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At this point, I’d be happy with “pretty okay I guess”
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 19:33 |
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PMush Perfect posted:At this point, I’d be happy with “pretty okay I guess” If Adventure 20 is on par with Adventure 02 I'll take it. That is how low my standards are.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:05 |
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Omnicrom posted:If Adventure 20 is on par with Adventure 02 I'll take it. That is how low my standards are.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:23 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Ken was a good character. For all 02 did wrong (and it did a lot wrong) I still think Ken is the most interesting and the best character in all of Adventure and honestly ranks amongst the highest of Digimon in general, and 02 actually used him pretty well ignoring how it wanted you to play a game that never came out of Japan to get his full backstory. No other part of Adventure will get someone as interesting as Ken, considering it'll always be stuck with Hikari, a walking Deus ex Machina (literally!) with no personality to speak of, more a plot device than a character; or Meiko, who had potential to be great but sadly was stuck in Tri which had little interest in anything but forced drama.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:31 |
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I dunno if Ken even needs a backstory. “He thought it was a VR video game and so it didn’t matter if he was an rear end in a top hat” is both a complete villain origin all on its own and also a loving galaxy brain way to give a character a redemption arc.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:37 |
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Adventure 02 had its moments. It just needed to stop after the first round of DNA digivolutions. We get the Emperor, his fall, and redemption facing a real threat. After that, the story lost all direction, villains became jokes, and the characters stagnated. Anyway, this new anime is looking about as good as it could be given that it literally is a rehash of the oldest series.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:38 |
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Jessiemon and Jameson were the best villains on personality alone
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 21:42 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Jessiemon and Jameson were the best villains on personality alone Meowthmon had good moments too and he's very memorable even if his death sucked.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 23:07 |
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BlackWarGreymon couldn't have been more 90s-2000s anime anti-hero ANGST if they loving tried. Getting Steve Blum of all people for him was an A Plus move.
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# ? Mar 6, 2020 23:28 |
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This new adventure show looks fine but after tri maybe they should just make a new digimon anime that is good like tamers and data savers instead of bad like app mon and xros wars 2 and adventure 01.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:08 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:bad like app mon
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:23 |
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I really hope that “ancient battle” thing isn’t the old continuity and this is connected to the old universe. That’d suck all my interest out of this.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:42 |
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Nodosaur posted:I really hope that “ancient battle” thing isn’t the old continuity and this is connected to the old universe. That’d suck all my interest out of this. just let a clean reboot be a goddamn clean reboot
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:46 |
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Nodosaur posted:I really hope that “ancient battle” thing isn’t the old continuity and this is connected to the old universe. That’d suck all my interest out of this. Well it's a coin flip at this point. Assuming the translation is correct, we're looking at one of two things. This is MASSIVELY its own thing, where the Digimon, at least Agumon and Patamon, were important in the past in some unknown event that will (hopefully) be expanded on and we won't have the original plot line at all... Or Surprise, this is a continuation of Adventure 01 after all! Either some bad guy hit the in universe reset button, or all of the kids are trapped in some kind of false reality (again) where they're kids again, or something or other but there are elements of their true history still around Like, Agumon alone is one thing. That's easily conflatable with his fight with Parrotmon and all the nonsense that happened around that. Patamon getting the same kind of shout out is the eyebrow raiser.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:47 |
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The ancient battle was the one from Frontier's backstory, Lucemon's going to take Myotismon and Apocloymon's place.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:59 |
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Sounds like they’re going to make Angemon more important. The Celestial Trio might be a established thing here and Patamon and Gatomon are them after being forcibly reset.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 00:59 |
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"Make Angemon more important" just makes me laugh so hard Fucker was the most important Digimon across Adventure 01, nothing would fit a reboot better than somehow topping that.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:08 |
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Patamon is just Angemon 99% of the time, this includes riding on TK's head.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:09 |
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Blaze Dragon posted:https://twitter.com/Wikimon_news/status/1235755008714518530 Purple Matt with sleeves is hosed up. I don't like it. Izzy somehow acquiring even bigger dork energy with his new outfit is baller though. Trailer looked really good too. It's the same animation style just expanded upon with the innovations gleaned from the last 20 years of industry development. Hopefully the show is actually good.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:15 |
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I'm on chapter 6 of Cyber Sleuth and I was surprised how easily the game was letting me get to ultimate with tons of Digimon, but then I learned about ABI and megas
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:42 |
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I found the Cyber Sleuth Mega grind to be fairly relaxing, just threw on some music and murdered a bunch of Seadramon.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:47 |
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TheHan posted:I'm on chapter 6 of Cyber Sleuth and I was surprised how easily the game was letting me get to ultimate with tons of Digimon, but then I learned about ABI and megas Yeah, that's the game's way of limiting how fast you power up. You can get experience at absurd speed if you barely know what you're doing, but you're going to hit that particular limit sooner or later. That said, devolving is actually a pretty painless thing and your Digimon will be that much stronger once they evolve again, plus again, experience is extremely easy to obtain if you know what you're doing, you don't really need to go out of your way in the main game for it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:51 |
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i double dipped on the switch version of cyber sleuth almost purely because in-game time passes while you have the switch in sleep mode, meaning anything in your farms levels up while you're not playing
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:52 |
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If I had a switch, I'd probably double dip too. I just want more Cyber Slueth games.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:59 |
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blossommirage posted:If I had a switch, I'd probably double dip too. I just want more Cyber Slueth games. Habu has already said that a Story game will follow Survive but it won't be a Cyber Sleuth, Cyber Sleuth's story is over. The next Story will be an all-new setting, which honestly, I'm super pumped for because it'll probably rock, Habu's done wonders for the game side of Digimon to the point that it's the only one that isn't a constant disappointment lately, unlike the anime. ...Which will never stop feeling weird.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 02:43 |
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Blaze Dragon posted:Yeah, that's the game's way of limiting how fast you power up. You can get experience at absurd speed if you barely know what you're doing, but you're going to hit that particular limit sooner or later. That said, devolving is actually a pretty painless thing and your Digimon will be that much stronger once they evolve again, plus again, experience is extremely easy to obtain if you know what you're doing, you don't really need to go out of your way in the main game for it. This is good to know, since I panicked and de-digivolved all my Digimon to rookie to raise their ABI, plus it doesn't seem like I'm as close to the end game as I thought so it'll be nice to play around with champions some more.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 02:45 |
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TheHan posted:This is good to know, since I panicked and de-digivolved all my Digimon to rookie to raise their ABI, plus it doesn't seem like I'm as close to the end game as I thought so it'll be nice to play around with champions some more. A couple of tips on ABI increasing: 1) Digimon created at 200% scan data will have higher base ABI. 2) Only devolve at max level so as to get maximum ABI increases. 3) If you go for a Jogress Mega (Omegamon for example) only do it if the base Digimon already has max ABI. You won't be able to devolve afterwards without having to Jogress again. 3.1) Be careful of any other Jogress as well, if they can keep evolving fine, else see above.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 02:54 |
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Geostomp posted:Adventure 02 had its moments. It just needed to stop after the first round of DNA digivolutions. We get the Emperor, his fall, and redemption facing a real threat. After that, the story lost all direction, villains became jokes, and the characters stagnated. After rewatching Adventure 99 my takeaway is that Adventure has always been a hodge-podge, the difference was that in 99 all the hodge-podgery was pointed in one direction because the series continuously had a major, central villain to hold the focus of the story. 99 is no less full of weird one-off instances of strangeness, bizarre digressions, and unfinished or confused little plotlines, it's just way less noticeable on the whole because the show continuously moves in one direction, that is towards beating whoever the bad guy of the current arc is. Once 02 stops having a singular villain to organize all its storylines the plot goes straight to hell. Everything goes in every direction without rhyme or reason. I think Adventure was always like that to an extent, it just became way worse and way more obvious after Archnemon and Mummymon became jokes. Tri has something similar, every movie has a different antagonist or antagonistic force at the forefront and even ones that that recur are shown from strikingly different perspectives in every single movie. There's no cohesion to the gaggle of plotlines. Adventure has never been solidly "together", but 99 at the very least could get all its ducks in a row.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Habu has already said that a Story game will follow Survive but it won't be a Cyber Sleuth, Cyber Sleuth's story is over. The next Story will be an all-new setting, which honestly, I'm super pumped for because it'll probably rock, Habu's done wonders for the game side of Digimon to the point that it's the only one that isn't a constant disappointment lately, unlike the anime. Oh, then hell yeah, I'm pumped too. I kinda forgot Survive was even a thing. And yeah, it's some serious role reversal from the 90s.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 04:40 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Purple Matt with sleeves is hosed up. I don't like it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 07:08 |
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TheHan posted:This is good to know, since I panicked and de-digivolved all my Digimon to rookie to raise their ABI, plus it doesn't seem like I'm as close to the end game as I thought so it'll be nice to play around with champions some more. Chapter 6 is maybe a quarter of the way thru the game
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 14:35 |
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Blaze Dragon posted:A couple of tips on ABI increasing: Thanks for the tips! Even after finding where the tips are kept there wasn't anything about ABI, would've been disappointing to get to the endgame not knowing why I can't get Gallantmon. mandatory lesbian posted:Chapter 6 is maybe a quarter of the way thru the game Good lord this game is long, Kyoko's dialogue alone could probably fill a World Mythologies textbook
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 17:21 |
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TheHan posted:Good lord this game is long, Kyoko's dialogue alone could probably fill a World Mythologies textbook The fact that almost every scene with Kyoko turns into a stream of consciousness dialogue with her mixing urban legends, mythology, real history, faked history, fake history, science, junk science, debunked science, psuedo-science, and random observations about drat near everything is one of the reasons I love Cyber Sleuth. The game has a style and voice wholly its own and it's one of many reasons I adore it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 19:08 |
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Omnicrom posted:The fact that almost every scene with Kyoko turns into a stream of consciousness dialogue with her mixing urban legends, mythology, real history, faked history, fake history, science, junk science, debunked science, psuedo-science, and random observations about drat near everything is one of the reasons I love Cyber Sleuth. The game has a style and voice wholly its own and it's one of many reasons I adore it.
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# ? Mar 7, 2020 21:01 |
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Hot take: it may have sucked overall but when it was at its best, Tri was better than the majority of 02
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# ? Mar 8, 2020 03:13 |
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I'd call that a decent take. For me, most of 02 was just kind of forgettable. Meanwhile, I still remember the Rosemon & Vikemon scene as one of my favorites in quite a while. The first movie had some growing pains, but the second felt like it could have been the beginning of something really excellent, and I think the third one at least mostly held up that momentum.
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# ? Mar 8, 2020 03:29 |
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I appreciate the second half of 02 for being shameless about ripping off Jessie and James.
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# ? Mar 8, 2020 03:31 |
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Omnicrom posted:The fact that almost every scene with Kyoko turns into a stream of consciousness dialogue with her mixing urban legends, mythology, real history, faked history, fake history, science, junk science, debunked science, psuedo-science, and random observations about drat near everything is one of the reasons I love Cyber Sleuth. The game has a style and voice wholly its own and it's one of many reasons I adore it. Your boss being woman who forsook the tyranny of bras and buttoning shirts who rambles on at every opportunity while still being an effective detective was great. There was literally no subject she couldn’t find some way to turn into an opportunity for more long winded nonsense.
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# ? Mar 8, 2020 03:51 |
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:Hot take: it may have sucked overall but when it was at its best, Tri was better than the majority of 02 I don't disagree. The best part of Tri is better than most of 02 and honestly genuinely really good, the issue is that the rest of Tri is aggresively terrible and the good parts are not enough to make up for it.
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Funky Valentine posted:I appreciate the second half of 02 for being shameless about ripping off Jessie and James. Jessie, James, and Meowth are a shameless rip off of the Doronbo Gang from Time Bokan. It's really more that that particular character archetype became common long before Mummymon and Archnemon ever showed up.
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