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MegaZeroX posted:Wait, there is another thread in ADTRW again? Yes, mostly so there wouldn't be a lot of hand-wringing from Games posters that hate anime. Feel free to post in here though 
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lmao which non anime vns do you think are getting discussed in the games thread
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Mar 9, 2020 05:05
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I worry by the time Ciconia chapter 2 comes out i will have forgotten most of my theories
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Mar 9, 2020 05:12
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forum fight forum fight From all the same posters
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Snooze Cruise posted:I worry by the time Ciconia chapter 2 comes out i will have forgotten most of my theories I worry by the time Ciconia chapter 2 comes out that I still won't have finished Umineko 
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MegaZeroX posted:I worry by the time Ciconia chapter 2 comes out that I still won't have finished Umineko Just lol if you don't read Umineko in a fugue state over two and a half weeks
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Snooze Cruise posted:Just lol if you don't read Umineko in a fugue state over two and a half weeks i did that with higurashi just a few months before so i ran out of fugue state energy
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The Colonel posted:i did that with higurashi just a few months before so i ran out of fugue state energy rip oh yeah, i was suppose to be reading higurashi but when my hard drive died i forgot i started it again moving between drives and I already started something else rip
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So apart from Phoenix Wright the only visual novels I've played have been otome games: Hakuoki Kyoto Winds, Amnesia Memories, Bad Apple Wars, the first Code Realize, and Nightshade. I enjoy them on their own but I also love them for what they say about gender roles, society, etc.. Why are some types of boys more represented than others? Do girls want them more or do the devs think girls want them more? Why is outright sex so much less common than in VN's for boys? And so many other questions. I wanna see the other side of the equation, though. I wanna play a VN about dating girls and made for boys. I think they're called bishojo games? I have one I was already recommended called Princess Evangile but I was hoping to get some other suggestions. There are clear types you can find in otome games so there must be common types you can find in most VN's for boys. Is anyone here old like and remembers Totally Spies and specifically boy-crazy Clover? Or maybe you watch My Hero Academia where Camie was introduced a few eps back? I like that ditzy fun-loving type of female character and I would assume they'er in a lot of VN's but I have no idea.
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Mar 9, 2020 10:16
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yeah, the kinda dumb but upbeat female character is pretty common. they're usually the 'normal childhood friend' type. you could do the wanko route of majikoi? she's not really got the 'boy crazy' aspect but she's definitely got the dumb and energetic/upbeat angles. majikoi's mostly a goofy comedy with some martial arts stuff, some of the jokes don't land but it's pretty funny and the protag's actually pretty likable. And I like that he has male friends who actually matter to him and he talks to oftenly enough, instead of one guy or no friends at all. love, election, and chocolate is also pretty archetypal but mostly enjoyable.
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Mar 9, 2020 10:42
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This thread is good because I can finally ask the important question: Little Busters group vs Majikoi group Who is better? Discuss.
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Mar 9, 2020 13:14
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Majikoi group has the Kawakami sisters so it's them by default even before getting into the rest who are pretty good, though Masato in LB is the superior muscle idiot character.
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Trying to figure out societal commentary through VNs is really head-breaking because there's so many levels of guessing what people want involved, especially when it comes to games originally released in Japan and then licensed (or not) for English audiences. And some stuff gets rewritten between versions because of what they think the different markets will accept, and sometimes those decisions are quite baffling and don't seem to have much to do with the real markets, and so on. Otome games with sex in them exist in Japan, but have any been licensed? And if not, why not? Is it solely because MG's licensing survey suggests that their established audience isn't up for it? How much does the feedback loop of phone games being seen as more-girly and PC games as less-girly, with the associated restrictions that afaik you can't do porn in phone games, affect the level of demand for 18+ content in otome games? Why has no one, afaik, been able to get the BL game market to thrive in the west? And so on.
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gegi posted:Trying to figure out societal commentary through VNs is really head-breaking because there's so many levels of guessing what people want involved, especially when it comes to games originally released in Japan and then licensed (or not) for English audiences. And some stuff gets rewritten between versions because of what they think the different markets will accept, and sometimes those decisions are quite baffling and don't seem to have much to do with the real markets, and so on. True. I don't expect to come away with any grand answers, it's just a fun little intellectual game. I'm a dude and otome games are made for girls but of course I'm sure other guys play them. Nevertheless they're marketed for girls and I think it's mostly girls at r/otomegames and I've seen them argue over what cliches they hate about the standard otome game. A lot of them for instance dislike how chaste most are while I'm actually quite content with everything just being simple and mushy. I don't want sex in my feel good game. I remember when I played Amnesia (my second otome after Hakuoki) I greatly enjoyed Sawa and Mine being there as now my MC had actual friends and equals. It was cute and heartwarming. But some girls on Reddit criticized this depiction of girlfriendship as vastly outdated which is obviously something I wouldn't know. And so-on and so-on. I also ponder why exactly I want different things in my husbando vs. my waifu. I don't want a ditzy husbando for instance. However I detested Shin in Amnesi for being mean and I could not even contemplate dating Kazama from Hakuoki beause he kept trying to kidnap and rape me. These are not disqualifying qualities in a girl, though. I would find a terse and villainous women interesting and exciting. It's all very fun to think about once I'm done feeling good and just want to reflect back on what it all means. Endorph posted:yeah, the kinda dumb but upbeat female character is pretty common. they're usually the 'normal childhood friend' type. you could do the wanko route of majikoi? she's not really got the 'boy crazy' aspect but she's definitely got the dumb and energetic/upbeat angles. majikoi's mostly a goofy comedy with some martial arts stuff, some of the jokes don't land but it's pretty funny and the protag's actually pretty likable. And I like that he has male friends who actually matter to him and he talks to oftenly enough, instead of one guy or no friends at all. love, election, and chocolate is also pretty archetypal but mostly enjoyable. Thanks for the suggestions. I shall look into these. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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gegi posted:Otome games with sex in them exist in Japan, but have any been licensed? And if not, why not? Is it solely because MG's licensing survey suggests that their established audience isn't up for it? A few have. Off the top of my head, there's Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome, and apparently Kalmia8's next couple of games are in the pipeline for localization as well.
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the fashioning little miss lonesome op gets stuck in my head surprisingly often
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gegi posted:Otome games with sex in them exist in Japan, but have any been licensed? And if not, why not? Is it solely because MG's licensing survey suggests that their established audience isn't up for it? MG has localized them before and they offer an annual survey. Man, every time I see how someone brings up R18 otome I rmb all the terrible reviews/summaries I read and drat, maybe the companies are trying to protect players  Imagine the worst plot and MC suffering and there you have it. I mean, even in Japan they are a super small market and when they do get ported they make it all-ages. I don't see mobage are more "girly" since there's an ocean of waifu gacha games that have 3x male heroes each. Honestly, I feel like most ppl play them since due to the free time during commutes and I'm tired. JAST BLUE localizes N+C BL games for the overseas market so far they have done 2x games.
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finished episode 6 of umineko and the ep6 tea party scenes the ride never ends
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The Colonel posted:finished episode 6 of umineko and the ep6 tea party scenes Episode 7 is great, possibly my favorite episode. Some good new music in it too. Did you understand anything after finishing Episode 6?
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I'm not sure how I feel about Raging Loop, sans the Extra stuff and Revelations of course. From the beginning it was a VN with a fairly unusual structure, pacing, tone, and dialogue, and that persisted from the beginning all the way to the ending. Frequently it made for a refreshing different sort of take on that sort of VN story but I also just as frequently felt I'd step away from it, digest it further, and find that it wasn't quite coming together either. Part of it I think is the Feasts themselves; they are both the strength and weakness of the story. They're good in that they are compelling games of wit that keeps you on the edges of your seats, and often on the best routes they were what kept me coming back. On the other hand because of the structure of the game after a certain point a ton of routes have basically no major scenes happen outside of the feast, with character interactions being reduced to vague/cryptic scenes that may or may not pay off down the line but don't really do much in the way in developing the characters, and the Feasts themselves don't really give the characters a lot of room to breathe because of their nature So in the end the cast kind of felt...kind of shallow? That's a bit reductive and obviously not universally true (and I'm sure the Revelations/Extras will change this a bit), but I can't help but feel that most of the cast just came off ultimately as underutilized. The ending itself is just also kind of forced and convoluted for my tastes (some real Processor Layton Twist energy), with a lot of what I would perceive as sophistry used to bullshit its way through it. Some of which was certainly satisfying for the characters involved but a lot of it was more "well I guess that's how that's going to go, huh".
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on ep 7 of umineko and i've really enjoyed it overall but uh man i'm really starting to get why this is viewed as one of the best vns ever, drat i think between this and higu ryukishi is one of my favorite writers ever lol
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Mar 21, 2020 02:52
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Higurashi is getting an actually good anime now! There is now a trailer
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https://itch.io/s/29062/stayathomevnsale 1 day to grab five highly acclaimed Fruitbat Factory localized VNs for free
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Tonfa posted:https://itch.io/s/29062/stayathomevnsale Just downloaded them all and started Magical Eyes. I'm amused by the even-the-prologue-has-a-prologue plot structure at the beginning (which Fate/Stay Night, for example, is also guilty of), and by the unnecessary glossary entries for things like "pancake" (which I assume is an intentional running gag). So it seems that our main character fights ghosts called Variants that possess people and give them superpowers. Oddly enough, the narrative carefully avoids specifying what people with the powers the main character uses to fight Variants are called. Also, apparently there's going to be some kind of interactive/mystery element. So far, I'm interested.
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Tonfa posted:https://itch.io/s/29062/stayathomevnsale good looking out, been looking for seabed for a while
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I've played some more Magical Eyes, and am now on 4/29. Chiharu seems unhealthily obsessed with Yuu. I suspect she's going to turn into a Variant.
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i finished umineko i think i liked it about as much as higurashi in a very different way
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The Colonel posted:i finished umineko Now you can enjoy Ciconia When They Cry alongside everyone else waiting for future installments.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:33
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chloe... chloe!11 (note you are allowed to empty quote for support of chloe ciconia)
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Snooze Cruise posted:chloe... chloe!11 
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Snooze Cruise posted:chloe... chloe!11
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Are there any good romance games where you must choose between your LI and the world? This is an idea I find fascinating and you see it in various media in one form or another. The hero must choose between the love of his life or the world. By "the world" I don't just mean the literal world but more what it represents. What would you give up for the one person you love? Everything? Are there any VN's like this? Please no spoilers on exact details. I've seen this scenario in media where I couldn't actually control the story. I think it would be so much more meaningful in a romance game.
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NikkolasKing posted:Are there any good romance games where you must choose between your LI and the world? Fate/Stay Night, Rewrite, and probably a bunch of others. Edit: Though the theme comes up mainly in the third route of F/SN and the fifth route of Rewrite. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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The Colonel posted:on ep 7 of umineko and i've really enjoyed it overall but uh I will always and frequently unhesitatingly claim that Umineko is the best VN; it's arguably the media opinion I feel the most confident with just stating outright with no qualifiers (and telling other people they're wrong for thinking otherwise, lol). I would go as far as to say that it's the best media falling within the broad category of "nerd media" (encompassing stuff like video games, anime, fantasy/sci-fi novels, etc). Ryuukishi07 understands and empathizes with human beings far better than the vast majority of writers in this domain. A lot of stuff is kind of difficult to understand on first playthrough (but in the good way where once you do understand it things "click" and nothing feels awkward), and I like this blog for going through the first four episodes (and some of the 5th) and commenting on things and how they connect to the series' mysteries, etc - https://goatsreadingseacats.tumblr.com/ (no one go to this link if they don't want spoilers) When I first read it, I noticed a lot of things that I completely missed on my first play-through (or that I didn't understand when they were happening). I mention this because it's entirely possible to miss a lot of important stuff while still enjoying the VN.
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Ciconia made me cry 0/10
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There's a Key and Sekai Project sale going on right now. Any must-get games in it? I still have Umineko and Fata Morgana, so I'm personally pretty set for a while.
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Planetarian is one I always recommend to people who like Key but haven’t read it yet, just FYI though, it’s pretty short, like sub 15 hours.
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i mean nekopara and clannad are right there
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I somehow didn't even realize that Summer Pockets got a translated release. I don't think I know a single thing about it and have not heard anyone actually express a sentiment on it, positive or negative or otherwise.
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Stairmaster posted:i mean nekopara and clannad are right there Having the two in the same sentence hurts my soul
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