sacrificial messiah, and punishment of sins past are falsehoods and shackles passed down by the elite few in power with knowledge of the truth and the actions of the past that have perverted it, and generally represent the batshit evil parts. FFX is not a very subtle game. Mr. Locke fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Mar 1, 2020 08:53
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Actually I wouldn't be surprised if 16 is the sequel to 14.
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Mar 1, 2020 10:00
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precision posted:Actually I wouldn't be surprised if 16 is the sequel to 14. I would be, if just because XIV is still three years out from completing the plotline planned out for it since A Realm Reborn (as told by the director in past interviews, at least) and I'd be really surprised if we went almost a decade since the formal announcement of Final Fantasy XV without getting a reveal for XVI. Now, Final Fantasy 17 is probably a safe bet.
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Mar 1, 2020 18:56
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Final Fantasy XVI AKA Final Fantasy VIII-2
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Mar 1, 2020 18:59
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morallyobjected posted:Type-0 is a good game. maybe not a great game, but a good game. WaltherFeng posted:Playing Type-0 way back on PSP was really good. You knew they had to cut a lot of corners to even get the game to run on PSP but it was still super impressive  Remake Type 0 in the style of ff15.
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Mar 1, 2020 19:08
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I can't believe there's only one song from XII in that list. I love that soundtrack so much that I've used it in place of the music for other games.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:04
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This is by far the best track in FF12 and is really slept on for some reason... https://youtu.be/QOAD58HCB-c Sounds like a big evolution of the music style of 4 or 5
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Mar 1, 2020 21:48
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Yeah the music in 12 owns hard
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Mar 1, 2020 21:55
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I like Hitoshi Sakimoto's music (despite his style not having changed much over the years - like Fight To the Death is great but also might as well be from Vagrant Story) but it's not really surprising to me when the competition is as tough as that, plus the game itself only got 15th place in the main list. The one that made it was the main theme. I might've expected one or two more from VIII personally, though Eyes on Me, The Man With the Machine Gun, Fisherman's Horizon, The Extreme and Force Your Way is a pretty strong set. The Balamb Garden theme being there wouldn't have surprised me at all.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:04
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Kanfy posted:I like Hitoshi Sakimoto's music (despite his style not having changed much over the years - like Fight To the Death is great but also might as well be from Vagrant Story) but it's not really surprising to me when the competition is as tough as that, plus the game itself only got 15th place in the main list. The one that made it was the main theme. That's a strong choice from XII, admittedly, but I'd also object to the the game being ranked 15th. But what do I know, I'm not Japanese.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:18
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All of the best Final Fantasy music is actually Ogre Battle music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYDI9CSJw0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWkm4aJTkU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOH3kgAEmRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2CeK01NUU
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Mar 1, 2020 22:48
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Big Bizness posted:This is by far the best track in FF12 and is really slept on for some reason... oh hey i didn't turn on my ps4, wait...
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Mar 1, 2020 23:30
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I love Uematsu’s soundtracks, but XII is the best in the series fo sho.
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Mar 2, 2020 01:51
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In the NHK poll, tied for last place: Fat Chocobo (FF3) Barret (FF7) Seven (FF Type-0)
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Mar 2, 2020 03:25
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Fat Chocobo deserves love. Someone asked why fat chocobo was able to fly in FF14 (the model has you holding a fishing rod with a piece of cake in front of it to motivate it to fly) and was expecting some magic/aether response. The official response was that fat chocobo just really, really wants that cake.
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Mar 2, 2020 04:43
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I know that Yiazmat is a notorious boss for its insane HP total and how long it takes to take down, but nobody ever talks about how after you're done with 80% of the fight it turns from a moderate threat into an absolute monster that can party wipe you in two seconds. If you're going to make me suddenly lose because I wasn't doing it right, game, at least have the dignity to do it early in the fight and not make me waste 40 to 50 minutes of my life finding out that I wasn't adequately prepared. Sigh. Well, that's it for my journey through Ivalice, maybe I'll see it again someday.
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Mar 2, 2020 07:02
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NikkolasKing posted:In the NHK poll, tied for last place: I feel like that must be racist somehow. Also I forgot who Seven is, or indeed any of the Type-0 characters.
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Mar 2, 2020 07:16
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Alxprit posted:I know that Yiazmat is a notorious boss for its insane HP total and how long it takes to take down, but nobody ever talks about how after you're done with 80% of the fight it turns from a moderate threat into an absolute monster that can party wipe you in two seconds. If you're going to make me suddenly lose because I wasn't doing it right, game, at least have the dignity to do it early in the fight and not make me waste 40 to 50 minutes of my life finding out that I wasn't adequately prepared. Sigh. Well, that's it for my journey through Ivalice, maybe I'll see it again someday. I mostly agree, but at least you can leave the fight at any point without penalty to save.
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Mar 2, 2020 07:25
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Clarste posted:Also I forgot who Seven is, or indeed any of the Type-0 characters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUdaWZ4FN0
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Mar 2, 2020 07:29
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Seven is the one that looks like Lightning
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Mar 2, 2020 08:03
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lezard_valeth posted:Not surprised at all that V's demographic is mostly male. That was probably the most dudebro FF till XV came around XV has the biggest female demo of any game on that list
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Mar 2, 2020 08:38
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VII demo is out, by the way: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0082-CUSA07237_00-FFVIIREMAKETRIAL
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Mar 2, 2020 09:34
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Aaaaaaaa I've got 3 hours and 40 minutes left of work and travel time and LIFE IS PAIN
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Mar 2, 2020 11:38
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precision posted:I would much rather have them use games like 4 and 6 as the inspiration for 16 I think they're overdue for a sort of "return to roots" game after how absolutely buck wild 13/15 are in terms of gameplay and tone, but I doubt that'll happen bc nostalgia-bux is what the FF7R project is about and that'd be double-dippin'
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Mar 2, 2020 11:42
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I hope that at least 16 is back to low tech or steampunk. We now have had one with Ramen noodles and earth like cars, let's try a big epic with castles and poo poo again
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Mar 2, 2020 11:52
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Motto posted:XV has the biggest female demo of any game on that list I really struggle to understand how people don't get that a team of guys pretty blatantly visually designed as "Pick the one you want to smooch and/or the ones you want to smooch each other", and a highly emotional, character driven story (regardless of how you feel said story was conveyed) was at least partially designed for the 'female gaze'.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:13
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The demo TL;DP: 7R is FF7 modded into FF15's engine with UI tweaks and it's done extremely well, so if you like the combination of both* this'll be your thing. *Combat, magic, movement, camera control, general feel and flow, it's all from FF15 e: oh hi dedicated thread for FF7R is right there. At least I can voice my wish that we'd gotten FF1 or FF3JP remade instead. Bring back the mostly medieval fantasy FF damnit. The ones hiding a strange sci-fi grimdark underbelly. Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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Mar 2, 2020 13:36
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No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:I think they're overdue for a sort of "return to roots" game after how absolutely buck wild 13/15 are in terms of gameplay and tone, but I doubt that'll happen bc nostalgia-bux is what the FF7R project is about and that'd be double-dippin' Isn't that what games like the Bravely series are for nowadays?
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Mar 2, 2020 13:41
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NikkolasKing posted:In the NHK poll, tied for last place: That's not last place, that's #200 out of every single character in the franchise. Considering there were a few thousand characters to chose from that's not too bad.
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Mar 2, 2020 15:58
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Barret definitely isn't very popular as all other FFVII party members were in the top 100 with Cait Sith being the next lowest at #90. Rude was also the only FFVII Turk who didn't make the list, Reno was #32, Reeve #160, Tseng #171, Elena #181. Cissnei was #190, even. Sazh was the least popular FFXIII party member at #139, though not that much below Snow at #119.
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Mar 2, 2020 16:41
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Kanfy posted:Sazh was the least popular FFXIII party member at #139 Truly, the Japanese are fundamentally unknowable.
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Mar 2, 2020 16:51
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I quite enjoyed the demo, I am sad the iconic BONG sound when pressing buttons though wasn't used/remixed. I've been looking for it as a SMS sound for years.
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Mar 2, 2020 17:08
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Luceo posted:Truly, the Japanese are fundamentally unknowable. you mean the ultra stereotypical black guy wasnt well received in Japan?
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Mar 2, 2020 17:23
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So if I snag the Season pass for 15, what will I get for it?
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Mar 2, 2020 17:52
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SeanBeansShako posted:So if I snag the Season pass for 15, what will I get for it? According the the description on PSN quote:Holiday Pack + The Packs and Set are just items, gear, recipes, etc.
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Mar 2, 2020 18:06
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Luceo posted:Truly, the Japanese are fundamentally unknowable. It probably doesn't mean much, but I find the English VA for Sahz a lot better than the JP VA. JP Sahz feels a bit too much like a joke in the comedy bits, but English Sahz has the right mix of being funny but not a complete joke + acts well when he's serious. That's all I got though 
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TommyGun85 posted:you mean the ultra stereotypical black guy wasnt well received in Japan? No I mean the best character in the game wasn't well-received in Japan  ffs he had a chocobo living in his hair, if that's not enough then I guess I'm not woke enough for this world anymore
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