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RatHat posted:...How else would you say it? ...Jeh-NO-vah?
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Mar 8, 2020 09:20
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cock hero flux posted:jenova weird period in your 30s where you're too old to act like you're in your 20s but you're also not in a place in your career or personal life where you can take on a middle-aged lifestyle, and you still feel like you're immature and out of your depth despite basically having everything under control Yeah, hey, this string of words is real uncomfortable to read, could you please delete it? Thanks. I definitely get along with my co-workers who are like 13 years younger than me than I do the ones that are even 5 years older, it's bizarre. Especially considering that I got along far better with adults than my peers when I was a child. Anyway for content there should definitely be a Jenova Undeath that you can kill by throwing a Phoenix Down at it.
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Mar 8, 2020 09:22
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precision posted:...Jeh-NO-vah? Oh I thought you were saying that middle part would be different.
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Mar 8, 2020 09:38
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Jeh-go-to-the-polls-va
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Mar 8, 2020 09:39
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BARRET: the planets dyin lol CLOUD: yea. lmao. TIFA: i'm voting for Bernie CLOUD: same BARRET: @$!# same YUFFIE: same ^_^ AERIS: you're like 12
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Mar 8, 2020 09:48
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Jehno-vah, with the same cadence as Jennifer.
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Mar 8, 2020 10:12
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cock hero flux posted:jenova weird period in your 30s where you're too old to act like you're in your 20s but you're also not in a place in your career or personal life where you can take on a middle-aged lifestyle, and you still feel like you're immature and out of your depth despite basically having everything under control
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Mar 8, 2020 10:29
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I always figured it was based on the word Jehovah and would be pronounced similar to that. Made sense to me given Jehovah was the Latinization of the Hebrew word for God. I don't recall reading anything about FF7 that ever mentioned that with regard to Jenova though. It's not as if there isn't a JRPG trope about killing god(s) but maybe there's more to it? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/jehovah
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Mar 8, 2020 10:46
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There's no way Jenova wasn't meant to be a reference to Jehovah, considering Sephiroth is similar to Seraphim and has a song literally called "One Winged Angel"
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Mar 8, 2020 10:48
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HOLY poo poo I JUST NOW REALIZED Nibelheim = Nephalim
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Mar 8, 2020 10:51
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precision posted:There's no way Jenova wasn't meant to be a reference to Jehovah, considering Sephiroth is similar to Seraphim and has a song literally called "One Winged Angel" Yeah this was basically my thinking but I only know most biblical references third hand. I know other FF's have used biblical names, often with different spellings though not always. I did always wonder whether the names were intentionally changed or if it was just a kind of best fit for the Japanese language that got re translated as something different, as it's not always consistent. Edit replying to above See Nibelheim I figured was actually a Norse reference, the Nine Realms are named Niflheim, Muspelheim, Asgard, Midgard, Jotunheim, Vanaheim, Alfheim, Svartalfheim, Helheim. Midgar was Midgard minus a letter and Nibelheim is Niflheim with an altered second syllable. Slow edit- efb AnarkiJ fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 10:54
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precision posted:HOLY poo poo I JUST NOW REALIZED Wouldnt Niflheim make more sense since Midgar is derived Midgard and Midgar Zolom is just Midgardsorm. I'm sure there are more Norse mythology references
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Mar 8, 2020 10:58
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Cloud uses Lightning and comes from Nibelheim. Mt. Nibel has a lot of clouds and mist. Tifa has a bunch of norse runes in her gloves in the remake. That's about it for that city's name. And yeah Nibelheim has nothing to do with Judaism/Christianity, it's just the same as Midgar and the Midgar Zolom.
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Mar 8, 2020 10:59
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On the second playthrough of the demo, I noticed that I'm like 690% better at the game, but I really suck at using Guard still.
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Mar 8, 2020 10:59
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precision posted:There's no way Jenova wasn't meant to be a reference to Jehovah, considering Sephiroth is similar to Seraphim and has a song literally called "One Winged Angel" Sephiroth is from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot
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WaltherFeng posted:Wouldnt Niflheim make more sense since Midgar is derived Midgard and Midgar Zolom is just Midgardsorm. Yeah I guess But Sephiroth had to be a reference to Seraphim imo
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Zero VGS posted:Sephiroth is from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot Whoa I was just about to post about how the Lifestream/Jenovah/Sephiroth relationship is extremely similar to Gnostic and Kabbalist notions of God/Sophia/Samael
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Mar 8, 2020 11:16
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precision posted:Whoa Sephiroth makes multiple references about how he wants to be a God, and through the merging of all souls through him, he will achieve Godhood. The notion of Devekut, the closeness to God, is interpreted by Hasidism as a form of Monism, and in this the Qliphoth is the path to individualism, which is also why the Qliphoth is so used in occultist philosophies where the only thing that matters is the self (so everything post-Thelema started to take from this as well). In contrast, the 22 paths to God through the Sefirot are interpreted as not taking you closer to God metaphorically, but literally, and thus in the end all souls become one under a single God. The interpretation of the Sephirot as a monistic ascension is all over the place in late 90's Japanese media. See: Neon-Genesis Evangelion, where that is also the plot (the Sephirotic System literally pops up floating in the sky before all souls in the planet merge and become one big pool, like uh the lifestream). Sephiroth's plan is exactly that, have all souls merge through him. Elentor fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 11:26
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cock hero flux posted:jenova weird period in your 30s where you're too old to act like you're in your 20s but you're also not in a place in your career or personal life where you can take on a middle-aged lifestyle, and you still feel like you're immature and out of your depth despite basically having everything under control 
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Mar 8, 2020 11:28
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That song is ripping off Powerman 5000 so hard that it's kinda hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU edit: loving lol I posted that without looking at the comments where basically everyone said the same thing as me edit 2: good lord even the band complained about it, how did I miss all this drama when it first unfolded?: https://kotaku.com/band-says-new-final-fantasy-xiv-boss-battle-music-is-ri-1761120297 Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 11:47
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Zero VGS posted:That song is ripping off Powerman 5000 so hard that it's kinda hilarious: I think it really is just a coincidence. I think that Powerman 5000 was ripping off NIN and Marilyn Manson, and that there were a lot of j-rock bands who took inspiration from same, and ultimately it's just a fluke.
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Mar 8, 2020 12:04
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precision posted:BARRET: the planets dyin lol You reckon Reeve is a Buttigieg or Warren voter?
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Mar 8, 2020 15:14
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stev posted:I didn't notice while playing the demo but the remade boss theme is really weak. It doesn't have any of the punch of the original. This post is from a while back, but I'm replaying FF7 right now and Guard Scorpion doesn't even have boss music in the original. It's just the same music as the rest of the reactor playing during the fight. The cool boss theme first happens with Airbuster, like in the original.
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Mar 8, 2020 15:34
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A Sometimes Food posted:You reckon Reeve is a Buttigieg or Warren voter? He's a spy so he's naturally drawn to Buttigieg
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Mar 8, 2020 15:42
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A Sometimes Food posted:You reckon Reeve is a Buttigieg or Warren voter? Trick question, Reeve is Scottish
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Mar 8, 2020 15:45
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What about Vincent and Cid, the boomers of FFVII?
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Mar 8, 2020 15:51
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NikkolasKing posted:What about Vincent and Cid, the boomers of FFVII? Cid is just Joe Biden forgetting who he was again.
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Mar 8, 2020 15:56
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NikkolasKing posted:What about Vincent and Cid, the boomers of FFVII? Vincent doesn't vote. Cid was a trumpie until he met cloud, but he probably didn't vote either.
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NikkolasKing posted:What about Vincent and Cid, the boomers of FFVII? Cid definitely has a “Make Rocket Town Great Again” hat Vincent doesn’t vote, he just spends hours in his coffin posting online about the Stamp EU
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Mar 8, 2020 16:13
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Playing with the New Threat mod, which includes changes to the script...they attempted to fix "This guy are sick" but instead made it "These guy is sick" lmao
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Mar 8, 2020 16:57
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GoGoGadget posted:Playing with the New Threat mod, which includes changes to the script...they attempted to fix "This guy are sick" but instead made it "These guy is sick" lmao I kind of hope the remake goes to great lengths to make that line verbatim, but also make sense. "There's been a few guys like this turning up recently. Nobody really knows what's wrong with them. None of the slum doctors can come up with a diagnosis. All we can say is that all of them, like this guy, are sick."
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Mar 8, 2020 17:49
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I kind of hope the remake goes to great lengths to make that line verbatim, but also make sense. 
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Mar 8, 2020 17:50
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I kind of hope the remake goes to great lengths to make that line verbatim, but also make sense. I'm hoping for this too. I feel like it's a shameful waste if they don't.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:05
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GoGoGadget posted:Playing with the New Threat mod, which includes changes to the script...they attempted to fix "This guy are sick" but instead made it "These guy is sick" lmao issa joke
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Mar 8, 2020 18:06
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I feel like it might not be possible though because that meme comes from a translation error that only the west would get. Then again I'm sure there are Japan-only memes they probably tried to work in too.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:12
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Elephant Ambush posted:I feel like it might not be possible though because that meme comes from a translation error that only the west would get. that's why the localization team would do it
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Mar 8, 2020 18:15
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IIRC they translated the famous “I wanna be a blitzball” error back into Japanese for the X remaster.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:that's why the localization team would do it Right but wouldn't it have to match up with the Japanese dialogue in some way? You'd have to have a cutscene that gets the same ideas across but in Japan it's normal dialogue and in English it's different for the meme. It would probably make more sense to do it outside of a cutscene, like in the background banter while walking around.
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