Origami Dali posted:You like part 3 the most? You might be the only person in history to have that opinion. Most people have it close to the bottom of their lists. Whenever I watch films I really try to just allow the film to guide me through, and just try to leave any critical judgement aside. I only really turn against films while watching them when they feel insincere to me, and Part 3 felt very sincere. It was like an adorable puppy that was trying to bark and yelp like one of the big dogs, and it absolutely won my heart with it's dumb 3D, dumb comic relief, and adorable maskless Jason. And as for the snake: gently caress the filmmakers. I'm not watching out of spite
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Jason's definitely a villain. He repeatedly hunts down and stalks innocents to try and murder them. I just don't see how he's "well rounded." Again, I'd argue that Freddy is actually much more fleshed out character. That's not really a good thing. Its not really good when the movies go into Freddy loving his daughter. But I'd argue that Freddy is much more of a character if only in the way he genuinely gets to know and becomes angry towards characters. Jason, as said, just flow back and forth between "you're in my way so you die" and "YOU'RE REALLY IN MY WAY SO DIE!" Like I said, I get why people like the Jason movies more. Jason is what he is and people just want to have fun with that, and the movies mostly just try and do that. Every Nightmare film has a plot and some twists that make varying levels of sense but are critical to the films and affect how you feel about them in the end. That makes it easier to just sit back and enjoy Jason (assuming you enjoy Jason) where you gotta kinda actually judge Freddy's movies. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:Anyone remember that v/h/s short horror movie compilation? i really liked the one where they go into the cultist camp and they summon the devil at the end. i also loved hereditary as well. any more movies like that? I didn't see anyone answer this but you want VHS and VHS 2
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pospysyl posted:More than that, he was the first person to ever play the role when the play debuted in Chicago. I saw the play off-broadway with my parents maybe 20 years ago, we just kind of picked it at random. it was probably not a great show to bring your folks to... I haven't seen the film but in the play the actors were fully naked for the entire second act and it was a very small theater. awkward, especially when you're 19. it was really good though!
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Basebf555 posted:The UHD format has finally justified it's existence: While looking for a place to pre-order this I stumbled upon this set https://smile.amazon.com/European-Theatrical-Extended-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B01LTHL0IS/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=zombi+4k&qid=1583709038&sr=8-2 We need nice things like this in America please. I still have my original DVD set and the blu-ray, but I need to see all 5 cuts in 4K. Especially that full-frame cut.
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hey they put machetezombie on the back cover!
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Supposedly a Dawn release is coming from Second Sight.
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Origami Dali posted:Supposedly a Dawn release is coming from Second Sight. Yep, looks like its humming along. Missed the Feb. window in the article, but that's fine. I can be patient... https://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3579798/second-sight-updates-upcoming-4k-ultra-hd-release-dawn-dead-likely-coming-early-2020/
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I always kinda thought Jason was sort of Lovecraftian in his own way. He warps reality in a small area (batshit crazy physics defying kills), and just randomly kills people that blunder into his zone. He doesn't go out to do anything (other than the Manhattan trip), just starts at home in his lake and chills, and pops up to murder people when they pass a boundary he's set. Even in X he was just at his home and they abducted him. Then he got mad. He's basically just inhuman. I'd argue not evil, just honestly does not give half a gently caress. I don't think he takes pleasure in the usual "freaky get off this way" kinda psycho way a lot of villains have, I think he just really likes his quiet. At least in the later movies.
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Jason is just a wonderful baby boy
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CelticPredator posted:Jason is just a wonderful baby boy
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Michael Myers would curb stomp both of those dimestore childsplay chumps even on his worst day.
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Myers is but a man.
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Don't know why I slept on Mom and Dad for so long. This movie is awesome.
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Michael is the Boogyman. The fear of what's lurking in the shadows and the dark. Freddy is the Nightmare. The every day fears and anxieties that plague you and toil away in your mind. Jason is the Apex Predator. The fear of all the unknown out there that could kill you just because. Chucky is Madness. The fear that the world will just go completely insane and you'll die having no idea what the gently caress.
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Leatherface is the Regression. Pinhead is the Too Much Horny.
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I guess I'd say Pinhead is the Limits. The fear that the thing you desire or crave that you know is wrong will destroy you. Leatherface is Leaving Home. The fear that the second you leave that safe space the world will chew you up.
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I think the reason Jason seems less awful via comparison to other slashers is because he comes off as very animal like. Unlike someone like Freddy or Chucky he doesn't make jokes while killing, and unlike fellow silent killer Michael Myers he doesn't choose his victims randomly. He has a very specific territory that he sticks to and as long as you stay away from that area he'll leave you alone. Wanna not get eaten by a shark? Keep out of the ocean. Wanna not get mauled by a polar bear? Keep away from the North Pole. Wanna not get stabbed by Jason? Never ever go to Camp Crystal Lake. On some level, either conscious or subconscious, people recognize that he's a more avoidable danger than most other horror movie monsters as long as you do one simple thing (but if you don't do that thing you're hosed as heck).
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I think the reason Jason seems less awful via comparison to other slashers is because he comes off as very animal like. Unlike someone like Freddy or Chucky he doesn't make jokes while killing, and unlike fellow silent killer Michael Myers he doesn't choose his victims randomly. He has a very specific territory that he sticks to and as long as you stay away from that area he'll leave you alone. Wanna not get eaten by a shark? Keep out of the ocean. Wanna not get mauled by a polar bear? Keep away from the North Pole. Wanna not get stabbed by Jason? Never ever go to Camp Crystal Lake. On some level, either conscious or subconscious, people recognize that he's a more avoidable danger than most other horror movie monsters as long as you do one simple thing (but if you don't do that thing you're hosed as heck). That's a reason Jason was such a thing where I lived. They filmed part 7 close so the older kids would tells stories about Jason being real and the adults would confirm the movie got filmed here. So a child's mind fills in the blanks.
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TheKingslayer posted:That's a reason Jason was such a thing where I lived. They filmed part 7 close so the older kids would tells stories about Jason being real and the adults would confirm the movie got filmed here. So a child's mind fills in the blanks. Oh yeah, right on Jason's home terf is the best possible place to get spooked by Friday the 13th movie. Also, I just watched Orphan for the first time, and I gotta get something off my chest: The parents in that movie should NOT have been adopting in the first place. The kid being evil is irrelevant to the fact that neither of them were emotionally or psychologically stable enough to take on the responsibility of a child. The mom is still struggling with the grief of her miscarriage and her former addiction to alcohol, the dad still resents her for her past actions and has previously had an affair that neither of them seem to be over, and on top of that they already have two other kids that they're not giving enough attention to! They really needed to sort their own poo poo out instead of trying to fill the emotional void in their lives with another human being.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I think the reason Jason seems less awful via comparison to other slashers is because he comes off as very animal like. Unlike someone like Freddy or Chucky he doesn't make jokes while killing, and unlike fellow silent killer Michael Myers he doesn't choose his victims randomly. Michael Myers doesn't pick his victims randomly either. You just don't ever know why he picks them.
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Aww, Max Von Sydow has died.
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I recently watched all the Halloween movies (well, pre-Rob Zombie anyone)... and I dont enjoy Michael Myers as much as Jason or Freddy (or even Pinhead). I have a high level of "sense of disbelief", but watching Michael Myers trying to run over people in Halloween 5 was just so... well, it was kinda stupid, and way out of what made the character scady. I do really enjoy him in the Zombie films though. He had a real savagery that was quite intimidating. Not as bad as Rambo in that last movie Last Blood. Yikes, did they have any understanding of that character (simple as he is)...
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The_Doctor posted:Aww, Max Von Sydow has died. No! It's been 40 years and I'm still waiting for my Flash Gordon sequel!
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It's kind of a shame that Pinhead became the emblematic villain of the Hellraiser series, because I found Uncle Frank and Julia to be the more interesting. Pinhead generally goes where he's invited, goes about things in a workmanlike way, probably files his taxes on time. He really isn't as cool, sexy, and transgressive as Frank and Julia. Plus Claire Higgins' performance is wonderful, she's so cunning and duplicitous it sends chills up my spine
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what lol
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Cool sexy and transgressive is like the dictionary definition of a cenobite.
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# ? Mar 9, 2020 14:35 |
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Pinhead would describe himself as a "sex nerd" on tinder.
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# ? Mar 9, 2020 14:36 |
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i was gonna say how is the BDSM chain demon from hell not transgressive enough i swear the line between trolling and genuine poserism wears thinner everyday
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COOL CORN posted:Cool sexy and transgressive is like the dictionary definition of a cenobite. What about the cenobites who get used as books, and are basically skinned once they run out of space to tattoo on? They definitely get dunked on at Cenobite school
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I agree about Hellraiser. More effort should've gone to keeping Higgins as the lynch pin of the franchise, she was every bit as important in the first two films as Pinhead. I get what DDD(this is your horror thread nickname that I just came up with) is saying, because Claire and Frank have a sexy and transgressive quality that is very human, whereas Pinhead is past all that. He's very businesslike in that way, he probably looks at someone like Frank and considers him to be an undisciplined boob. And that's interesting and scary and Bradley is fantastic, but I think having Julia in the picture to represent the other side of the coin would've been a good thing for the series and kept it more on track. Once Pinhead became the main focus everything fell apart because he's a fairly limited character due to how inhuman he is.
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Can you just follow me around forever and act as my translator?
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I agree with what you're saying, Basebf555 and DDD, for the movies. The book Cenobites were way more cool and transgressive and, I dunno, horrific. The book really hammered home the idea that they were there to give you pleasure beyond your wildest dreams, it's just that that pleasure is indistinguishable from pain. They're actually angels I don't know what my point was for this post, I just always had a strange fascination with that aspect of the book growing up, and they really downplayed it to Pinhead and his merry band of torture demons for the movies.
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I'm a real life gore whore and my horror cred is legit. However, I don't think I've seen a single Friday the 13th film. Not one. There is just no need for me.
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:my horror cred is legit. this is an oxymoron you poser
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Some Mike Myers wannabe puts on a hokey mask and starts killing virgins backdropped by questionable production values. Big whop.
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Vincent Price stars as Kvlt! in Poserfinder General!
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:It's kind of a shame that Pinhead became the emblematic villain of the Hellraiser series, because I found Uncle Frank and Julia to be the more interesting. Pinhead generally goes where he's invited, goes about things in a workmanlike way, probably files his taxes on time. He really isn't as cool, sexy, and transgressive as Frank and Julia. Plus Claire Higgins' performance is wonderful, she's so cunning and duplicitous it sends chills up my spine Hellraiser is totally Frank and Julia's story. Pinhead is just easier to market as catchphrases, action figures and Halloween masks.
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The final indignity that Pinhead suffered was the worst twist of the knife given that Clive Barker revisited the mythology in The Scarlet Gospels. There was pretty serious conversation that the book was ghostwritten to a degree. The Barker movie that should be made is The Damnation Game.
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:Some Mike Myers wannabe puts on a hokey mask and starts killing virgins backdropped by questionable production values. Uh, they're not virgins
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